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Yeah, I'd say, based on the limited information provided, that was part of it. The better you are in bed, the faster they fall for you.
However, the OP still had opportunities.
Where things really went south was the phone call and "speaking his needs". That's not a lie. She went from hanging out, to not.
First, speaking his needs had nothing to do with texting her this dramatic message ending with "take care if you don't." Even Void said over and over, this is not a CONFRONTATIONAL thing. No one here advised nor supports the way OP went about it.
Second, check the flow of the exchange. OP sends his message (which again no one advised), and when they talk, she FIRST goes into we shouldnt have sex. Now, a chick isnt going from I like this guy and fucking him, to lets not have sex 5 minutes after a message. As much as I dislike OP's 1 text, I cant say its likely she created this UNRELATED "I feel like you just want sex" thing from that. To kill that point, here's an example.
Say you and I are friends in the same city and all that. One day I text you a weird fucked up message about how this friendship isnt going well. You call me, and say "yeah, I think we shouldnt hang out as much because you use me for money" which is something you just told me the other day. Now, I'd be stupid to think that this wasnt something you were thinking about, ESPECIALLY as you had confronted me about it the other day. Should I think, oh, he just said that because of what I said. Well maybe you brought it up because of my unrelated message to money, but obviously you were thinking that and going there.
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This is bad advice. Keeping 9's and 10's in your life is an organic process, and Neo is framing it in a very impatient, needy way. Should the OP bring a clipboard with 20 questions on it so he makes sure the woman is "perfect" for him? LOL. Ummm....not how it works.
Attraction is not a choice. You don't choose who blows you away. There will always be imperfections, and most of the time two people have to grow into each other.
Lol, Arch...whats more ORGANIC that what I said? Whats more ORGANIC than not playing games, and being open? See, Arch words matter. And if you cant use organic with playing games, and these tactics.
Honesty and no games. Theres a word for that. Its ORGANIC. "Letting her bring up something" and "not saying what you like/dislike" thats not organic. I'm not even for rules when it comes to who does what. But you are. And thats not organic, by the definition. You do get the hypocrisy in saying let things be organic and then "Never XYZ" right?
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He followed that advice, and got friend-zoned. So why do you continually advise it?
The "place it comes from" line of PUA advice is such a lame cliche. It means nothing. It's a worthless platitude.
Again, he followed no advice here. If I tell you "hey dont be afraid to tell your boss what you wont like" and you walk into his office, punch him and walk out and get fired...is that you followed my advice and got fired? No.
That's the thing...you pedestal these chicks. "He got friendzoned." And what? You care too much about whether a chick friendzones someone or dumps someone because they were honest. If this chick had told OP, he's a loser and never contacted him again, I wont care. Because I dont want OP to get this chick for the sake of it. I want him to find someone he doesnt have to be afraid of.
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No, that's an ABUNDANCE mentality. It's the mentality of a man who doesn't need a woman to make him happy, because he makes himself happy.
Somehow you miss where N2 and others said, enjoy yourself and be happy with yourself and all that stuff right? "Dont make a woman complete you" or something along those lines.
Again, words matter. All those rules of "never do this" or "let her do this"...thats not abundance. When you have an abundance of something, you're not saying "I cant do X", you just do it. She leaves so what. She dumps you so what. The same guy who is hiking and fishing and has those chicks blowing up his phone, if he thinks "I cant do XYZ because she may leave"....thats just SCARCITY with a bunch of chicks. Abundance doesnt go hand in hand with games or being afraid to express yourself. Your rules, of what should and shouldnt be done, even the very language like "KEEP"...thats not abundance. It means you do what you want, when you want, fuck her if she leaves or dumps you. If you cant do what you want, or find yourself following her lead, thats scarcity.
Abundance isnt "i have alot of girls liking me, but I cant do this or that or they'll leave...thats what 9's and 10's do." Its " I have chicks liking me, I do what I want and the chicks who like me can stay and the others leave." Abundance isnt about whether a chick is a 10 or a 2 affect what you do. And no, before you even go there, its not about bringing a clipboard to dates. Letting things truly organically unfold and having A.M means you say what you think in the moment, good or bad. No games because you're enough. And if you're thinking "it doesnt work like that"...fine, but you're living in scarcity...because you (not you directly Arch) know if you were yourself chicks would leave.