So, how do i come up with a routine? what do you guys do? just come up with a neg, then some dhv spikes and a little push pull at the end? or something like that? or is there some kind of specific order that things need to be done in? thanks for all your help guys.

Don't worry about the negs. That's too dangerous. Just start with an opener that gets your foot in the door. Then have several topics of discussion that you can fall back on if the natural flow of the conversation becomes boring.

Yes, throw in some DHV along the way. One good trick on that is to tell her that the reason you are wherever you guys are at it is because (insert DHV here). For instance: "I don't usually come to this club but my buddy knows the owner."

Then have a closing strategy in mind with a closing objective. This means that you'll need to start implementing kino and go for a k-close, n-close, insta-date, or f-close. Know where you want to take her next, whether it's to another bar or club, a diner, your buddies crib, or your place. If you have a solid structure to your routine from A to Z, then it will be much easier for you to close.

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have a story lined up. try it. if it hits... cool. if it doesn't work, fix where it went sour. make sure your DHV stories don't sound like bragging and base your negs off of your targets response. trial and error brotha. thats the best way to do it.

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Me and my wings have a nice exercise, for example: My friend tell me to look to a direction that he chose for 3 seconds, and when I back to look at him I need to create a routine with something that I saw on these 3 seconds. It's simple but helps a lot.

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Everytime that I finish my job, I like to think that she don't had chance since the beginning.

I am defiantly going to try this out tomorrow when I go out. I need to work on building my own routines and things of that sort.

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