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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2016 11:58 am 
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Anyone considered trying this? Because I swear Tyler I think it was? Said NEVER give the girls your number, always take thiers..
Seems to logically make sense, give them your number like you don't give a shit if you see them again, plus if they so reconnect, they're gonna be in chase role

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2016 2:33 pm 
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I have no idea what you talking about because you need to elaborate. I am guessing from context.

Well I've heard it said that if your building the right connection she'll suggest giving you her number. I have been trying to use this challenge as an experiment to see if my connections are strong. So far I have determined that you have to have a good leading routine to get her to think about it. I usually have my phone in my hand and then say, "It's nice getting to know you, we should continue this, how can I reach you?" or "we should do this again." Then I raise my phone a bit like a magic wand. Otherwise I worry about forcing the number close and getting bad or flaky digits. If I make a bad connection they say something like, "Oh we are always out, we will be at XYZ place Tuesday night at 7pm." That sounds like a date to me, but it's not ideal.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2016 4:11 pm 
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Always be in control and take her number.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2016 4:57 pm 
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NaturalDec wrote:
Always be in control and take her number.


Yeah, if you give her your number she isn't going to call / text. You might make her day as her friends laugh about it. If she does text it's going to be awkward. It's just one of those unwritten rules.

*Text comes in*
Her: Hi!
You: Who is this?
Her: It's Sarah... :cry: why don't you remember me?
You: Uh, I'm a player, I know two Sarahs.
Her: Oh.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 1:06 am 
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Take the number, you're not a real estate agent giving out business cards.

Your application of "pull marketing" makes no sense here, take the number and take control of the situation.

Why would you give out your number so easily, anyway? I don't see how this is a DHV, either way you flip-it.

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AlexanderTG wrote:
Anyone considered trying this? Because I swear Tyler I think it was? Said NEVER give the girls your number, always take thiers..
Seems to logically make sense, give them your number like you don't give a shit if you see them again, plus if they so reconnect, they're gonna be in chase role

Thoughts?


How about YOU consider trying this?

Thats the single thing holding most of you back: lack of action and too much thinking. You can either read a theory online, search for more thoughts on it, post a question on a forum, get most guys to say no...then you comment with "Ok thanks guys I wont try it"...or you can read a theory online, think "hmm, let me go try this" then head to the nearby mall, do some approaches and give your number to chicks and see. The 2nd way, ie you TRYING something yourself, gets you more experience meeting women. I mean, whats the harm in trying something out?


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 3:53 am 
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neo87 wrote:
AlexanderTG wrote:
Anyone considered trying this? Because I swear Tyler I think it was? Said NEVER give the girls your number, always take thiers..
Seems to logically make sense, give them your number like you don't give a shit if you see them again, plus if they so reconnect, they're gonna be in chase role

Thoughts?


How about YOU consider trying this?

Thats the single thing holding most of you back: lack of action and too much thinking. You can either read a theory online, search for more thoughts on it, post a question on a forum, get most guys to say no...then you comment with "Ok thanks guys I wont try it"...or you can read a theory online, think "hmm, let me go try this" then head to the nearby mall, do some approaches and give your number to chicks and see. The 2nd way, ie you TRYING something yourself, gets you more experience meeting women. I mean, whats the harm in trying something out?


Well I don't see why this wouldn't work? Like I said it seems less chasey this way.. Plus she's not gonna message you with "hi" the same way we wouldn't start a convo like that.. Plus if you've made a good impression as a confidant dude she should want to message and it should happen relatively quickly.. I guess this really would depend on how much of an impression you can make but at least if she does hit you back, you know it's on or bare minimum, you've piqued her curiosity..

I just wasn't sure why this golden rule exists? And until I heard this Brent guy talking about it, I didn't really think about it... I'd just never heard of him and wasn't sure if he was full of shit or not


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AlexanderTG wrote:
neo87 wrote:
AlexanderTG wrote:
Anyone considered trying this? Because I swear Tyler I think it was? Said NEVER give the girls your number, always take thiers..
Seems to logically make sense, give them your number like you don't give a shit if you see them again, plus if they so reconnect, they're gonna be in chase role

Thoughts?


How about YOU consider trying this?

Thats the single thing holding most of you back: lack of action and too much thinking. You can either read a theory online, search for more thoughts on it, post a question on a forum, get most guys to say no...then you comment with "Ok thanks guys I wont try it"...or you can read a theory online, think "hmm, let me go try this" then head to the nearby mall, do some approaches and give your number to chicks and see. The 2nd way, ie you TRYING something yourself, gets you more experience meeting women. I mean, whats the harm in trying something out?


Well I don't see why this wouldn't work? Like I said it seems less chasey this way.. Plus she's not gonna message you with "hi" the same way we wouldn't start a convo like that.. Plus if you've made a good impression as a confidant dude she should want to message and it should happen relatively quickly.. I guess this really would depend on how much of an impression you can make but at least if she does hit you back, you know it's on or bare minimum, you've piqued her curiosity..

I just wasn't sure why this golden rule exists? And until I heard this Brent guy talking about it, I didn't really think about it... I'd just never heard of him and wasn't sure if he was full of shit or not
So are you going to try it yourself?


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:08 pm 
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It won't work because you live in a world where men have both from a historical and evolutionary standpoint been the initiators. Taking her number is a indicative of your leadership and predisposition to taking action. It's an attractive quality that generally tends to cascade into other attractive qualities.

It also won't work from a pure supply and demand standpoint. Men perceive female attractiveness in a very similar fashion, inter-culturally. Close to everyone will love a slim waist, a bubble but, ferm breasts, long feminine hair and a face to match. So a highly attractive woman is highly attractive in the US, in Europe and in India. That's not even close to being true the other way around, though.
So obviously the 'hotter' a woman is, the more in demand she is and the more plentiful supply of contenders she will have at her discretion.
Her chasing you is a consequence of your bringing to the table being better than everyone else's. And if you've got the capacity of creating that 'sweep her off her feet' effect, you won't worry about measly formalities such as 'letting her text you first'.

The only explanation for that train of thought would be that "if she does then she's clearly interested", which for one does not mean she will not be clearly uninterested within your first 5 exchanges and it also implies a lack of confidence in your own seductions skills.
If you had that confidence, or alternatively went by the idea of assuming attraction, this would be a non issue to begin with.

Finally, if she into you she will almost always respond in kind, but that doesn't mean she'll be as willing with initiating herself.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 4:33 pm 
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Your title contains the problem:

Lazy. This is the epitome of lazy.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 7:43 pm 
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It doesn't matter really, lots of guys dogmatically won't do this because of PUA theory which actually makes sense for reasons of practicality. What matters is that the girl WANTS TO SEE YOU AGAIN. How you arrange that and the reason for that want are basically semantics. The irony here being that if you give out your number or take a girls number it doesn't mean that anything will happen as a result. Additionally, if you give out your number it would require even more effort out of a girl to follow up on that in contrast to taking her number and doing the legwork yourself. This just implies the idea that if you just took her number it would result in the same thing anyways so it's sort of redundant, the main idea is just SHE WANTS TO SEE YOU AGAIN. The number or arrangement to see each other again is fairly irrelevant if the aforementioned is achieved.

You have to take that into consideration and know that just sloppily giving out your number to girls that don't know you and see no reason in ever wanting anything to do with you will result in next to nothing. It's not some magic solution to a lack of confidence or a fear of rejection. You would be more or less hoping that a girl found you so physically attractive that she was enticed purely on that alone to try to set up a date with you. Just based on cultural norms, even if she thinks your devastatingly sexy that is unlikely to happen. If you talk to a girl for a while however, and things go great and you tell her you'd like to see her again for some drinks next week or something and you give her your number or ask for hers, I think it's fairly semantical which way the exchange goes as she either wants to go or not and who has whos number is sort of irrelevant.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 5:44 am 
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[/quote]So are you going to try it yourself?[/quote]

I'll try it, and post results.. I'm only gonna do it a few times though, in case it turns out to be a dud method... Not sure I trust this Brent guy, but I do like minimum effort. Its easier lol


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:58 am 
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Giving a woman your number is a violation of human nature.

Guys need to stop trying to get guys to take the unnatural way out.

Go to the girl, bond with her naturally, she'll be ACHING to give you her #.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2016 1:40 pm 
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AlexanderTG wrote:
Anyone considered trying this? Because I swear Tyler I think it was? Said NEVER give the girls your number, always take thiers..
Seems to logically make sense, give them your number like you don't give a shit if you see them again, plus if they so reconnect, they're gonna be in chase role

Thoughts?


I'm not sure what the "lazy numbers" is - not sure if you're referring to a Brent who was interviewed by David D some time back.

Anyway, SOME girls will take your number and follow up. MOST will not, especially if they are women who already have a lot of guys chasing them. That being said, there are exceptions to the rule and if you make enough of an impression you can increase the numbers.

AS others have said, try it out, see what works. Try out giving out your number and taking theirs, and see what works.


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I think Pump has given the most concise answer of us all.

The reality is you can do well no matter how you do it. I've been lucky enough to have customers, waitresses, bartenders, and just women at the bar ask for my number and contact me. This however took building very strong rapport, sharing interests, trust, and some future pacing. I won't lie to me it felt more like getting lucky than creating my own luck which is why I prefer to get their number, just because a girl gets your number doesn't mean she'll text you.

IMO it's easier in the long run to ask for her number and to control your own destiny more as it's a lot more hit and miss when you can't simply contact them.

If you want a girl to contact you from you giving her your number you better understand how important it is to not only be different but not just be another cute guy, there are tons of attractive guys in an attractive woman's phone, how is it you're different than the rest and she should want to contact you? Your game has to be pretty good for you to get this to happen inconsistently, I can't imagine how good it has to be to have it happen consistently. I'd imagine it's a combination of physical attractiveness along with great game.

In my opinion the best combination is when you get a girl who basically want to offer her number to you or says "take my number" because they've chosen a role in the courtship process and basically said I like you, please call.

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