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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 12:27 am 
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This is my first post ever on any PUA/seduction forum ever. I’m pretty excited. I’ve been a long-time lurker and learned soooo much over the past 10 years. This is not my first lay, and I am very experienced. I just really want to write about “sugar” encounters since it’s so different from other kinds. I can talk more about history in another post. Onto the report…

This is my first lay of an HB I met from a sugar daddy site back in August 2014 (I have more LRs, but one at a time). I met HBBlackSoul on seekingarrangement. She was a curvy white girl whose body reminded me of Sofia Vergara (but she’s white). Big tits, big ass, skinny waist. I call her “BlackSoul” because she is going to law school, and lawyers are evil. We had a laugh about it one time. She is very smart and is into some nerdy stuff I would later find out.

Little background on me: I’m in my 30s. I have a high-paying office job. I am tall and white. I spent about $25 total on all of our encounters, which did not last beyond 3 weeks. I think she decided that if a real sugar daddy came along, she would drop me. Fine by me. I am really fascinated with converting women looking for sugar daddies into normal relationships. And, I don’t have any expectations. I suck at conversions at the moment, but I am enjoying the sex while I learn.

We exchanged a few messages on the website and she likened me to a wizard. Then, we started texting. I like to do lots of texting to build comfort before a first date. Here is the transcript leading up to the first date:

[08/24/2014 5:50 PM] Me: Merlin likes his slaves discreet, so he likes that you're a lady too. :-D
[08/24/2014 5:56 PM] Me: This is me on my off day today so you know I'm not a catfish. <MMS>
[08/24/2014 6:10 PM] HBBlackSoul: Hahaha! Formidable evidence. Let me prove my existence as well.
[08/24/2014 6:27 PM] Me: Please do
[08/24/2014 6:28 PM] HBBlackSoul: I know it looks like I was attacked by a werewolf on my neck but I'm just weird and scratch myself in my sleep sometimes. <MMS>
[08/24/2014 6:30 PM] Me: haha you sound like such a dude... scratching yourself in your sleep. Come on catfish... Show me the rock n roll sign like you're headbanging to Metallica.
[08/24/2014 6:31 PM] Me: To prove you're real.
[08/24/2014 6:33 PM] HBBlackSoul: Will a picture of me eating the rock n roll sign suffice? <MMS>
[08/24/2014 6:34 PM] HBBlackSoul: And does this mean I get to make requests? If so I'm gonna need to see a picture of you running your fingers through your hair in a highly dramatic fashion.
[08/24/2014 6:37 PM] Me: That's good. Looks like you want to eat something. Sure this is fun. <MMS>
[08/24/2014 6:41 PM] HBBlackSoul: Not quite enough drama but I guess I'll take it. ;)
[08/24/2014 6:42 PM] Me: That's my best duck face btw
[08/24/2014 6:51 PM] HBBlackSoul: Hahahaha
[08/24/2014 6:54 PM] Me: Haha yeah I'm not the most dramatic person
[08/24/2014 6:54 PM] HBBlackSoul: Definitely better than the typical hot white bitch duck face :p
[08/24/2014 6:55 PM] Me: I bet you won a Tony for your dramatic faces. :-O
[08/24/2014 7:01 PM] HBBlackSoul: Clearly <MMS>
[08/24/2014 7:03 PM] HBBlackSoul: Hahaha.
[08/24/2014 7:09 PM] HBBlackSoul: So where's your neck of the woods?
[08/24/2014 7:10 PM] Me: That's some daytime tv quality there. ;-)
[08/24/2014 7:10 PM] HBBlackSoul: ...just now realizing how unattractive that picture is.
[08/24/2014 7:11 PM] Me: At a friends house for dinner. Try not to send too many sexy pics.
[08/24/2014 7:12 PM] Me: [my area of town]
[08/24/2014 7:12 PM] HBBlackSoul: Oh no. If you weren't technically a stranger I would make it rain with the tit pics just to embarrass you.
[08/24/2014 7:24 PM] Me: Oh god
[08/24/2014 7:51 PM] HBBlackSoul: But I am merciful.
[08/25/2014 1:08 PM] Me: Hey. :-) Good for tomorrow at 830? Let's do [bar] in [my part of town].
[08/25/2014 1:21 PM] HBBlackSoul: So...we're stripping...in [my part of town]?
[08/25/2014 1:21 PM] HBBlackSoul: Just kidding. That works for me.
[08/25/2014 1:49 PM] Me: I like how your mind works. ;-) cool.
[08/25/2014 2:00 PM] HBBlackSoul: Hahaha well thanks.
[08/25/2014 2:04 PM] Me: When's the last time you stripped for someone?
[08/25/2014 2:06 PM] HBBlackSoul: I can't say that I have ever stripped for someone.
[08/25/2014 2:08 PM] Me: Me neither except for a birthday one time. Was fun.
[08/25/2014 2:09 PM] HBBlackSoul: Was this for a lady?
[08/25/2014 2:09 PM] Me: No for an elderly couple.
[08/25/2014 2:10 PM] Me: Kidding. Yes a lady.
[08/25/2014 2:14 PM] HBBlackSoul: ...I would have been more impressed if it was for an elderly couple.
[08/25/2014 2:16 PM] HBBlackSoul: It is fan fucking gorgeous today. I just want to go swim in creek or roll around on some grass.
[08/25/2014 2:16 PM] Me: Aww poor baby... :-( I've gotten hit on by a few grandmas. So flattering.
[08/25/2014 2:19 PM] HBBlackSoul: Hahaha. Grandma's are great for flattery. I know an old lady that gives me all of her designer clothes from the early 80's and I love her so much for keeping me styling.
[08/25/2014 2:20 PM] Me: Show me. Yeah it's gorgeous outside. I forgot what an 80s bikini looks like...
[08/25/2014 2:23 PM] HBBlackSoul: Hahaha no designer bikinis but there is this brilliantly patterned two piece.
[08/25/2014 2:23 PM] HBBlackSoul: <MMS>
[08/25/2014 2:25 PM] Me: Classic. I think I see shoulder pads there. I'm a designer's piece from the 80s now that I think about it.
[08/25/2014 2:25 PM] HBBlackSoul: Well the only appropriate response to that is can I, in fact, wear you?
[08/25/2014 2:26 PM] Me: No but you could be a nice accessory to me. 😉
[08/25/2014 2:27 PM] HBBlackSoul: Being a designer piece from the 90's, I can accept that prospect.
[08/25/2014 2:30 PM] Me: Yeah those two decades loved each other.
[08/25/2014 2:32 PM] HBBlackSoul: What year were you birthed?
[08/25/2014 2:33 PM] Me: 1984. By Tommy Hilfigger. :-P you?
[08/25/2014 2:35 PM] HBBlackSoul: 1991 by Calvin Klein
[08/25/2014 2:37 PM] Me: Nice. Lol Were you purchased retail or custom?
[08/25/2014 2:37 PM] HBBlackSoul: Custom biatch!
[08/25/2014 2:38 PM] HBBlackSoul: Just kidding. I was born to two very normal non designer individuals. One is a practically a hobbit.
[08/25/2014 2:39 PM] Me: Haha. Oh no will we have a height problem? This might not work out if you're like a child to me.
[08/25/2014 2:40 PM] HBBlackSoul: Well my mother is actually an elf and luckily I took after her in the height department.
[08/25/2014 2:42 PM] Me: Cool. I'm an elf too. Do we have the same pointy ears and have a love of bows and arrows?
[08/25/2014 2:43 PM] HBBlackSoul: No...my ears are kind of...small. but bows and arrows are cool!
[08/25/2014 2:44 PM] Me: Lol. I liked Orlando Bloom in Lord of the Rings. Very elfish.
[08/25/2014 2:47 PM] HBBlackSoul: I like him in almost anything. Nothing even.
[08/25/2014 2:48 PM] HBBlackSoul: Badum tissss
[08/25/2014 2:48 PM] Me: Haha I hear he's a cutie. Very feminine looking to me.
[08/25/2014 2:50 PM] HBBlackSoul: Indeed. Are you a more feminine looking elf yourself?
[08/25/2014 2:51 PM] Me: Some say yes, and some say no. Inside I'm more of a Gandalf... with my magical wand.
[08/25/2014 2:54 PM] HBBlackSoul: More of a staff, really.
[08/25/2014 2:56 PM] Me: Getting forgetful in my old age. Either way, still magical.
[08/25/2014 2:58 PM] HBBlackSoul: Hahahaha
[08/25/2014 2:58 PM] HBBlackSoul: How tall are you?
[08/25/2014 2:59 PM] Me: 6'3" but 7'8" if I use the magic.
[08/25/2014 2:59 PM] HBBlackSoul: 0_0
[08/25/2014 3:01 PM] Me: Just wear heals, no worries.
[08/25/2014 3:01 PM] HBBlackSoul: Hahaha. I mean... I'm 5'10, and I like somebody that makes me feel normal sized. A lot.
[08/25/2014 3:04 PM] Me: :-) I'd also make you feel tiny in bed. Hope you're okay with that.
[08/25/2014 3:05 PM] HBBlackSoul: Yes. Quite alright indeed. :)
[08/25/2014 3:06 PM] Me: :-)
[08/25/2014 3:06 PM] HBBlackSoul: Though I guess I should tell you, I'm not just tall...I'm pretty curvy. Not fat. Just. Not... petite. Hahaha.
[08/25/2014 3:07 PM] HBBlackSoul: I mean I can send you a picture to give you an idea. Nothing explicit.
[08/25/2014 3:07 PM] Me: You just made my day. Curvy is great! Please do and I'll keep the phone to myself.
[08/25/2014 3:08 PM] HBBlackSoul: Hahaha hokay.
[08/25/2014 3:09 PM] HBBlackSoul: <MMS>
[08/25/2014 3:09 PM] HBBlackSoul: <MMS>
[08/25/2014 3:11 PM] HBBlackSoul: ...should I also go ahead and put it out there that I have a few hidden piercings? Some guys are really vanilla.
[08/25/2014 3:12 PM] Me: You are just my type. Looks like Calvin Klein makes some nice workout clothes. I like all piercings, and yeah I know what you mean.
[08/25/2014 3:13 PM] HBBlackSoul: We are going to get along just fine then.
[08/25/2014 3:14 PM] Me: I wouldn't call myself a dungeon master either.
[08/25/2014 3:16 PM] HBBlackSoul: Hahaha! That's okay. I'm not a seasoned slave.
[08/25/2014 3:19 PM] Me: That's fine. So far I'm liking you, and I'll see how our quick drinks go tomorrow. But so far, I would be honored to grab a fistful of your hair and use you like my personal sex toy.
[08/25/2014 3:23 PM] HBBlackSoul: That would uh yeah be what I words don't have brzzzz yessssssssir.
[08/25/2014 3:24 PM] Me: ☺ biggest smile on my face right now
[08/25/2014 3:26 PM] HBBlackSoul: Biggest dilemma trying to concentrate on work after that.
[08/25/2014 3:27 PM] Me: Biggest strain in my pants.
[08/25/2014 3:27 PM] HBBlackSoul: Hahahahahaha
[08/25/2014 3:33 PM] HBBlackSoul: Lady boners are a thing.
[08/26/2014 4:04 PM] Me: Left work early and going to have a nice long dinner. See you at 830?
[08/26/2014 4:43 PM] HBBlackSoul: Yessir.
[08/26/2014 8:41 PM] Me: I'm here at the bar.
[08/26/2014 8:41 PM] HBBlackSoul: I'm running a liiiiittle late but I'll be there soon.

The first date went fantastically. When a woman is into you before you’ve even met, then it feels absolutely amazing. Instead of going on a date where you have to do a little “work” to get her comfortable with you, HBBlackSoul showed up very interested and very comfortable with me. I just sat back and enjoyed talking with her about law school, wizards, pool parties, and my work. It was 95% friendly banter. After 10-15 minutes, I started kino’ing her more on her arm and thigh. She was very receptive, and we stayed close and touched the whole time.

I paid for the date and mentioned that I had to go. So, we left with a very tight, pro-longed hug, and I started walking home. On my way home, we had this text exchange:

[08/26/2014 9:49 PM] HBBlackSoul: I...am very lost in the parking deck.
[08/26/2014 9:52 PM] Me: Oh no!
[08/26/2014 9:53 PM] HBBlackSoul: I wasn't kidding about the directionally challenged thing.
[08/26/2014 9:53 PM] Me: You'll need a lot of direction in bed. :-)
[08/26/2014 9:54 PM] HBBlackSoul: If I'm not raped and murdered in this parking deck first.
[08/26/2014 9:55 PM] Me: Come visit me and look for it later.
[08/26/2014 9:55 PM] HBBlackSoul: Hahaha! Where are you? You left me kind of abruptly, you know.
[08/26/2014 9:56 PM] Me: Early start tomorrow. I'm at the apartments next to [bar].
[08/26/2014 9:56 PM] HBBlackSoul: You're weird :)
[08/26/2014 9:57 PM] HBBlackSoul: I can't say I'll be able to stay out too late but if you wanna hang out some more mister weirdo, you better tell me now.
[08/26/2014 9:58 PM] Me: I'm here at home. I would enjoy you for a little more tonight.
[08/26/2014 9:59 PM] HBBlackSoul: Fair enough. Meet me in front of where you live.
[08/26/2014 10:00 PM] HBBlackSoul: I can't find my car anyway.
[08/26/2014 10:00 PM] Me: K. Just walk towards the front of [place]. I'll meet you there.
[08/26/2014 10:08 PM] HBBlackSoul: I feel like a streetwalker. And I'm here.

Then, we sealed the deal. She had a fantaaaaastic booty. I draped her over some furniture and stood back to admire it. No LMR, no issues… just awesome.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 7:01 pm 
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I met HBBlackSoul on seekingarrangement.
I'm very curious about your other experiences if you have many from that site. How long have you been on? I was on the site for 3 months and my sexual experience multiplied around 10x. I got some play without paying...mostly just BJs... and I felt a lil guilty for not paying. Being a young guy on there makes you stick out like a sore thumb.

I usually was really direct with girls but noticed that some of them (especially older with kids) wanted more out of the relationship (of course everyone has their own reasons). I also started to feel that if I go on there again (currently inactive) that I would approach it from the angle you took with the idea of trying to have a relationship. I have never had so many attractive women interested..

Most of the girls I met on there were focused on being paid (maybe due to my approach) in some way or another and that the relationship was contingent on that. I would often open with "I want to fuck your brains out" lol... Approaching it as you did (very friendly banter) is a better approach if you want a longer lasting relationship.

What city do you live?

It's insane (not really lol) how I was more "productive" on that one site in 3 months than the last 27 years of my life on ALL the regular ass online dating sites/apps.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 3:08 am 
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I'm very curious about your other experiences if you have many from that site. How long have you been on?
I've been on seekingarrangment for a little more than a year now. It's been fantastic for new lays with gorgeous women, as you probably know. There is no other way (that I know) you can meet as beautiful women that often from an online venue. Altogether, I've slept with 6 new women from that site. I want ongoing relationships (casual or otherwise), and so I'm not nearly as direct (or as active) as you are.

I like the direct approach since it cuts out lots of bullshit, and I am curious if that method could reliably lead to a casual relationship... the process of direct-->fuck her good-->fuck her good-->repeat. But in my experience, it fizzles after a few months.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 5:33 pm 
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I've been on seekingarrangment for a little more than a year now. It's been fantastic for new lays with gorgeous women, as you probably know. There is no other way (that I know) you can meet as beautiful women that often from an online venue. Altogether, I've slept with 6 new women from that site. I want ongoing relationships (casual or otherwise), and so I'm not nearly as direct (or as active) as you are.

I like the direct approach since it cuts out lots of bullshit, and I am curious if that method could reliably lead to a casual relationship... the process of direct-->fuck her good-->fuck her good-->repeat. But in my experience, it fizzles after a few months.
That's exactly why I went back to it. I'm so frustrated putting in max effort on girls THAT ARE BARELY AVERAGE LOOKING from other sites and getting no result. I texted this girl off and on for 1 month from Tinder, we seemed to have a good connection, and she agreed to meet, then she just doesn't text anymore ... lol. I get many girls to message back and forth with me on Match that stop responding as soon as I ask to meet (mind you after long involved text conversations).... sigh... anyway...

I find myself wanting to have something more meaningful but most of the women I've met there are not looking for that (esp the young ones). Not that that is any different than what you would encounter outside the site. I have transitioned to hide my intentions and just say "see how we get along and go from there!" and then escalate once on the date.

I've lost track of how many girls I've actually gone out with from the site. It's probably around 20 and 10 I did sexual things with. I've met a couple small time models. In general, the hotter and younger they are, the harder to keep engaged...and they usually don't want anything long term. Went out the other night with a girl that looked like Selena Gomez, but was more attractive than Selena.

Anyway, I have one thing ongoing with a girl that doesn't ask for any money. But I'm quiet bored with her. She's not very engaging. I think it's natural for things to fizzle as two people see what each other is really like.

The direct approach works well on older women that know they have baggage or are less attractive. It's more difficult if the woman is young and very attractive. The best looking girls I've found are always very very VERY cautious of who they do sexual things with.


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