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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 6:39 pm 
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If you are having problems with your beliefs, confidence and self-esteem on the subject of sex about not being able to last long enough then read this article I found

The best sexual intercourse lasts between 7 and 13 minutes, according to a new survey by US experts.

According to the research, led by Dr Eric Corty, from the Behrend College in Erie, Pennsylvania, three-minute sex is 'adequate'.

The study is the first to review what the experts believe is the ideal length of time to have penetrative sex, with the random sample of Americans and Canadians labeling 7 to 13 minutes most 'desirable'.

The study concluded that intercourse lasting between 3 and 7 minutes was 'adequate', but anything less was 'too short' and beyond 13 minutes was 'too long'.

The extraordinary research is designed to help calm couples' unrealistic beliefs that healthy sex should last a long time.

Corty said that this was a situation "ripe for disappointment and dissatisfaction".
"In the fantasy model of male sexuality, men have large penises, rock-hard erections, and can sustain sexual activity all night long," News.com.au quoted Corty, as saying.

"It appears that many men and women hold this fantasy. The results from the present study, by providing a realistic not a fantasy model of sexuality, are useful both in treating people with sexual concerns and dysfunctions, and with wider circulation, in preventing the onset of sexual dysfunctions," he added.

Reacting to the research, Australian sex therapists commented that most Aussie men wanted sex to last considerably longer while most women were 'not bothered' if it was over with fast.

Dr Jane Howard, a Brisbane-based medical sex therapist, said there was a dearth of data on Australians' expectation of sex.

Anecdotal evidence suggested most Australian women would be happy with the therapists' "adequate" time of three to seven minutes, while men would not.

The study is published in the international Journal of Sexual Medicine.




And on another site on the same subject a guy wrote in the comments below "First of all. Read up on the subject. The best sex is listed as lasting 4-7 minutes. Do it, cuddle, repeat lol. Long sexual episodes tend to get painful for her, so relax." Even thou his time listed is shorter than the article its sound advice if you ask me!

So don't worry so much about lasting hours in bed, 7 - 13 minutes backed up with foreplay that focuses alot on her G-Spot Should do just fine and if you feel like something more than a quicky then go again after a cuddle or two

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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 9:23 am 
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I've heard from a non-reputable source that women prefer 25 minutes on average. This becomes way easier as you get older. That's about how long I prefer, too. 3 or 4 rounds of this is typically enough to wear out any girl. And a lot of women love to be sore the next day. I've definitely had girls be disappointed with 7-10 minutes though and I haven't had any that were like "Stop, you're taking too long," or "That would've been better if you stopped ten minutes ago," so grain of salt. You also have to take into account these days a vast majority of people are unhealthy and overweight so that might account for the 7-13 minutes.


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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 12:51 pm 
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25 minutes of sex on average could mean not just penetration at least half could be foreplay, remember sex just doesn't mean sticking your dick in her pussy and in that 25 minute session if you get her off you're good even if you were just able to hold yourself back for 7 minutes during penetration

The times girls have been disappointed with 7-10 minutes with you did that time include forplay and did you manage to get her off, it also depend on the situation 7-13 mintues just once on a night in would be pretty crap, but two or three sessions were she has had an orgasim each time and not just through penetration will keep her pretty happy unless shes a nympho or something

Satisfying your girl is not about long periods of constant fucking, its about getting her off pirority number one its not a marathon and if I was to go for more than a quicky like a night in I'd rather have 4-5 sessions in two hours than just one, marathon sex bores me but each to his own

But that article is just evidence that most of what guys think is media bullshit, you don't have to be riding for hours to keep your girl happy or to compete with the average male being that most can barely last past 3 minutes without blowing their wad

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Lol!

for those who realy want long sex, i have some usefull advice.

The first time i had sex, i knew i would have it before.
so thinking that my orgasm would come to soon, i jacked off the day before and two hours before having sex.

The sex was realy long. in combination with a condom, it takes even longer.

Altough the sex was still great, i dont know if a lot of people would want to have sex as long as i did. It also feel less good then having done nothing 3 days before the sex.

But those who realy want sex that takes long, i surely would follow this advice x)

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Touche'. The girls that complained were the ones I wasn't interested in foreplay with, I didn't think of that. I outgrew that though. If I'm not at least that interested, I shouldn't be having sex with them. Really though, I enjoy marathon sex and I like it to be an EVENT. These polls are kind of irrelevant, you should concentrate on what you prefer and then negotiate with your partner. Everyone's different.

Yeah, I could get off in 3 minutes, I have that kind of control, but the orgasm is so much better after 20 minutes of build up and coming at just the right moment. It's holy, it's better than any drug I've done. Best way to increase your stamina and control is experience, don't fool yourself. There's a reason some young girls latch on to older guys who seem like losers.


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Yeah but remember this post has nothing to do with personal likes and dislikes when it comes to sex, thats to do with your own personality, plus the reason some girls latch on to older men is because older men know how to get them off, its nothing to do with how long they last

This post is about crushing guys fears which is the main reason that is stopping them from having sex

Brandi Belle And Coco, Stamina Survey (download the full video)

This video proves my point exactly, they interview ramdom guys on the street and ask them how long they can last in bed, you get anywhere from 45 minutes to 2 hours on average, one guy said the longest he has ever lasted was 3 hours and brandi belle was like "wow!" so she put it to the test

The guy that said 3 hours came in about 3 minutes and another one of the random guys that said an hour came after about 7 minutes, the rest chickened out and they were talking about them lasting from an hour till 2 hours on average

Heres the video (its not the full one but you see the interviews)


http://eskimotube.com/90848-Brandi-Bell ... .html?th=1

These are the guys you're in competition with 99% of the time

Instead put your efforts into making her cum instead of trying to compete with false expectations, if you make your girl cum during forplay, fuck her for 10 minutes and then cuddle for a bit you're doing just fine, thats what a real 25 minute session is (known as a quicky) and on a night in, 3 or 4 sessions of this (which could be over a time period of 3 -5 hours) with her cumming in each one is more than enough to keep any girl happy

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PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 12:17 pm 
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I guess. I find this 3-13 minutes pretty suspicious. Maybe I'm just a sex addict. My last two girlfriends were pleased with 40 minute sessions. Oh well, if it soothes the virgins and guys that can't last five minutes, I guess it's valuable info.


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Just type it into google "how long does the average guy last" check out the amount of posts on it, its also backed up by medical journals and studies as in the first thread, the evidence is there, infact I'll help you

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QW04-VwwyPU

http://theendurancereport.com/blog/23/h ... st-in-bed/

http://www.dearcupid.org/question/how-l ... -last.html

If you're lasting longer than the average guy and making your girl cum during foreplay and intercourse (thats if she can even have an orgasim through intercourse, which alot of girls can't) you're doing fine, trust me if you get your girls thighs shaking and her body straightening out she is not going to have any complaints

Maybe thats why you're pumping away for long periods of time minsok, maybe you're not finding the spot ;D

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Don't talk to me about finding the spot, junior. But yeah, I just had to edit a tirade I posted about why 3-13 minutes can't possibly be right. I did an impromptu poll of some girls in my phonebook (excluding my grandma) and so far the consensus is 3-13 minutes sounds like a good amount. It's like my world just imploded and turned out to be a ringworld; everything I know is wrong! Now I have to watch the clock, in the OPPOSITE direction.

P.S.How do I know if I'm a sex addict?


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I wanna boldly go where no man has gone before or whatever and see this thread from a new perspective.

Ezo´s law about sex.

There are not two girls in this world who likes the same thing. Everybody have different preferences and experiences, believe me, I have seen strange things...

So dont take these studies too seriously, it works in statistics but in real life the chances are quite high that you are gonna meet a girl who doesnt fit into the standard...

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PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2010 1:20 am 
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Yeah but Ezo the post isnt about likes and dislikes, It was originally intended to stop guys having unrealistic expectations that they have to last hours in bed to please their girl

My aim was to get guys thinking more along the lines of getting their women off rather than lasting along time, hopefully I've achieved that aim so that if any guys that have problems with their beliefs in that area can now relax and enjoy themselves instead of worrying

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These polls are kind of irrelevant, you should concentrate on what you prefer and then negotiate with your partner. Everyone's different.
Boldly go where no man has gone before, eh Ezo? Yeah, I got like the same response from thevault, too. Guys who aren't worried about their performance will read this thread differently.


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This post was never for guys that have no problems with sex thats why its in the "Beliefs and Confidence Building, Self-Esteem, and General Inner Game" section

Its about removing issues that messes guys up and stops them having the fun they deserve to have with the girls they like

(it is not for guys who are comfortable with their sexual ability)

pitty you don't get it

you seem to be more concerned with telling everyone how good at sex you are, pretty funny really, qualification in action :D

Thou in saying that, you did investigate and added your poll findings to the post

Minsok - "I did an impromptu poll of some girls in my phonebook (excluding my grandma) and so far the consensus is 3-13 minutes sounds like a good amount."

That I appreciated, but the 3-13 should be 7-13 being that the average guy lasts only 2-6 minutes, you should be aiming higher than 6 minutes intercourse minimum everything after that is personal choice and has no relevance to this post

Anyway thanks guys, I think I've said enough on this post, yous can battle it out yourselves from here on in, my evidence is there, either consider it or leave yourselves wondering are you getting it right and find your own way, so I'll leave ya with the words of pornstar Shawna Lenee (two girls teach sex) "as long as your getting us off we don't care"

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Yeah, no shit. I'm not afraid to tell people when I'm wrong and switch sides. You can't just exclude people from a thread just because they aren't your intended audience. I find this information fascinating and it is something I want to be attentive of next time I have sex. Sorry you inadvertently helped me out, too. Sorry I keep this thread alive and more people see it every time I post a response.


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Sorry if your feelings have been hurt thats not my intention

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