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A Sticking Point or SP is an issue you CONSISTENTLY run into.

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I keep getting LMR whenever I bring girls back to my place. This has happened at least 10 times already! What am I doing wrong?
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I got LMR with this one girl! What do I do?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:20 pm 
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a little about myself, I'm average looking guy i think. i have had girlfriends before, hb 6,7 and 8. Where friends would say wow she is with you? I'm a very comical guy, and I'm learning to be a bit more outgoing. i make friends quickly pretty social.

I have been having a problem lately, i used to fall in the friend zone a lot before, now I'm having another problem. Ever since i learned to kino i have been getting farther with women then before.

Now the problem is i usually end up making out with chicks, and sometimes i actually get to f close a very few. But even after all that, they all back track and try to make me a friend after all that we done. As crazy as it sounds this is what has happened to me the past few times. With almost ever girl i have k close. i must admit i move pretty fast making out with girl the first day we met in person, or the second day if i met them places i go out to have fun.

Some girls i met online, some i met when i go out and have fun. not to much of a clubbing person.


Any ideas as to what is going on here?
for the girls i met in person they not as pretty as the ones i met online. So i don't mind when they flake on me, wasn't really interested to begin with
Although i do care about the ones i met online because i see there interest from the start and they are usually pretty hot. so im very interested in them . Sometimes i think my pictures on my profile make me look better then i really am, and sometimes i think when they are with me. on the first date to not make it awkward they go with the flow and let me have my way with them. but then after the first date i don't hear from them again.


one more thing I'm actually looking for LTR... I dont really like just hooking up.


any help i would gladly take.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:51 pm 
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First of all, it sounds like you have a lot of game, and are doing all the right things. Escalating quickly is what you want to be doing.

Let me reframe what you are saying:
We all have our share of women that flake on us, even when we have sex with them. Perhaps you are just experiencing a greater percentage of them now, but if you continue to hook up with enough women, one of them will want a relationship with you.

I also sense that although you have no problem hooking up with women, perhaps you feel little bit of the neediness when it comes to wanting a long-term relationship. I'm not sure if this is true or not, but a lot of guys differentiate between "women and they want to just hook up with," and "women they want to have a relationship with." You have to treat all women equally.

If you are seeing a woman, and you start thinking that you want a relationship with her, question that thought immediately--it may be your emotions are your ego giving you bad advice.

At the same time, if you are hooking up with a woman, always look at her in a good light as well and think about what factors would make her a good girlfriend if for some reason you had a change of thought.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:18 pm 
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At what point point are you K-closing? Kissing diffuses sexual tension so it should really be avoided until you are about to have sex (i.e. you both are back at your house.. preferably close to a bed).

Also, if a girl sleeps with you and then tries to put you in the friend-zone. That's probably a pretty good sign that you either (1) need to work on your bedroom skills or (2) are acting in-congruent to the person they initially perceived you as.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 11:49 pm 
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to answer your question

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Usually i k-close when i see they give a physical sign of positive feed back. When they lean into me, when she lays her head on my shoulder, when she hugs me tightly, when i hold her hand, and she rubs her fingers though my fingers. this are the few which i usually use to to indicate i can go in for a kiss.

i a have post here in which you could critic what i did wrong, in this specific date. i give as much detail as i can of what happened during the date. same events as usual and same outcome as usual.

again any help would be greatly appreciated, i have been stumped with this. i can pm you the post if needed.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 11:58 pm 
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i see what you are saying, and you sense of me becoming a little needy is correct. Usually when i don't care much about the girl, they stick around a lot longer. i just honestly lose interest in them and don't pay them mind at all. Its the ones I'm actually interested in as a girlfriend, that i guess i become a little needy. They are the ones that usually, leave faster, the ones i really want to be in relationship with. I guess I'm having a hard time finding a balance and trying to keep my emotions in check with the ones i find as great candidates.


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Feel free to PM the post if you want me to critique the date. However, I'm going to go out on a limb and say you probably K-close too early in the evening. Again, wait until you are isolated and someplace where you can transition to serious foreplay.

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