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 Post subject: Re: The 4-Strike Rule
PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 11:39 am 
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 Post subject: Re: The 4-Strike Rule
PostPosted: Sun Jul 09, 2017 5:25 pm 
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No man with his priorities straight and a lot of sexual options would waste this much time on one chick.


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 Post subject: Re: The 4-Strike Rule
PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 4:38 am 
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pumpington wrote:
I think this is great advice for guys who are starting out and suck at reading social cues. If I had cancer for every time someone sent me a PM about a situation where a girl is OBVIOUSLY not interested, or OBVIOUSLY interested and the guy is 100% oblivious and either wants to continue in spite of obvious rejection or simply left a keen girl to go home and flick the bean... well I'd probably die of aids.

Guys who ''don't know what to say'' or think of an approach as a win or lose situation that is absolute can learn some things from adopting this for a while and experimenting with it. Assuming autism is not involved here, doing this can help men with a lack of experience learn to properly distinguish social cues. Go in awkwardly and piss enough women off trying to talk to them 4x when they hate you, and it will become pretty clear to you pretty fast different re-occurring patterns and body language that comes along with a girl that just wants you to fuck off.

By this same token, go in 4x, enough times and get to see a few bitchy girls in a bad mood or busy, flip like a pancake because something put them in a better mood or they realized they were acting like a sociopath. This type of thing can happen with trying to move forward as well, if you get stuffed a few times and just end up being the male equivalent of a friendly cool fat chick that wants the D, it can work out from time to time and men can learn to properly see when they are making women uncomfortable through body language and when they are coming on too strong, by trying over and over, with the obvious blowouts teaching them where they really fucked up.

As for if this is some sort of masterful technique, I'm fairly skeptical, from my point of view once you know what you're doing it is almost immediately obvious if you can make it work or not. That's the thing though, just because it's obvious to me that a girl likes/hates me, doesn't mean some 18 year old kid fresh out of school trying to figure out how dating works is going to even have half a clue as to when he's wasting his time or when there is something there to work with.


So your saying guys with autism shouldnt do pick up?


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 Post subject: Re: The 4-Strike Rule
PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 8:18 am 
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DONJAYROCK wrote:
So your saying guys with autism shouldnt do pick up?

No, guys with autism should simply not attempt this type of learning style, trying to learn by throwing mud at a wall to see what sticks over time is probably not a very viable option for people that are on the spectrum as they tend to have difficulty noticing where the mud is.

Other options such as very specific ''systems'' for pickup would be better to practice that include very specific guidelines into what to say/do, what to look for in body language would be more beneficial for people with autism to try to compensate for a lack of ability in reading body language/facial cues naturally.

Everyone is different, and there are varying levels of autism, but someone who is not functional is likely not going to learn anything by simply going after a girl four times because that's the whole issue with autism to begin with, the trouble differentiating and obtaining proper meaning from social cues.


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 Post subject: Re: The 4-Strike Rule
PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 3:15 pm 
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I probably should have been more specific and offered further context: I am not saying that you have to do this on every single approach. I am just illustrating that oftentimes guys give up too early, and that girls can completely flip their minds if you put in some time with them.

So for guys who are learning, knowing that you're "allowed" to re-engage up to 3 more times can give them that extra edge and teach them not to give up too early.

Especially if they REALLY like a girl or they are super attracted to her, it is good for them to know they did everything they could before walking away, and I've seen too many girls fall under the spell of persistence to know that this can make amazing things happen.


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For those who are shooting down the idea of the 4-strike rule, I advise noobs not to take those objections hook, line and sinker. Try the idea out infield at least a dozen times. If it works for you, that is all that matters.

See this is great advice. What works for someone might not work for someone else. And the people criticizing this have not yet field-tested it, so that is literally the only way to know for sure whether something will benefit you or not. All I can say is, one of the best cold-approach PUAs suggested this to me and when I started to incorporate I got laid more often.


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 Post subject: Re: The 4-Strike Rule
PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:02 pm 
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What if you're not interested in someone that's going to make you put in that much work?
Personally I find that amount of effort to be exhausting and one sided. When I've done all the work in a conversation or just getting to know someone I tend to feel a bit of resentment and am no longer interested in them.

Also I do not like to beg or irritate others and I hate when others don't understand that I only wish to say no once and no more than that. I'm also not interested in starting anything at all with someone when I had to ask 4 times in a row for it to happen.

I have done this in the past and it's just a very awkward scenario afterwards when it does work. When it doesn't work there's often public shaming e.g. I met a girl at a bar and she wasn't interested, so I didn't say anything while we were are the bar again. I see her at the bar a 2nd time and I go for it again and she brushes me off rudely a 2nd time. I just forget about her. The 3rd time I run into her when I say hello and make an attempt to talk to her she loudly exclaims "TAKE A HINT CREEP!! I'M NOT INTERESTED IN YOU!" loud enough that everyone around could hear.


On the other hand, I've talked to girls and told them I was interested and they said they weren't or they had a boyfriend and then I just never ever bring it up again for the entirety of the time I know them. When I don't bring it up again, ever, they sometimes bring it up and hint about how I used to be interested in them and mention they're single or whatever. I still don't bother to say anything. This often leads to them saying something along those lines, which is what I prefer in the first place.



If you're fine with asking someone the same shit 4 times in a row, good for you. Personally I am not. I've tried it before and had it work even and it just leaves an intense feeling of resentment and I lose interest REAL FUCKING FAST if I had to do ALL the work to get this to work. I often bail out before I even get laid, cause I just don't fuckign care anymore e.g. I met this girl on Plenty of fish and we start texting back and forth and I asked if she wanted to hang out [1]. She says no and says she wants to get to know me more and see what I'm all about.

We talk a bit more and then things get pretty sexual and I asked if she wanted to hang out [2] and she says she doesn't know me well enough and needs to get to know me more.

We talk more and more and things get even more sexual and I ask if she wanted to meet up sometime and hang out [3] she says she can't cause she's busy but she'd like to sometime. Well, she was fake busy... cause she starts posting about hanging out with her friends on facebook....

We talk a bit more and mostly about sex and I ask if she wants to hang out [4] she says yes and says she wants to come over to my house and asks for the address. I give her the address. She's texting me some raunchy shit and saying she wants to fuck my brains out. I'm annoyed that I had to ask 4 fucking times to hang out and a bit irritated she was pretend busy last time.

She arrives and the guard calls up to ask if it's okay if she comes into the building. I've had time to think about it and be a bit annoyed. I say, no, tell her I'm busy and something came up. I never spoke to her again. I blocked her number... I was pretty fucking irritated I had to ask 4 times for her to come over and she never made any effort to ask me if I wanted to hang out. Plus she never texted me out of the blue, she only texted if she was responding to a text I sent. All of this irritated the fuck out of me, so I cut her off.

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