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I text her that we should meet for coffee bw classes
Coffee dates between classes are no good.
How can you escalate on a coffee date between classes? What is stimulating or ambient about drinking coffee in a bright, corporate-lit environment at 2pm, next to grandpas and grandmas and screaming kids while you're in a time crunch?
This is bullshit game, and I don't know why guys continue to do it. You're cock-blocking yourself, lol.
If a girl is really into you, she'll let you get away with it. But when most sexually experienced and socially valuable women hear "coffee date", they think "he's a pussy" or "this guy isn't good with women".
Oh, there are guys who do coffee dates who are good with women INITIALLY. They talk a good game early on, chat a woman up, good communication over text. And then usually they are bad lovers. Why? Setting up coffee dates shows poor self-awareness to social reality. And this translates to poor self-awareness in bed. And if you suck in bed, you're not going to hook a sexually experienced, strong, independent woman who knows her value.
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We meet,... and I just don't know how to escalate the situation. We just spoke a bunch of fluff for like an hour and a half or something. I just, I feel like there is some very real attraction signs I'm getting, and that my failure on this day2 to escalate the situation and should I continue to do nothing, this window of oppurtunity will close soon.
Stop making coffee dates.
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I feel kino, or a lack of it is a big part in why I'm failing at this. The next time we meet, does anyone know of any kino routines or trust tests that I could apply to get to the next stage in this 'dance' that we are doing? Does anyone have any advice? Any comments on the situation? Pointers and tips?
tl;dr I'm having trouble getting handsy. Help!
See, this is another thing that's a widespread myth, IMHO. That there are these eighteen stages of "hand movement" before you go for the kiss, or five levels of KINO from the third dimension, some divine order or process that magically unsnaps a woman's pants button.
No.
You over-complicated it, and you tripped up. Be congruent with your desires, playfully honest, and don't waste your time, or hers.
If, at a half hour into the date your inner voice says "I want to take this woman home", then you smile and say, "let's kick this back to my place." This is what I mean by being congruent.
You don't need to give a reason. Trust me. It's implied.
If she says, "what for?"
Say, "I have this really awesome collection of hand-painted ceramic gnomes I want you to see".
Back to "handsy" on first dates:
Handsy is fucking awkward unless you're bowling, or playing miniature golf. It's bf/gf kino.
Just go for the kiss. A dominant male does not need to play fucking patty-cake with a woman before he goes for what he wants. This is why venue is important. Set up your meets with new women at
night, in
adult venues like bars or eateries or outdoor cafes or parks. This way the time constraint isn't as harsh, and the SPAM better suits seduction.