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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:27 am 
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Hi, so I've been doing PUA for 6 years now and have to admit that I've been quite successful, even my friends admire me and others however I know deep down my game is not good as everyone thinks. My weakest point is my verbal game, running out of things to say and being generic in conversation. It wasn't always like this I think but due to illness/ money I had to drop all my hobbies and passions( motorcycles, poker, bodybuilding and other sports, travel etc) thus I literally have nothing interesting to say.I find myself being quick witty when I'm tipsy and the girls love it but I don't want to really on alcohol. Obviously I am talking in context of night game as day game is easy if you practice it (talking aspect) but obviously you not gonna talk about same stuff that you would during the day. My lifestyle now consist of spending all day at house and only talking to people in the evening (practicing pua few days a week). All my friends now are pickup artist which I get along very easily as we have common ground but I find it hard to talk to outsiders. From the description above, you propably think im some weirdo but in reality im really cool guy( thats what they tellin me;)) is just that my life situation is quite unique . How can I fix this? I know I can pull a girl from dancefloor as I did numerous times but my talk sucks and I want to fix it

 Post subject: Re: weak verbal game
PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 1:13 pm 
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How many women do you talk to on average when you've been going out for the last 2 weeks?

Once you develop your skill set, picking up women becomes all about establishing a rhythm. It's about going out, getting social, and warming up. I usually don't know what to say either when I first pop up into a club if i hadn't talked to women yet. I'm not warmed up yet. Even professional athletes get on the court/field before the game starts to warm up. Professional performers still rehearse and come for the mic check. That's how the game goes.

One thing however is to come to grips with the quality of women you're looking for and screen the women you approach to see if they are that. You're not approaching women to get with them, you're approaching them to find out if they fit your lifestyle. It becomes about YOU, not about getting them.

Example: If you're looking for a girlfriend, you may want to find a way to get a girl to talk about her family, the kind of relationship she has with her dad, and when the last time she was in a relationship.

If you're looking for a one night stand you should be screening a girl to find out whether or not she can do it by discussing her logistics. " Where her friends are, where she lives, how often does she come out to clubs."

Guys that don't know what to talk about usually just have no direction. They have no goal. They're just going out haphazardly hoping for the best. Get some structure. Figure out what it is you want, and then talk to a woman to see whether or not they are that.

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 Post subject: Re: weak verbal game
PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 8:06 pm 
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Look up stuff about being a better conversationalist. Put in work on that project.

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 Post subject: Re: weak verbal game
PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 1:24 am 

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Have you tried working on your non verbals? Things like learning to use your smile and eye contact when talking, emphasizing points and jokes with touch in flirty suggestive non invasive ways.

If you don't have interesting hobbies or are not a strong conversationalist, why don't you simply attempt to apply yourself in creating a strength to support your weakness, try to do more with less talking and put the pressure on the girl to contribute and hold court, listen to her (actually listen, don't just wait for her to stop talking so you can talk about yourself, connect with her on what she says), validate her when she gives good feedback.

You may find after a while if you practice this instead of worrying about what to say, all you have to do is find a girl who is into you and you can both sit there and say relatively nothing, as long as you're comfortable with silence and just being around someone who you like and it's understood the feeling of validation is mutual then you don't really need to be talking and filling the dead air at all times. That security with the silence gives you a great tool, you can find comfort in the sexual tension and ramp it up a bit to watch the girl get nervous and scramble to fill the dead air to qualify her self, instead of getting nervous and trying to do it yourself. Just stay as cool and relaxed as you possibly can, be clear on what your intentions are and just consider it a matter of time, fish for things you like about her, let her know when you find them, be warm but also willing to walk away and most of all, give her a chance to talk and LISTEN to what she says and use it.

When you try to be high energy it leads to a frantic antagonistic pace where you're in a state of constantly needing to come up with something witty/interesting or busting balls back and fourth, this is stimulating and fun, it also makes it easier to open because people like that boost, but typically rapport and seduction won't happen when your energy is at a 10, you gotta slow it down, cool off a bit, stop trying to be funny or interesting and just relax and let the girl try to do that. Seduction happens when you can both relax and get close to each other and find a way to connect and trust, stop trying to find a way to impress, it's needy, instead find a way to be impressed and willing to give permission and direction for why you two can move forward as a result of you being impressed.

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