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Author:  Jetisfly [ Fri May 05, 2017 11:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Please Helo "Friend Date"

Asked a girl on date. She said sure a friend date. Continue with it or give up hope

Author:  Arch Stanton [ Sat May 06, 2017 12:28 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Please Helo "Friend Date"

Ignore her and move on.

Author:  socialinception [ Wed May 10, 2017 12:57 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Please Helo "Friend Date"

If your game is on point, this shouldn't matter. The fact that you asked whether you should give up implies that your frame may not be strong enough to handle the internal pressure of trying to close a girl who already suggested you should just be friends.

But it's not going to hurt to try, just don't set up the date for a time in which you would otherwise be sarging.

Author:  puaninja [ Wed May 10, 2017 3:40 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Please Helo "Friend Date"

I look at a friend date as a challenge. But if you have anything better to do then do that first. Come back to the friend date girl after all else is said and done and you have some time and energy to waste on a long shot.

Author:  R.C [ Wed May 10, 2017 2:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Please Helo "Friend Date"

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I look at a friend date as a challenge.
You must have a lot of free time.

Author:  Eddie Fews [ Thu May 11, 2017 3:04 pm ]
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If your game is on point, this shouldn't matter. The fact that you asked whether you should give up implies that your frame may not be strong enough to handle the internal pressure of trying to close a girl who already suggested you should just be friends.

But it's not going to hurt to try, just don't set up the date for a time in which you would otherwise be sarging.
Agreed here.

Strongly on the fact that if any woman is saying this to you, you need a lot more work. You're clearly not approaching women, which is what this forum is all about. And that's why you've yet to develop the frame that doesn't get met with this level of resistance.

I'd so go out with the girl, but ONLY if you're going to push yourself to make a strong move early on. Like going for the kiss, grabbing her butt during the hello hug, or anything that implies your intentions. If she resist, which she probably will, just go home. The expirience will help train your for the women up ahead.

Now if you're going to go and do the whole "sit around talking like normal.. a while hoping she magically changes her mind" you're completely wasting your time, hers, and everyone who came here to write you.

Author:  Heywood Jablowme [ Thu May 11, 2017 4:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Please Helo "Friend Date"

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Asked a girl on date. She said sure a friend date. Continue with it or give up hope
You: "That means you treat."

Author:  bossom [ Thu May 11, 2017 5:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Please Helo "Friend Date"

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Asked a girl on date. She said sure a friend date. Continue with it or give up hope
I guess that your true question is if you are in the friendzone.
and Well it depends.....
If a girl tells you to meet as friends 1) It is good coz she already feels attracted to you, and knows your intentions, but telling herself that you're meeting as friends is a way to justify it to her shields 2) She thinks youre nice, but she is not attracted. And also she knows your intentions, by that reason she warns you. (Here you'd be getting into the friendzone)

To know which one is the true, we would need more information.
Does she pass through your tests/hoops?
Does she qualifies to you?
If she does, go and fuck her.
If she doesnt, you probably need to generate more value, combined with a bit of sexualization.
Thats my point. Good luck and keep improving:)
Greetings!

Author:  Arch Stanton [ Thu May 11, 2017 6:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Please Helo "Friend Date"

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If a girl tells you to meet as friends 1) It is good coz she already feels attracted to you, and knows your intentions, but telling herself that you're meeting as friends is a way to justify it to her shields 2) She thinks youre nice, but she is not attracted. And also she knows your intentions, by that reason she warns you. (Here you'd be getting into the friendzone)

To know which one is the true, we would need more information.
Does she pass through your tests/hoops?
Does she qualifies to you?
If she does, go and fuck her.
If she doesnt, you probably need to generate more value, combined with a bit of sexualization.
Thats my point. Good luck and keep improving:)
Greetings!

How a dominant male acts, who doesn't have alot of time to waste:


Her: We can go out, but only as friends.
You: Friends don't want to rip each other's clothes off.


Depending on how she responds to that, you either go out with her, or move on completely. No need to spend all day texting her to see if she goes "through hoops", and needy, novels of texting and other fucking nonsensical machinations.

Act like a dominant male and get to the point. The bull elk does not have time for this shit.

Author:  bossom [ Thu May 11, 2017 8:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Please Helo "Friend Date"

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If a girl tells you to meet as friends 1) It is good coz she already feels attracted to you, and knows your intentions, but telling herself that you're meeting as friends is a way to justify it to her shields 2) She thinks youre nice, but she is not attracted. And also she knows your intentions, by that reason she warns you. (Here you'd be getting into the friendzone)

To know which one is the true, we would need more information.
Does she pass through your tests/hoops?
Does she qualifies to you?
If she does, go and fuck her.
If she doesnt, you probably need to generate more value, combined with a bit of sexualization.
Thats my point. Good luck and keep improving:)
Greetings!

How a dominant male acts, who doesn't have alot of time to waste:


Her: We can go out, but only as friends.
You: Friends don't want to rip each other's clothes off.


Depending on how she responds to that, you either go out with her, or move on completely. No need to spend all day texting her to see if she goes "through hoops", and needy, novels of texting and other fucking nonsensical machinations.

Act like a dominant male and get to the point. The bull elk does not have time for this shit.

I totally agree. It is the best message I have ever seen.
I am sure that even if she does not have interest, that will awake it on her. She may even send a pic of her boobs.
Jokes apart, A hoop would look like the following:

Me: (if you know she dances quite good) Today I have seen a documentary about dancers. My intuition says that I should marry with one

She: I love dancing!. (That means she is appealed. She is appealed too if she starts to say how much she loves it, or how good she is at it etc..)

Anyway, I didnt dislike the message of Arch either.
If you have trusting/confidence enough with the girl, that would work to check her interest; if she laughs, (smthing like: hahaha sillyy) she's interested in most of the cases.

Author:  puaninja [ Fri May 12, 2017 1:40 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Please Helo "Friend Date"

Shits not always so black and white. I worked with this girl (we were waiters, not a real job), and she had a boyfriend. I wanted to hit really bad and she'd hang out with me, drink, go to bars with me, let me hold her and stuff. But she'd never let me kiss her or get sexual. She'd apparently done this with other guys too. She wanted the attention and people to hang out with, but wanted to feel like she was still loyal to her boyfriend.

It gets more complicated. Eventually I started dating this other waitress there who was bisexual. We planned on trying to seduce this chick in a threesome. We went out to a bar together one night. I almost had an AMOG steel her back to his place, but I sent him home with blue balls and convinced her to come back and continue drinking with me and my other girl. Everyone was drunk. We ended up doing this weird threesome thing but not really. I banged the other girl while I felt this one up, and they kissed and I got her tits out. I still never kissed her or hit it though, but I mean she was right there helping while I was having sex. It was hot, albeit kind of strange.

The point is that all started from the friendzone. If I nexted her once she friendzoned me then that jacked up threesome never would've happened. Wasn't the best, but at least I can still add it to my short list of threesomes.

Author:  Arch Stanton [ Fri May 12, 2017 1:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Please Helo "Friend Date"

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Shits not always so black and white. I worked with this girl (we were waiters, not a real job), and she had a boyfriend. I wanted to hit really bad and she'd hang out with me, drink, go to bars with me, let me hold her and stuff
This is a woman actively meeting up with you though, who you know digs you (and helped you have sex ultimately with another woman). this is not friend-zone, this is "I have to see you but I'm terrified of cheating on my bf zone".

Most guys are texting women who have friend-zoned (IE you're never touching me)them to meet up.

If I'm single, and a girl I'm really attracted to hits me up, I'm going to meet her and see what happens. But I won't put in effort to game her.

Author:  poeticlyskuac [ Fri May 12, 2017 2:19 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Please Helo "Friend Date"

Ugh....

I'm going to say along the lines of most guys. Don't go out with her... not because you can't arouse a girl out of a friendzone... but because YOU can't do it. Your frame isn't strong enough.

I've had friends and fucked them, and it's not that's not doable. It's that you are needy as fuck and she simply ain't into you because of that.

If a girl says "friend date" it's not a date, plain and simple and it's also a waste of your time overall.

I'd rather go drinking with a "friend" and just end up fucking her being her "drunken mistake" then have a friend date, your chances are better then.

Author:  DJ_Z [ Fri May 12, 2017 4:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Please Helo "Friend Date"

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If your game is on point, this shouldn't matter. The fact that you asked whether you should give up implies that your frame may not be strong enough to handle the internal pressure of trying to close a girl who already suggested you should just be friends.

But it's not going to hurt to try, just don't set up the date for a time in which you would otherwise be sarging.
That's a stupid point to say that merely asking means something is wrong. The entire point of the forum is to benefit from collective knowledge, not to shun asking for ideas or assistance.

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