I ATTENDED A BOOTCAMP RECENTLY WITH THESE LOSERS CALLED ROCK SOLID GAME... I CAN'T THINK OF ONE POSITIVE THING ABOUT THESE GUYS. I THINK THEY USE PUA TRAINING AS A WAY OF SIMPLY GETTING FREE DRINKS ON A NIGHT OUT WHETHER ITS FROM THE CLIENTS OR THE GIRLS.

THEY WERE SO UNORGANISED, THE GUY TURNED UP LATE, ABOUT 45 MINUTES LATE, THEN WE WERE SUPPOSED TO DO THE CLASS IN STARBUCKS WHERE, BEING A SATURDAY ON OXFORD STREET THERE WERE NO TABLES - OBVIOUSLY, ANOTHER 30 MINUTES WASTED.

THEY TURNED UP WITH A LAPTOP OUT OF 1970, A POXY POWER POINT PRESENTATION (MY NIECE COULD HAVE DONE BETTER) AND SHOWED PICTURES OF CELEBRITIES LOOKING 'RUGGED'... AND EXPECTED US TO STAND IN FRONT OF A MIRROR AND DO BREATHING EXERCISES IN THE MIDDLE OF STARBUCKS. I MEAN SERIOUSLY... HAVE THEY EVEN READ ANY MATERIAL!???

THEY TEACH YOU TO ESSENTIALLY LIE TO GIRLS, F*CK IT RIGHT, AS LONG AS YOU GET THEM INTO BED IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU CAN'T GET EM TO STAY... THAT'S NOT THE GAME INTENTION. WHERE IS THEIR INNER GAME? ITS CLEAR THEY DON'T HAVE ANY APPROACH ANXIETY BUT ANYONE CAN LEARN THAT IF YOU GET BLOWN OUT ENOUGH... 1000 SETS!

THERE WAS AN OFFER TO GO TO SOME HOUSE UP IN NORTH LONDON AND IT WAS AN OLD PEOPLE'S HOME THAT FRANKLY SMELLED OF P*SS.

SAVE YOUR MONEY GUYS... GO WITH ANOTHER COMPANY. THESE GUYS ARENT THE REAL DEAL.

As much as it sucks for you,

it's partially your own fault.

Next time, don't be a tool and check out the instructors first. Tell them you're interested in their bootcamp but aren't fully convinced about their own ability. Set up a meeting to check them out in field and in return promise to write them a review (and do so if you choose to take their bootcamp). Also mentioning that you'll recommend them to your friends will help.

Also, if you know a lair, they'll often host meetings where coaches will attend aswell. (atleast they do at mine)

Introduce yourself and start talking, again tell them you're interested and yada yada.

I hear more and more stories like this.

cheers for the heads up, i been looking for a good bootcamp/workshop in london and essex area and as much as you had to have a ruff time with these "cowboys" at least they won't get much more money from us on here.

Quick question: anyone know of a good london/essex based PUA training camp or workshop?

okay so you vented your anger.. congrats man :p

Thanks for that Gambler/AFC Adam...

how obvious is your angle VE MUST CRUSH THE COMPETITION!!

well I have NO affiliation with RSG but I have done a bootcamp (when the price was cheaper than now TBF) and it was good..infield wasn't amazing but it was good value and I can tell you from FIELD experience that they have one of the best daygamers in London working for them...guys don't believe the hype just ask the right questions...

I'll start it off:

How come AFC Adam or Gambler have no quality girls in the small amount of infields they have?

How come http://krauserpua.com/ Krauser from RSG does? and he provides proof that he's fucked them...gambler and afc don't?

mmmmm I wonder???[/url]

Come on guys "A picture is worth a thousand words" and a video a million...

I took a bootcamp with RSG. They weren't bad. Forced me to approach and dhad no problems demoing me. That was months ago. Maybe not the most organised group. But if you ask specifically what you want, they will accommodate you. Also, if you are not from London, they will get you a free room to sleep in their place.

Thebest teachers in London are for daygame: Sasha or Snakeskin
club game: Moran (from RSG)
Destroying limiting beliefs (day and night game): DTFkuhyene
Magic based pickup: Raj Dviri

Just join the LSS (london seduction society) which is the local lair and look in the commercial section

how is it his won fault?

Showing up late to work, your fired asshole! I want my money back!

You've got to be fucking kidding me.

"Thanks for that Gambler/AFC Adam..."

No. It would be very easy to put up 10 positive reviews of our events on here and a bad review or two of all the other companies. Would also be very easy to delete your post. The fact that we don't do that means that we think integrity is important.

That is ridiculous and you shouldn't make statements without full knowledge. After 5 years of working in London in the PUA industry, I know who is good and who isn't.

The best day gamer is Yad, he doesn't train for PUAT so I get no benefit from saying that, it's just an undeniable fact.
The best club gamer needs to be able to get into the best clubs, otherwise he is just picking up ugly girls in shitty places...like most "puas" in london, the guys I NEVER see in the good clubs because they don't have the social skills to get access. If you are on that other forum, then you might have seen Steve Jabba. There is no way this dude is anywhere close to Steve.
I don't know the inner game guy but based on your other top picks I wouldn't bet on him either.

Going to have to disagree Gambler. I have trained with a fair few of the PUA's and can say hands down that Sasha is the best. He is so far ahead when it comes to the teaching side of things THAT is ridiculous.

Where is all this infield footage of Yad that everyone talks about? And yes I have trained with Yad and I was honestly not impressed with his teaching. You are entitled to your opinion as am I. But to just say an "undeniable fact" is absurd.

Well guys can decide who they'd rather listen to. Or they can wait a couple of months and watch Yad's infield footage.

Well hasn't Yad's "infield footage" been in the pipeline for ages? Any release date yet? Also personally I would prefer to watch something like what Sasha does where you see a day of approaches. It is more realistic and shows both the good and bad interactions rather than just a collection of the best ones over a period of time.

The fact is that no gurus have any infield footage of daygame. I might be wrong and if there is some of you Gambler I apologise. Pretty sure there are other people that would be interested in seeing that too.

Yad gets laid more than any other daygame PUA. Most of them just get numbers.