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Taiden
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 Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 10:35 pm Post subject: Sticking Point: Celibacy LOL!! |
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I wish I could put this in the Sticking Point section. I logged on here and made a few posts, but have been working on my game every now and then. So far I got past a BF sticking point with one girl, and was going to F close another but got C blocked by A FRIEND before she left the state. Anyway, here's a weird one.
I got this chick going, she's a nice type chick, said to me the other day "most people aren't very lady like anymore, so i suppose someone should be" referring to herself. Comfort level with this girl is extremely high, but the other day she told me she was celibate. This really confused me as a sticking point. I heard a her friend say to her about some guy she hated "I told him you were celibate and that shut him up". I thought her friend was joking LOL, I guess not. That's why I think it might not be just a shit test.
She said she's had sex before, but she wants to share that with just one more guy. Maybe she's had bad experiences in the past and wants to make sure the next one is REALLY right to lay? Should I let this one go and LJBF it? She's the hottest girl I've ever been involved with, and is awesome company. I also sort of want to defeat this sticking point. I think I'd learn a lot. |
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Rye Lee
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| I met a girl that told me she is waiting to lose her viginity until she gets married. Doesn't mean I'm not gonna pursue, because if she becomes attracted enough to me, then she'll want me. Keep that in mind and don't bother trying to fight against it, just have fun, go as far as you can go with her, make her highly attracted and push those boundries. If she resists, then you take away, but remember when you are fooling around, not to get her off, but make it amazing anyways, so now she is begging you to finish and there's only one way you're gonna finish... |
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Taiden
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| Rye Lee wrote: | | I met a girl that told me she is waiting to lose her viginity until she gets married. Doesn't mean I'm not gonna pursue, because if she becomes attracted enough to me, then she'll want me. Keep that in mind and don't bother trying to fight against it, just have fun, go as far as you can go with her, make her highly attracted and push those boundries. If she resists, then you take away, but remember when you are fooling around, not to get her off, but make it amazing anyways, so now she is begging you to finish and there's only one way you're gonna finish... |
That's how I'm approaching the situation currently. I've noticed that she has this tendency to be increasingly touchy. I've noticed with this girl that if I prove I'm aware enough of my surroundings to protect her, she gets very physical. Example she was rocking back and forth in a chair, and i noticed she was going to fall, so when she did I was there to catch her. The first thing she did was turn to me, get very close and run her hands down my back past my waist line and remark about how I was "her protector."
I'll keep pushing the envelope and going back one step if she resists. I'll just keep doing this until she wants to get off, then I'll ask if I should get the condom. I mean, after climbing all over each other, getting her wet with all my wit, and showing the ability to protect, what girl wouldn't want to hop on my dick? |
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Rye Lee
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| Taiden wrote: | | Rye Lee wrote: | | I met a girl that told me she is waiting to lose her viginity until she gets married. Doesn't mean I'm not gonna pursue, because if she becomes attracted enough to me, then she'll want me. Keep that in mind and don't bother trying to fight against it, just have fun, go as far as you can go with her, make her highly attracted and push those boundries. If she resists, then you take away, but remember when you are fooling around, not to get her off, but make it amazing anyways, so now she is begging you to finish and there's only one way you're gonna finish... |
That's how I'm approaching the situation currently. I've noticed that she has this tendency to be increasingly touchy. I've noticed with this girl that if I prove I'm aware enough of my surroundings to protect her, she gets very physical. Example she was rocking back and forth in a chair, and i noticed she was going to fall, so when she did I was there to catch her. The first thing she did was turn to me, get very close and run her hands down my back past my waist line and remark about how I was "her protector."
I'll keep pushing the envelope and going back one step if she resists. I'll just keep doing this until she wants to get off, then I'll ask if I should get the condom. I mean, after climbing all over each other, getting her wet with all my wit, and showing the ability to protect, what girl wouldn't want to hop on my dick? |
DON'T ASK. If you ask her if you should get a condom, then you are giving her the chance to back down from what she wants to do, because of her pre-conceptions. If she wants you to stop, then when you pull out a condom and go to put it on, she'll say something and if not, then she still has the chance just before you put it in. If she wants to stop it, she has the power at any time, cause you aren't gonna force yourself on her, but don't give her that chance to get scared and back out. This is just like getting your buddy to bungee jump, skydive, or even just jump off a cliff into a lake; you give them the chance to get up there, look around, and chicken out, then they'll probably take it, so you just tell them to go and they'll thank you for it inside. |
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Mr Fahrenheit
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| WTFFFF this is sick.. Shes ever had sex before and wants to wait for a nice guy, then you swoop in wind her so tightly she is about to tsunami from between the legs then violate her against her sober mind wishes..!? |
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Rye Lee
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| Mr Fahrenheit wrote: | | WTFFFF this is sick.. Shes ever had sex before and wants to wait for a nice guy, then you swoop in wind her so tightly she is about to tsunami from between the legs then violate her against her sober mind wishes..!? |
No. READ what I said closely.
She has reservations. Just like when your buddy tells you to dive off the cliff for the first time, you have some reservations, but you want to do it. You know you'll enjoy it and you tell yourself, "One of these days, just not now." But when your buddy says, "GO! Just DO IT!" and you jump, you love it.
If she's making out with you and she likes you, you have a connection with her and she is willing to take her clothes off and exchange oral/manual sex, then she's probably willing to have full on sex, she's just afraid that it will make her a slut, or that the guy will run out on her right after. So she wants to make it special and she wants it to be safe and secure and have the guy chained to her with marriage, so there is no chance of abandonment. If you're in a relationship with her, where you aren't going to abandon her as soon as you sleep with her, you like the girl and she likes you, then you demonstrate the things you need to make her feel comfortable and then if she doesn't stop you, you have sex.
This is just an advanced form of LMR and should be handled as such. If she is truly serious about not having sex until she gets married, then she will make it clear and she won't give you the chance, because it is something she values highly. If she just has the fears I described, then when you negate those fears and she is arroused, she will have sex with you, whereas the serious girl won't. |
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sweetw1982
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| I think it would have to my mystery's advice which helped me the most with LMR. While i am building comfort I like to throw in a few weasel phrases from Ross Jeffries teachings. That usually helps building arousal (you have to actually use what he teaches, not listen to a few minutes and just say "below me" every 5 minutes") then when she apprears ready I have her help me set the mood. I tell her to light the candles or turn off the lights (depending on what is closer) By having her help to set the mood and that lessens LMR. |
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Tyler Dom
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| Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 12:45 pm Post subject: Re: Sticking Point: Celibacy LOL!! |
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| Taiden wrote: | I wish I could put this in the Sticking Point section. I logged on here and made a few posts, but have been working on my game every now and then. So far I got past a BF sticking point with one girl, and was going to F close another but got C blocked by A FRIEND before she left the state. Anyway, here's a weird one.
I got this chick going, she's a nice type chick, said to me the other day "most people aren't very lady like anymore, so i suppose someone should be" referring to herself. Comfort level with this girl is extremely high, but the other day she told me she was celibate. This really confused me as a sticking point. I heard a her friend say to her about some guy she hated "I told him you were celibate and that shut him up". I thought her friend was joking LOL, I guess not. That's why I think it might not be just a shit test.
She said she's had sex before, but she wants to share that with just one more guy. Maybe she's had bad experiences in the past and wants to make sure the next one is REALLY right to lay? Should I let this one go and LJBF it? She's the hottest girl I've ever been involved with, and is awesome company. I also sort of want to defeat this sticking point. I think I'd learn a lot. |
I would keep trying, if you want a relationship for life!
If you what hot passionate animal sex, with even a swift kick in the spin and all, cut your losses. |
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