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AFC2PUA
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 12:43 am    Post subject: Shit test right away Reply with quote

aaah i opened 2 chicks on the street as i was walking by
womens perspective etc,
set my false time restraint
didn't face them with my body language
spoke confidently
one of the girls starts to giggle
then the other one just straight up says "i dont talk to stalkers" then walks away and the other girl didn't know what to do so she followed.

was this a shit test? i didn't know what to do at the time cause its never happened to me before.
but i guess i should have said something like " well you'll have no trouble talking to me then" or "said to her friend "is she always like this"

anyway i said "ouch...ok then...." and walked off
then 5 mins later i see her at the bus stop and she gives me a kind of aggressive "hey" with a condescending stare as she walks by me.

then i said back to her "i wouldn't have approached you if i knew you were immature"

and yeah thats it

is there maybe another way i could have handled this.. or did i do anything wrong?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Negs are a powerfull tool. Even against PUA's. Trained in the art of negging & seduction when one gets thrown back at us it sometimes catches you of gaurd. Sometimes even more so with PUA's, because we feel we have THE POWER OF THE NEG! It's like thinking your the only Jedi and then realiseing your talking to Yoda. But really everyone has the power to Neg & pretty much everyone uses it. It's just that some (like us) are aware of it & some aren't. Being aware of it is a good as long as you are aware that girls can Neg back.

What she did is Neg you infornt of her friend therefore devaluing you. Even tho' the girl you were talking to was probably enjoying the conversation & not thinking your a stalker at all, when her friend made such a statement she will automaticaly re-evaluate you according to her friends opinion. Basicaly her friend is leading the Girl in the direction she wants her to go. You need to take back control of the situation and the lead the girl your way. What i would do is Neg her rite back but not to her, to the Girl YOU are talking too.

" WOW, she's a bit judgemental isn't she? Is she always like this?"

This way you have bounced back. You have done the exact same thing she did to you. So tho' her friend has made her re-evaluate you, by doing this you have made the girl re-evaluate HER evaluations of you, & also re-evaluate her friends opinion;

"Wait a minute mabey she is over reacting. That was a bit harsh, we only just met the guy."

Think of it as a Tug-Of-War. In fact i think that's what i'll call it. The girl's in the middle, your on one side & the friends on the other. When she pulls to lead the girl in one direction, pull rite back in your direction.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DoK has the right idea. Another come back would be, "what have you got against stalkers?" Said with a smile. Then to the one who's still there, "that does it, I'm not inviting her to the next stalker party."

Have fun with the neg, and turn it around. Jedi tactics, these are. Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 5:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ya a quick reply would have been the right thing to do. I would have acted surprised and insulted, but spoken in a cocky funny way to make sure the target was still relaxed. but she followd her friend, and chaseing is out of the question, so after that there really wasnt much of a chance to recover, other than breaking through that ice that her friend shades herself with, used her own hostility against her, find out why she'd been so aggressive.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 3:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks guys, i've definitely learned from this mistake.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm guessing going caveman would have been the wrong tactic to handle the situation.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 7:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its hard though to think of stuff to say when you're in the situation, its only after that, you know what to say. I guess it comes with heaps of practice.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, dude, major Bitch Shield action!

Let's see, I know I'm not in the heat of the moment so it's much easier for me to think of a comeback...

I might have said something like: Well my mother told me that too...when I was 8. But you know what? All the friends I've got used to be strangers at one time. Your friend here seems like she knows how to be nice, but don't you try it because you might pull a muscle!(this last bit I would say with a smirk/smile. I rehashed that last part from White_Rose's Lay report that I read today...he has some great responses to shit tests he was given...I suggest you check it out!)

I also agree with DoK in his advice to neg the girl by talking to her friend. That would be a great way to go about it as well.

By the way, the whole time I would have been trying SO hard not to say "Oh really? Well I've got tons of candy and puppies in my van around the corner! Come with me!" hahaha.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OORRRRR you ever seen fucking FOrest Gump!?!?!!? when he cant get on the bus could have been like well in that case i am AFC2PUA whatever whats ur name handshake routine bing . . . right back with ur game
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

..

My reply to:

Quote:
"i dont talk to stalkers"


would be:

Quote:
Are you giving me advice, cause my mom told me to say the exact same thing... You kind'a look like her too
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 2:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

HB - I dont talk to stalkers

Don't stalkers usually never talk to their victims?

no

then you need some manners when talking to strangers
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 2:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

HB - I dont talk to stalkers

Don't stalkers usually never talk to their victims?

no

then you need some manners when talking to strangers
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 3:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

HB - I dont talk to stalkers

Don't stalkers usually never talk to their victims?

no

then you need some manners when talking to strangers
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Muse wrote:
Wow, dude, major Bitch Shield action!

Let's see, I know I'm not in the heat of the moment so it's much easier for me to think of a comeback...

I might have said something like: Well my mother told me that too...when I was 8. But you know what? All the friends I've got used to be strangers at one time. Your friend here seems like she knows how to be nice, but don't you try it because you might pull a muscle!(this last bit I would say with a smirk/smile. I rehashed that last part from White_Rose's Lay report that I read today...he has some great responses to shit tests he was given...I suggest you check it out!)

I also agree with DoK in his advice to neg the girl by talking to her friend. That would be a great way to go about it as well.

By the way, the whole time I would have been trying SO hard not to say "Oh really? Well I've got tons of candy and puppies in my van around the corner! Come with me!" hahaha.



hahahha nice one!
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i dont talk to stalkers
bad luck man
dok had the right idea neg her down a couple of pegs except i don't think she negged you that was a staight up insult

who knows maybe she a man hating women loving bitch at least thats what im imagining hottt
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