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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 3:38 am 
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Excellent! Very good! "With that being said game can ompensate for lack of looks... looks can compensate for lack of game" Vj... By the way the 8-10 guys are hitting on both girls... But the 8 and lower guys are probably hitting on a, intimidated to go to the 10...
Yeah game can compensate lack of looks and vica versa, but still take two parralel universes:
A universe - you have 6/10 looks and 10/10 game
B universe - you have 10/10 looks and that exact same 10/10 game

You in the B universe would do better. Thats fact. Therefore saying that "looks does not matter" is false. Truth is saying that "game can compansate looks" and that is what people actually mean when they say false phrase "looks does not matter"
Looks still add up to the bottom line :)
Looks matter, everything matters! But i have taken girls from way better looking guys than me... Some good looking guys have no game..
Thats what I am saying:
a) you compensate your looks by game and win over better looking dude.
b) looks matter - if you groom yourself even better it improves your bottom line even more.

So we are saying the same things and agree 100%


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Women can date up very easily. For example, take two women, a stunning hottie and an average girl next door. 80 - 90% of the guys thats hitting on the hottie is also hitting on the average chick.

Also, out off those "hundreds" of guys, most of them are putting on a show and trying to impress her and such. The hottie is tired of that shit and she just wants someone who will be real with her. Be real with her, thats how you get her.
You sound like those saying that looks of puas does not matter.. While actually it does and its just a motivational slogan. You find out those excuses, for example about guys who put up a show. Ok there are guys who put up a show, but also there will be guys who are genuine.
I still have to disagree.
woman A http://paleopepper.com/wp-content/uploa ... _07961.jpg
woman B http://www.krunk4ever.com/blog/wp-conte ... e-girl.jpg

First one will be hit mostly by ugly or at most average guys. Do you think many 8/10 and up guys will hit on her? So if you are 8/10 you are standing out for her.

Now for the second girl there will be many genuine guys who not only look good, but also have great personality, character who will be hitting on her. So if you are 8/10 you will have many other competitors, many of them are as good as you, many of them are better.

This is as simple as that.
Excellent! Very good! "With that being said game can ompensate for lack of looks... looks can compensate for lack of game" Vj... By the way the 8-10 guys are hitting on both girls... But the 8 and lower guys are probably hitting on a, intimidated to go to the 10...
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while guys taste are different, for example my 10 is kim kardashian type(while i probably do not compete with white men, i am competing with black and hispanics) you may think my 10 is a 7 but there are 5 other dudes that think she is a 10... and your 10 may be (angelina joley type) i think she is a 7 but there are 10 other dudes that think she is a 10..
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Most girls that are hot, are hot and they know it(and some have a false sense of reality since they get away with everything in most cases), so they will get approach by way more guys, and higher confidence guys than the uglier girls, and they will have higher bitch shield, since they are wanted and be hit on since they are teens till for ever,
This ^^^^ is key. This is exactly what you need to get through the bitch shield.

The super hot chicks have always been hot, even when they were little girls, they would constantly be reminded, by men/uncles family friends. " oh you are going to be so beautiful when you grow up" You could be a model, you're gonna be a heart breaker....etc etc They get hit on by grown men from puberty, if not consciously at least through gestures and looks. These women experience it their entire lives, it becomes ingrained into their very being. It becomes their identity. They become so used to getting hit on by men that most of the time it doesn't even register. They just phase it out until you go away.

From all the ones I have known, they are usually incredibly insecure. They have become so dependent for approval/status of beauty, that they feel they have no identity or self worth. One disturbing commonality is that a good percentage of these women have been sexually abused at one point in their young lives within certain degree's. ( I'm not claiming that all 10's are like this, but from the many that I have known and met, these things were quite common.


From my experience to get these type of women you have to do the opposite of what they have experienced their entire lives ( getting hit on and complimented) you have to show interest in them as a person rather then their looks. Don't mention their looks ever, but also don't neg. Just get into their minds. Reward them for their thoughts and beliefs rather then their looks. Ask deep questions, make them laugh.


As far as confidence goes, it is wise to see them all the same, don't place a value number or status on them.

As far as gaming them, it is different but not because of their looks or HB ranking. But because of their state of mind.

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This forum has a lot of mystery bashers. I follow mystery. I've told plenty of beautiful women compliments from the get go. I had 0 success with it.
Have you consider it wasn't working because of maybe how you where delivering the compliments?
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At the end of the day, deciding whether it is harder to game a 7 or a 10 is up to the individual...
You do realize that is all in your head right? If you think they are harder to game they become harder to game, its really that simple.
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But to say I can use the same game for as I would for a 7 on a 10 is wrong.
No its not if you want a higher closing rate. If you want a lower closing rate then game the two differently.


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You are talking about perception, wich is right to me.

My subjective side will decide wich way I`m going to act in front of a certain situation.

I`d like to use an example:

Let`s say in sports, while doing fencing right?

You are getting good at your fencing practice, you improved a lot by losing a lot of times and learned a lot of lessons.

But the day comes were you find yourself in a competition, and THAT`S when your mind takes over you.
You lose, simply couldn`t control your anxiety, your moves, practically couldn`t show haalf the things you`ve learned in your practice.

What I`m saying here is that perception is everything, main reason why they ultimately say that a PUA goes out to improve his calibration. Calibration being another way of the subjectivity to show.

Wish it were that easy, but hot women scare the shit outta me, and therefore I use a mask to try and seduce them, wich ends up with me being blown out.


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Seems like the hottest girls are the ones that never have a real convo with a man. Starting a conversation based around a buddies scenario. Like asking their opinion on jealousy stuff with facebook. Example: My buddy and his girl are fighting right now because she found out an ex of his sent him a message on FB. Something he couldnt control. How do you feel about that? What's your take? Is that appropriate?

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Of course there are exceptions, but generally the hotter they are the more self-esteem they have. Gaming a supermodel is generally more difficult than the typical person on the street.


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ok picture this....
I know hotties don't want to be impressed, but want you to be real...ok i get that..
And here I am with al my skills(no arrogance)...I actually like to impress people with my skills...It's what i do...how do I change that? or adjust that, so they actually like me showing off?

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Of course there are exceptions, but generally the hotter they are the more self-esteem they have. Gaming a supermodel is generally more difficult than the typical person on the street.
How many supermodels have you gamed?

Game is game, doesn't change. Only difference would occur if you are nervous because she's hot.

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Just be genuine and treat her like you would treat any other human being.


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  • 1. Supply and Demand.

    2. Social Circle of the HB10s versus HB5. To get to the HB10 runway model, you'll have to pass through a lot of social barriers while you can easily find the HB5 in a street corner.

    3. The exceptions to the general rule are EXCEPTIONS. A general rule applies to most; not all. Meanwhile, exceptions apply to the minority and not all of the minority.
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"Modeling" is a job, not a a description of attractiveness.

Models, in clubs and bars, can be a pain in the ass to work as they often move around in tribes like a bunch of baboons in the Savannah. Chat up with one however, and you've met them all. Not sure how those supermodels work but the b listers move around quite often, staying in a particular city for a few months at a time until the local ad agencies are ready for a fresh face. If you're lucky enough to be in a city where the b list model slave trade is active, go position yourself. As members of their tribe rotate in and out, you'll continue to be introduced to new faces.

These are stereotypes but generally true:

1. Tall.
2. Not very bright.
3. Promiscuous.

In regards to beautiful women:

The easiest way to beautify a girl is to throw some money on her. There was a thread where a guy showed a picture of a dude to which most members rated highly. The only thing that changes our looks is a haircut and a shave. Things are a bit different for women. Anybody who's been around with women for a long time will tell you that their physical appearances vary wildly throughout their lives. Ugly duckling become gorgeous and high school beauty contest winners can become 3's. . .and this back and forth can happen several times in a girl's life. . . and it has a lot to do with where they are in their lives emotionally, professionally, mentally. . .

Generally, the girls that most guys think of 10's were not very pretty in high school. 10's don't exist. 10's are an exaggeration, an overstatement. 10's need to make a point. This is a chick's version of delusional liars that might flock to pua sites and scream, "I am alpha! I am alpha! I fucked 1,000 chicks! Look at me! I can also ride a bike with no hands!" - This is a toxic match up of high self esteem + low abilities.

Delusional chicks cake themselves with money. Delusional men cake themselves with lies. In both cases, it amounts to self mockery. These types don't make interesting company but the girls have vaginas to offer. All it takes is an escorted filed trip to reality. And part of that reality is her looks, make up, and insecurities. In confronting her, there is no way to avoid what pua's would call 'negging'. . . and she'll like it.

Another correction to a myth:

Beautiful women DO NOT get hit on all the time. Take one look at this forum. Sure, there are plenty newbies here but this is a forum dedicated to picking up chicks. Still, most members here write about their fears over hitting on 10's. *This phenomena occurs just as much out there as it does in here. When they do get 'hit on', it's often some silly joke from a bunch of guys and it amounts to, "My buddies dared me to . . ." And to stand there and talk to a beautiful woman and NOT talk about her appearance is as moronic as it is to talk about her appearance all night long. It's interesting to read how some guys are so elated with assumptions that they can 'perceive behavior', and yet behave as if they think women can't do the same.

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Another correction to a myth:

Beautiful women DO NOT get hit on all the time. Take one look at this forum. Sure, there are plenty newbies here but this is a forum dedicated to picking up chicks. Still, most members here write about their fears over hitting on 10's. *This phenomena occurs just as much out there as it does in here. When they do get 'hit on', it's often some silly joke from a bunch of guys and it amounts to, "My buddies dared me to . . ." And to stand there and talk to a beautiful woman and NOT talk about her appearance is as moronic as it is to talk about her appearance all night long. It's interesting to read how some guys are so elated with assumptions that they can 'perceive behavior', and yet behave as if they think women can't do the same.

Beautiful women get hit a lot, what are you talking about, to the point they do not even get on the dancefloor sometimes, they do not want to be bothered, kasabi as you may know most newbies here are afc, social rejects... Most hot women get approach by confident naturals, and they heard it all, you got a be somehow different...What makes you different from every other dude than approach them? those are the dudes that get in.


Now there is the 1% of girls that do not get approach at all, cause the guy goes "she is to hot why even waste my time" but that is the minority... [/quote]

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"Modeling" is a job, not a a description of attractiveness.
Runway fashion modeling is a job that requires above average, even exceptional, attractiveness. Examples illustrate a concept. :twisted:

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The majority of beautiful women get hit on all the time. The majority of average looking women get hit on all the time lmao. As long as you have a vagina between your legs, and look decent, you get hit on a lot.

And I'm not just talking out of my ass. I remember Keri Hilson (The fine singer) said something very similar to that.


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