PUA Forum :: Being "The Man"- Charisma, Humor, Presence, Body L

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thanks poetic thats helped alot .with eye contact i practised a bit today on the amount of time i also read a bit on internet like it talks about how you should smile n such but it also said that you should not stare or make eye contact for more than 5-6 seconds at a time , how do you look away as not to be submissive if that makes any sense

also with the humour /teasing i read one of your other posts taalking about how tone and body language is key to humour that helped . what kind of tone should you be sounding like i think i understand the body lnguage ( freindly smiling etc) .
and read some books like you said can you recommend any ?

dude really thanks again ive still got a long way with this humour/teasing stuff but im getting there

Sorry it took so long. Things go busy the last few days.

You are not looking down just glance at something else for a moment, don't look down or move your head down. You can even turn your head to the right to show you are listening intently. You could look over at something and then look back. If you need you can just move your eyes to another part of their body and then look back to their eyes(I am suggesting arms or clothes not boobs or ass.) Just don't act as if you are looking away from them, just look at something different and then back. Don't let you avoid making contact so much as looking over at something. 5-6 seconds straight can seem long but the key is the break, but it isn't with a smile.

I think the conversation is the only thing that limits or expands the amount of eye contact, if your in a conversation with a girl in an intimate situation 5-6 seconds won't seem as long. If you are having a passionate conversation about anything you'll likely make stronger eye contact. If you are listening to someone talk about calculus and you are not interested it will seem very difficult to listen for 5-6 seconds.

Humor with body language is merely a disagreement with your words. You could be saying yes I will do something with your body language but say no aloud using words. Or vice versa. The point is to have contradictory body language to your verbal message. So it looks funny. "I hate you" with a huge smile is different then with an angry look. You will see this pop up through out a lot of comedies and stand ups.

I don't know any books, go on amazon look for a highly rated book. Then buy it or go to the book store and find it. Make sure to read some reviews if you go this route. There are some fake reviews put on for marketing purposes.

Author:	kata123 [ Sat Feb 26, 2011 2:33 pm ]
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Quote: Quote: thanks poetic thats helped alot .with eye contact i practised a bit today on the amount of time i also read a bit on internet like it talks about how you should smile n such but it also said that you should not stare or make eye contact for more than 5-6 seconds at a time , how do you look away as not to be submissive if that makes any sense also with the humour /teasing i read one of your other posts taalking about how tone and body language is key to humour that helped . what kind of tone should you be sounding like i think i understand the body lnguage ( freindly smiling etc) . and read some books like you said can you recommend any ? dude really thanks again ive still got a long way with this humour/teasing stuff but im getting there Sorry it took so long. Things go busy the last few days. You are not looking down just glance at something else for a moment, don't look down or move your head down. You can even turn your head to the right to show you are listening intently. You could look over at something and then look back. If you need you can just move your eyes to another part of their body and then look back to their eyes(I am suggesting arms or clothes not boobs or ass.) Just don't act as if you are looking away from them, just look at something different and then back. Don't let you avoid making contact so much as looking over at something. 5-6 seconds straight can seem long but the key is the break, but it isn't with a smile. I think the conversation is the only thing that limits or expands the amount of eye contact, if your in a conversation with a girl in an intimate situation 5-6 seconds won't seem as long. If you are having a passionate conversation about anything you'll likely make stronger eye contact. If you are listening to someone talk about calculus and you are not interested it will seem very difficult to listen for 5-6 seconds. Humor with body language is merely a disagreement with your words. You could be saying yes I will do something with your body language but say no aloud using words. Or vice versa. The point is to have contradictory body language to your verbal message. So it looks funny. "I hate you" with a huge smile is different then with an angry look. You will see this pop up through out a lot of comedies and stand ups. I don't know any books, go on amazon look for a highly rated book. Then buy it or go to the book store and find it. Make sure to read some reviews if you go this route. There are some fake reviews put on for marketing purposes. thanks you so much poetic the eye contact topic has helped me now i know a lot more about what is a stare and what is normal eye contact . before i would look into the persons eyes for ages at a time because that was what i saw as holding eye contact not i followed what you said and look at clothing for like a second maybe less then look back at eyes which all feels so much less awkward. and when listening to person i do the same with more eye contact . its the same with humour i understand alot more too still a bit tough but ill practise thanks again poetic youve probaby heard this a thousand times but you are the man

Author:	poeticlyskuac [ Thu Mar 03, 2011 6:19 am ]
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Thanks for all the love guys. I am glad you are getting a lot out of it.

Author:	poeticlyskuac [ Mon Mar 28, 2011 11:17 pm ]
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Don't Stress It I recently watched a documentary called Stress: The Portrait of a Killer. It mentions something that we all talk about, "instead of acting this Alpha male I just don't give a shit" is something that comes to mind for a lot of people. I disagree with it in a lot of perspectives but it holds some scientific value that I think everyone should know about. The documentary had Robert Sapolskey who talked about how when they studied the baboons in a primate society the Alpha males had the highest dopamine levels and the lowest amount of glucocorticoids, one of the main ingredients in stress. Meaning the primates with the least amount to worry about were the Alphas. A study in the UK comparing Job status(how high up the chain) demonstrated the same thing. The men highest in the company had the highest dopamine levels and lowest glucocorticoids levels. This is a great study because of the social medicine in the UK, it also was done to government workers, so it was easy to keep good records of the people. This is a huge parallel and something we can take into consideration. So what does this tell us? Those who enjoy life and have fun(increase your dopamine levels) demonstrate a higher social status then those who are rigid and show anxious body language. Be relaxed everywhere you go, it will demonstrate a higher value. So when people just say "Oh man I just don't give a shit", all that really means is loosen up and don't stress it. Every where you go be relaxed and have a good time because the Alpha male(or person with the highest status more specifically) doesn't stress it. I thought that some of those following the thread would enjoy the info.

Author:	skullring92 [ Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:29 pm ]
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thnx a zillion bud....this thread is exactly what i wanted...!! i was having some confusions in my mind abt pua and the natural game...and a lot of things...this post seems to answer them all...maybe you read my mind or something....keep 'em coming...

Author:	Kennt [ Tue Mar 29, 2011 3:06 pm ]
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such a redonkulous thread! i love the section on diction. ( i just used some) ;]

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Author:	poeticlyskuac [ Wed Mar 30, 2011 8:01 pm ]
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No trip guys, glad you are getting something out of it enjoy the information and feel free to add to it.

Author:	PeterSellers [ Tue Apr 19, 2011 11:46 pm ]
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legit thread man.

Author:	J Slay [ Thu Dec 01, 2011 2:33 am ]
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bump

Author:	AFC AzA [ Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:39 pm ]
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I'm wondering about straight face/poker face I smile often (of course not creepy and needy smile...) but some PUA dont smile often and that just messes with HB's head. Like they cant see their facial expression so they cant figure out. I'm confuced any one know any good article or topic for my question ? tnx

Author:	SilverGreen [ Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:52 am ]
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Awesome thread i believe this is the style I was born to use for pick ups, and relationships in general. Outstanding job Poetic Lol Funny note: All the time i was reading through the thread, I imagined myself being "The Man"..........but always I ended up looking like Tom Cruise xD, I guess in my book he's The Man I want to be similar to.

Author:	NoShameGame [ Thu Dec 22, 2011 4:51 pm ]
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Well said poeticlyskuac... If you beleive you have a plan, that you know where you are going, they will follow you instinctively. The direction does not matter; pick a cause, an ideal, a vision and show that you will not sway from your goal. people will imagine that your confidence comes from something real. Purposefulness is doubly charismatic in times of trouble. Since most people hesitate before taking bold action (even when action is what is required), single minded self assurance will make you the focus of attention. People will believe in you through the simple force of your character. When Franklin Delano Rossevelt came to power amidst the Depression, much of the public had little faith he could turn things around. But in his first dew month in office, he displayed such confidence, such decisiveness and clarity in dealing with the country's many problems, that the public began to see him as their savior, someone with intense charisma.

Author:	poeticlyskuac [ Sun Dec 25, 2011 4:05 am ]
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Thanks for all the love guys, I suppose I'll need to start adding some info to this thread at some point. It's been a long time.

Author:	poeticlyskuac [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:58 am ]
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Hey guys, I know I have mentioned this in this thread several times and this may seem like gloating. I am doing this partly to bump this thread.... The Importance of Building Relationships This is seriously an example of how I build relationships with the right people and how positively it can effect your life. Why learning to build rapport and comfort and becoming "The Man" can seriously improve your lifestyle. I want to say I'm not a wealthy guy, however I've built so many good relationships with the right people that I have received tons of perks. Not because I asked but because I was gracious and people simply like having me around. I want to stress I'M NOT GLOATING. Just showing you an example of how building relationships can help. So when I went to the club a couple Fridays back I went to a club I don't normally go to. I went with my Sis and she got me in free this time around for VIP. When I got there I went to a good birds eye spot, an area overlooking things. I happened to say "hi" to a near by girl just as acknowledgement. She complimented my suit(been on a serious "Suit Up!" binge, highly recommend it), and we began talking. After a few minutes of conversation, she said something a long of the lines of you are cool. She asked if I knew anyone who worked here, I said "I knew a girl but I didn't see her at the bar." She asked "who?". I said "Bla" and she said "oh she still works here she works in the corner bar" she directed me. I meandered over to Bla to say "hi" and ordered a couple whiskey cokes from the girl I knew. This is where it gets good. She hooks me up with 2 doubles(4 shots 2 drinks) for $5(not crappy whiskey either). This isn't a cheap club $10 buck entry, each drink was around $7 bucks. She hooked it up to say the least. I tipped $10 bucks and still felt good about my purchase. I wander back over, to the girl I met. She informed she was security there (figured by where she chose to stand, her body language and knowing the ins and outs of the club). She handed me a business card. She goes if you ever want in free text me your name. I had paid $15 bucks, got into a solid club($10 fee), 3 drinks from my friend($15 ish dollars), a drink from a kid I met($5), now I drink once maybe twice a month so I was feeling pretty damn good. Add about $25 worth of drinks from the bartender I was having a $50 night already and I spent only $15 for vip with a $10 tip in the mix. This was all by 11:30. I went back to the bar 4 more times each time ordering 2 whiskey cokes(I gave 2 away). She gave me 4 doubles total in there. I ended up spending a total of $80 bucks on about 17 drinks total(plus 4 more if you count the doubles), $30 was tips too. Now if you look at the cost of things like that I had a ridiculous night, around $185 night(plus tips) where I got out the door for $80 and more than half the money spent at the bar was tips. I paid this crazy girl $20 after my buddy gave away a few of her beers(I actually only spent $50 at the bar). I did pay for this girl's $10 cover for hanging with me. By the end of the night I added a new contact to my phone, so I had the club on lock down, had an expensive as hell night. I also went to eat at a restaurant where a my buddy offered to pay for dinner after I informed him I gave the crazy girl 20 bucks for the drinks he gave away that were hers(she bought a bucket of beers). This girl also got hooked up at $10 bucks off her bucket for being with me. At the end of the night I gave "Bla" a big hug and said "Thanks for the love doll." She said "anytime." Now this was the beginning. I decided to go back to the club the next week with my sis and her bf, I missed the dead line to get on the list which was sad. So I fully expected to pay for the cover, when I walked by I seen another girl I know. Said "hi" she opened the gate to the club next door inviting me in. I said "we are going next store", the clubs are owned by the same guy. She walks us over to the club next door and walks us straight up we show our ID. They stamp us free of charge and we walk in the door right past the line. Again a night of drinking and fun using the same bar tender and getting drinks at about half price(or less). In fact I went and ordered drinks to begin with and she charged me $15 bucks for 4 drinks with 2 doubles(6 total). My sister's bf went over and order drinks by himself and paid $15 without the whiskey cokes I ordered. I laughed when he said he got ripped off. This time around she charged me $10 bucks here or $5 bucks, all and all I grabbed probably 8 more drinks for another $50 bucks after tipping ridiculously( I tipped about $40 of my $80). Again another $120 night for $80 bucks plus three free entries because people I just know. At the end of the night I walk up again and thank the bartender "Bla" and we chat for a second. She smiles and says "hey come in next week. It's my birthday, I'm getting that booth(she pointed at the best booth on top in the center of the stage)." I said "Sweet I'll come buy you a drink." She responded "No, I'm getting a few bottles, come get drunk for free with me." She looked over turned around and handed me 3 VIP business cards. This to me is very ridiculous to have all these perks just simply for being who I am and loved where ever I go. While getting in isn't a big deal to a lot of clubs, you just need to know a couple of people at the club, it is awesome to get all this simply by being good to people. I just laid out this story for all of you guys to show what you guys can accomplish by using a lot of these rapport tactics and being gracious and good to people. I mean I am very gracious for everything I receive. That is why I say thank you so much. I want to say this isn't something out of the ordinary for me guys. I can get listed at 4 clubs in town. Don't need to get on the list at 2 others(just walk in). I can also walk in on any concert at one venue, and arrange for the list at another venue. This information in this thread is valuable and I don't just mean financially though it is quite noticeable how much money it can save you. It is also about how good people are to you and the social proof you gain when you get this SPAM where ever you go. You will receive so much love from people by making them happy, building connections, being gracious, and being good to people.

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