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A Sticking Point or SP is an issue you CONSISTENTLY run into.

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I keep getting LMR whenever I bring girls back to my place. This has happened at least 10 times already! What am I doing wrong?


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I got LMR with this one girl! What do I do?


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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2017 2:50 am 
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Okay guys I have been having this us sue for sometime and I think this is my problem I open a girl I'm flirtatious and stuff and everything's chill but then I lose the correct mindset cause I'm so set on not scaring her off a D building comfort that I can't transition into the sexual phase cause I'm afraid of her reaction or her thinking I'm thirsty or Idk but I feel like this is what has been holding me back even when it comes to my text game. How would you guys reccomend dealing with this and fixing it. Like when is it good to get get sexual in an encounter and how to transition into it smoothly.
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Ideally your whole persona lets the girl know in a socially calibrated way that you're a sexual being, without you saying a word.

So that there is a seamless transition from you saying "hi" to your kino to your escalation and onward. It forms an arc that she is expecting from the moment she meets you, assuming she's interested in you.

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oceanx wrote:
Ideally your whole persona lets the girl know in a socially calibrated way that you're a sexual being, without you saying a word.

So that there is a seamless transition from you saying "hi" to your kino to your escalation and onward. It forms an arc that she is expecting from the moment she meets you, assuming she's interested in you.

Hmm I like that I think I haven't been escalating physically enough it's weird like when I'm out I feel comfortable cause I don't need these girls. But when I'm at school or work I feel uncomfortable gaming the girls there Idk why maybe it's self consciousness of word getting around or something but I'm never made a move


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Taoarts wrote:
Hmm I like that I think I haven't been escalating physically enough it's weird like when I'm out I feel comfortable cause I don't need these girls. But when I'm at school or work I feel uncomfortable gaming the girls there Idk why maybe it's self consciousness of word getting around or something but I'm never made a move

You don't have to make a move in those situations aka shitting where you eat. You can talk to a woman anywhere you see her day or night, doesn't have to be in a nightclub environment. So when you see a woman, maybe she is bored, maybe she would just love for some cool guy to come talk to her RIGHT NOW. So do so.

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oceanx wrote:
Taoarts wrote:
Hmm I like that I think I haven't been escalating physically enough it's weird like when I'm out I feel comfortable cause I don't need these girls. But when I'm at school or work I feel uncomfortable gaming the girls there Idk why maybe it's self consciousness of word getting around or something but I'm never made a move

You don't have to make a move in those situations aka shitting where you eat. You can talk to a woman anywhere you see her day or night, doesn't have to be in a nightclub environment. So when you see a woman, maybe she is bored, maybe she would just love for some cool guy to come talk to her RIGHT NOW. So do so.

Yeah that's a good way to look athete but idk I'm in community college tho so I feel like that's the best place for me to meet girls but I can't get the right mindset to game there. I always worry about being that guy on the campus but realistically nobody even gives a fuck it's just hard to get into that mindset and push myself to game even though there's always good opportunities. Any tips for getting into that mindset like at school for example. Blocking those thoughts of what negative outcomes may happen or what people may think?


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If you're stuck on campus pretty much 24/7, then fine. Otherwise, get off campus and talk to women all over in the world, it's much easier, and you'll never be labeled as "that guy."

If you insist on meeting women on campus, just play it normal. Smalltalk to open doors. Be chill. Do not "run game" or "run routines" in this environment. Get nice little convos going with the girls - you both have a ton of commonalities so expand on those. Toward the end "You seem pretty cool let's keep in touch."

When "approaching," do not think of it as that at all, because it will come off in your vibe - just think of it as being a cool dude who is down to chat w/ guys and girls, nothing more than that.

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oceanx wrote:
If you're stuck on campus pretty much 24/7, then fine. Otherwise, get off campus and talk to women all over in the world, it's much easier, and you'll never be labeled as "that guy."

If you insist on meeting women on campus, just play it normal. Smalltalk to open doors. Be chill. Do not "run game" or "run routines" in this environment. Get nice little convos going with the girls - you both have a ton of commonalities so expand on those. Toward the end "You seem pretty cool let's keep in touch."

When "approaching," do not think of it as that at all, because it will come off in your vibe - just think of it as being a cool dude who is down to chat w/ guys and girls, nothing more than that.

Yeah Idk I'm there most of the time if not at work or studying at home or at the gym lol but yeah your right I think I need to just play it easy and not overdo it when it comes to viewing it as approaching and opening and etc. Thank you


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it's weird like when I'm out I feel comfortable cause I don't need these girls. But when I'm at school or work I feel uncomfortable gaming the girls there Idk why maybe it's self consciousness of word getting around or something


It's your unfounded fear of rejection among your peers. As if it would have greater sting, or somehow last longer. Some guys would rather death match Bret Heart then ask a girl out in front of acquaintances.

Truth is... nobody cares.

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Ok so you're not confined to the campus. Zero excuse then to not chat up some of the girls you see here, there and everywhere throughout your days/nights.

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I personally rarely or almost never verbalize anything sexually with a girl until after I have already slept with them or am directly about to. Its not necessary. I communicate with my body and my eyes all while discussing regular topics. I will however physically escalate at my own leisure, once enough comfort (fluff talk) has been established.

Women want to sleep with me because they find me attractive, smart, and hella interesting. And thats just something they would like to surround themselves with. And sleeping with me, or directly contributing to my life is the only way that they can do that. I don't worry about saying sexual things, or being overly sexual because its not necessary. It does work however, but anything with confidence will work.

The problem here is that you don't understand your value or what makes you attractive to the opposite sex. You're caught up in something that women aren't paying much attention to. A woman cares more about what you think of her than she does about what she thinks of you, and she cares more about what you think of yourself than she does about what she thinks about you. What she directly thinks about you is third, so long as you understand this and keep the conversation amongst the first two topics. She''ll weigh you against her own thoughts later on, but in that moment, when you're operating effectively she won't even be able to consider it.

You need to get more approaches under your belt. Try turbo approaching...Meaning, approach 5 women within the same 15 minutes. A lot of guys don't get hot, because the wait too much time before each approach. When you start knocking them out, you'll build up the momentum to close much easier.

These issues you're having will correct themselves as you get a bit more experience. Give yourself 2,000 more approaches and then come back and see if you're struggling with this still. You'll likely have moved on to the next sticking point.

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Eddie Fews wrote:
I personally rarely or almost never verbalize anything sexually with a girl until after I have already slept with them or am directly about to. Its not necessary. I communicate with my body and my eyes all while discussing regular topics. I will however physically escalate at my own leisure, once enough comfort (fluff talk) has been established.

Women want to sleep with me because they find me attractive, smart, and hella interesting. And thats just something they would like to surround themselves with. And sleeping with me, or directly contributing to my life is the only way that they can do that. I don't worry about saying sexual things, or being overly sexual because its not necessary. It does work however, but anything with confidence will work.

The problem here is that you don't understand your value or what makes you attractive to the opposite sex. You're caught up in something that women aren't paying much attention to. A woman cares more about what you think of her than she does about what she thinks of you, and she cares more about what you think of yourself than she does about what she thinks about you. What she directly thinks about you is third, so long as you understand this and keep the conversation amongst the first two topics. She''ll weigh you against her own thoughts later on, but in that moment, when you're operating effectively she won't even be able to consider it.

You need to get more approaches under your belt. Try turbo approaching...Meaning, approach 5 women within the same 15 minutes. A lot of guys don't get hot, because the wait too much time before each approach. When you start knocking them out, you'll build up the momentum to close much easier.

These issues you're having will correct themselves as you get a bit more experience. Give yourself 2,000 more approaches and then come back and see if you're struggling with this still. You'll likely have moved on to the next sticking point.

Yeah your right that sounds like how it should be happening just organically but idk everything feels forced or planned to me maybe cuz of the overthinking but because I'm always thinking about stuff like if I make a move now will she think I'm thirsty or stuff. I'm gonna try doing approaches tho out of school and just out and about from my usual places. I wanted it to happen at school because i see the finest girls like big bootys young my age but idk I always worry about things like that. And thats just the beginning stuff I worry about going back to school late cuz I'm 23 rn and not having a car and stuff. Which I know shouldn't be that big of a deal but it occurs to me. But imma try that multiple approach thing. Thanks for the feedback to all of you....much appreciated!


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It takes time to come into your own as a man and embrace your manhood, sexuality, and self confidence. You need to walk up to girls and open them without any regard for outcome. Truly not giving a fuck. But not in some reckless and sociopathic way. You need to develop a solid frame that is not effected by rejection. Whatever happens in the end doesn't matter, just talk to the girls and see what kind of vibe they give you. Half the time the girl has an actual boyfriend or is in a bad mood or you are simply not her type. That's fine, move on. The other half of the time they will at least talk to you a bit. A smaller percentage of those girls will actually be achievable if you do things right. This will be true for most guys. It's a numbers game a lot of it, but you also MUST put in the leg work and open those sets and be confident. You also need to have stuff going on in your life and be working on yourself at all times so that it shows through in your personality, body, and lifestyle.

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