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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 3:32 pm 
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Can you transcribe your dialogue in Portuguese? I'm Brazilian too but I have no idea what you're talking about here.

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"So what do you have to offer besides that angel face" (in portuguese would have double meaning - cute face + nice girl in a sexy way).


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 4:26 pm 
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How many times have you actually gotten laid or had meaninful interaction with a woman? Approach numbers don't matter unless you get "success." Approach 400 times and 0 lays would make it clear there was something wrong with your methods.

You are way over invested and complimenting girls looks immediately doesn't work well in the real world either. For me, things go wayyyyyy better when I'm being casual and not that interested at first. There is a reason this is sexy, it's because it sends a message subliminally that you have options. The subliminal message behind yours is "hello, I'm desperate and horny and just want to bang you based on looks without getting to know you or investing any time."

Then your follow ups were awful because they were condescending and you sound angry... you need to be more ambivalent, non-chalant and fun...


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 10:38 pm 
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How many times have you actually gotten laid or had meaninful interaction with a woman? Approach numbers don't matter unless you get "success." Approach 400 times and 0 lays would make it clear there was something wrong with your methods.

You are way over invested and complimenting girls looks immediately doesn't work well in the real world either. For me, things go wayyyyyy better when I'm being casual and not that interested at first. There is a reason this is sexy, it's because it sends a message subliminally that you have options. The subliminal message behind yours is "hello, I'm desperate and horny and just want to bang you based on looks without getting to know you or investing any time."

Then your follow ups were awful because they were condescending and you sound angry... you need to be more ambivalent, non-chalant and fun...


Yeah, i'm still creating that personality. Requires energy and lust for the woman to do that stuff. I guess i'm just not into it enough most of the time.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:26 pm 
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BrasilianPatriot wrote:
Started using tinder. Got like 25 matches. Sent my ctrl c +ctrl v opener "So what do you have to offer besides that angel face" (in portuguese would have double meaning - cute face + nice girl in a sexy way).

Like 13 didn't answer. Like 5 answered something like "looooooool" "lmao" or wtf emojis. To which I answered "you're totally too nice for me".

My profile message and photos are super direct.
"Tired of boring, lame guys? Match me.
I don't waste time. We'll go out, have some fun, and see how it goes from there.
Don't match if you can't take it"
(Inspired by nayyar.6 online-sarging/case-study-how-get-laid-tinder-pics-proof-vt199856.html)

The ones who answer get into some 2-3 message "banter" with me, to which I just go and say "so what does this angel like doing?" "I need to know before setting up the meet" and then they flake. Only one gave me her Watsapp, where I talked like 6-7 messages with her and set up a meet - flake.

Tinder seems like it's only for attention. They do not have any interest in meeting up.


Making a girl, who doesn't know you or any girl for that matter, need to prove herself to you is a really bad approach that sadly a lot of trainers teach you to do. Most of the time the response you will get is what you have gotten so far and that is a girl knowing that she doesn't need to prove herself to you. A better approach is to say something light-hearted and fun asking a simple question. My go to is a stupid compliment that people don't usually compliment and essentially asking how her day is going. Your goal is to make her feel good and happy when talking to you as that is how people get addicted to you, literally.

I have a background in psychology and in order to get people to like you, get addicted to you, they need to be happy every time they see or talk to you. They then start putting the feeling of happiness and love on you so you become happier and since people always want to be happy, they will always want you.

The last thing, stop calling them angels and stop complimenting them on things every guy is complimenting them on. Compliment her in a weird and unusual way. This will make her laugh and she will start associating laughter and happiness with you from the first message.

Feel free to PM me with any further questions and I will get back to you as fast as I can if I am online.

Hope this helps!

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:30 pm 
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BrasilianPatriot wrote:
masterm1ne wrote:
How many times have you actually gotten laid or had meaninful interaction with a woman? Approach numbers don't matter unless you get "success." Approach 400 times and 0 lays would make it clear there was something wrong with your methods.

You are way over invested and complimenting girls looks immediately doesn't work well in the real world either. For me, things go wayyyyyy better when I'm being casual and not that interested at first. There is a reason this is sexy, it's because it sends a message subliminally that you have options. The subliminal message behind yours is "hello, I'm desperate and horny and just want to bang you based on looks without getting to know you or investing any time."

Then your follow ups were awful because they were condescending and you sound angry... you need to be more ambivalent, non-chalant and fun...


Yeah, i'm still creating that personality. Requires energy and lust for the woman to do that stuff. I guess i'm just not into it enough most of the time.


One more thing, please don't change your personality for women. You will only be miserable in the end. You need to find women who like you for your personality as you are the only person you are good at being. Talking differently and wording things differently doesn't change who you are. You are good enough as you are and your personality does not need to change. Just realizing that and taking that to heart will increase your confidence and make women want you more. Women want a confident guy who acts like themselves. They can sense if you are trying to be who you think they want you to be. Be confident with who you are and the women will start rolling in.

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