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Author:  JSmooth [ Mon Aug 03, 2009 7:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Forget everything you think you know...
Want to get really good at meeting women?

Are you already getting pretty good results now?

If you're answering Yes to these then there is something you need to hear.

"Forget everything you think you know..."

The guys like Sinn, El Topo, Mehow, and others didn't get good because they just followed a method to the letter. They did that, got good with it, then disassembled it.

Disassemble everything you thing you know. For example, one of the thoughts is that you have to pay the entire group attention when you are going after a target. What happens if you just work your target and ignore the group using the other skills you already possess?

I could tell you but much better you find out yourself.

Think you can't open and go sexual immediately? HAHA, then forget what you think you know about opening and give it a shot. Can you pull off the opener? It can be done!

Think you have to have a fancy line to get her attention? Not true. I have opened sets by simply saying random things like "Frozen Turkey" combined with good body language, and eye contact the opener doesn't matter much.

Several people on here talk about how to get from being average or descent to getting good. If you want to get good you are going to have to break down what you think you know. A lot of the "Rules" can be broken or bended. Some can be 100% blown away if you are doing other things correctly.

When you are trying to get from average or good to better, and best then you need to experiment. Try other methods! Experiment with things that push you out of your comfort zone until you can pull them off. Here are some quick ideas you can try.

-Work towards a kiss close without saying a word.
-Work on going very sexual very fast. Maybe even try the apocolypse opener.
-Try ignoring the group as you talk to your target.
-Try weird off the wall words and phrases to open with.
-Don't use false time constraints.
-Try using kino to open with.

The point is when you get comfortable in the method you use you have to adapt and try something new to get better. There are so many thoughts out there that this is the way it is because so and so said so. Or that you can't do that. Really?!? How do you know, have you tried?

With this type of growth is going to come rejection and hard work. It's not for the faint of heart, but it will help you grow and learn to be better faster! First of all, don't limit your mind. Scrub your limiting beliefs and start questioning everything you think you know about game, and then experiment. :D

GOOD LUCK,

Jon
Author:  theTK [ Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:15 pm ]
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In pickup there are NO rules, only guidelines!

~TK
Author:  caretaker [ Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:58 pm ]
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This is perfect! I started to do this a month ago and WOW! you can get away with so much. I have been going up to hbs and asking them if they want to make out. 60-70% say maybe later or open up 10% say sure and 20% say no, go away.

The point is to get outside your comfort zone. If you aren't getting blown out, you aren't trying new things.
Author:  Fly9 [ Tue Aug 04, 2009 5:03 am ]
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i'm going to try this; i'll let ya know how the performance goes... if i'm not getting blown out...i'm not trying hard enough :wink:
Author:  Tal0n55 [ Tue Aug 04, 2009 7:36 am ]
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I was at a bar/club the other night and saw some girl eyein me. She grabs her girls, walks by me, looks me direct in the eye and says " Blah blah blah blah.... what?" before I could even say what? Instantly I was attracted and, honestly, I'm a bit more of a noob so I had no idea what to do!!!!

HAHAHHA, i figure if it works on me, might work on a hb :-)


Much love and learning.
Author:  JSmooth [ Thu Nov 10, 2011 4:05 pm ]
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Bump
Author:  Ezo [ Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:44 pm ]
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Very important post Jsmooth!

There is a lot to learn from this!
Author:  dscar92 [ Sat Nov 12, 2011 4:51 am ]
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Good post man!
Author:  mesohorny [ Sat Nov 12, 2011 8:02 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Forget everything you think you know...
Quote:
Want to get really good at meeting women?

Are you already getting pretty good results now?

If you're answering Yes to these
NO , I do not want to get good at meeting women , I already am a pua.

NO , I am not getting pretty good results now.

The thing is dude , this is not the place for your post. You insult us by assuming we all know nothing about women , while in fact you know for a fact that we are pua (PICK UP ARTISTS).

And , I am not getting good results. Neither are you (otherwise you would be too busy getting laid to post such a huge post).
Author:  JSmooth [ Sat Nov 12, 2011 4:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Forget everything you think you know...
Quote:
Quote:
Want to get really good at meeting women?

Are you already getting pretty good results now?

If you're answering Yes to these
NO , I do not want to get good at meeting women , I already am a pua.

NO , I am not getting pretty good results now.

The thing is dude , this is not the place for your post. You insult us by assuming we all know nothing about women , while in fact you know for a fact that we are pua (PICK UP ARTISTS).

And , I am not getting good results. Neither are you (otherwise you would be too busy getting laid to post such a huge post).
I'm not insulting anyone here. I never said the forum knows nothing about women. Not everyone here is a true PUA. There are many on here that are struggling AFCs or just starting into their transitions of becoming a PUA.

This is very much the place for my post. There are so many guys in the community that take the "rules" that other masters say as an absolute. I'm just trying to open up some minds here to help them get better.

I am getting amazing results actually. I have been at this game for 4 years and been in a few LTRS and had many Lays, and even taught this material for some time. Some would call me a mPUA. I don't have to justify myself to you.

And to go one further for your narrow mind. The community may have brain washed you into thinking that the amount of lays you get are the defining thing that separates the guys that are really good from the guys that suck. Everyone is here for different reasons. I am here because I'm very happy with the results and lifestyle I have, and I chose to give back to the same forum that helped me get it.

As far as being too busy to get laid... Mystery, Sinn, Gambler, Adam, Speer, Mehow, Style, and others who I've had the pleasure of talking to and working with do a lot for free to give back to the community. So are they also not getting good results....because they have free time?
Author:  Ezo [ Sat Nov 12, 2011 5:15 pm ]
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I might add that no matter how good we are, we can all still learn from others.
Author:  MynameisFisher [ Sat Nov 12, 2011 5:31 pm ]
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Glad I didn't make a post about this because you drew it much better than I would have. Exactly how my progression went. I found MM and it was great but later I thought...what if I just wouldn't go according to the plan and discard these routines and just be the man I always wanted to be? Guess what... it worked.

Before I was introduced to the game I was a complete 0 as for chicks and social skills.
(Sure I was a World of Warcraft pro. How cool...) After reading MM and some other stuff I got little better but as I went out on the field and started experiencing the stuff instead of just reading about it my skills were fair enough. I could handle shit tests, I could open any set I wanted, I got some nice kisses. And a girlfriend.

The real shit however started when we broke up. I started reading a little again. Found out about natural gaming and gave it a try. My progression was so incredible even I was amazed. 2 lays in 2 weeks. That's something I couldn't have even imagined back then. Guys. Get this advice from JSmooth. He's not trying to offend you for God's sake he's trying to help.
Author:  JSmooth [ Sun Nov 13, 2011 5:27 am ]
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The real shit however started when we broke up. I started reading a little again. Found out about natural gaming and gave it a try. My progression was so incredible even I was amazed. 2 lays in 2 weeks. That's something I couldn't have even imagined back then. Guys. Get this advice from JSmooth. He's not trying to offend you for God's sake he's trying to help.
Thanks bro!
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