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Hi everyone!

I am new here...AFC, and seeking advice on a project of sorts at work.

I work a Corporate Job where there is NO opportunity at all to meet women, so I took a 2nd job at a restaurant as a host in large part to meet women.

I have a thing ongoing with a hostess, but it has sort of died down.

Being an AFC I made mistakes early (Before I started reading "The Game"), I got her to come have drinks with me after work and paid for her drinks. Nothing happened.

We continued to flirt at work, and text. I made my 2nd HUGE error haha, and accidentally sent her the screenshot of our own conversation that I was trying to send to a friend for advice haha. I recovered as well as I could when she asked why I had sent her a picture of our own conversation by telling her "Sorry I meant to send you a dick pic, and I sent the wrong screenshot haha"...she laughed and the conversation got much more sexual and interesting.

I then met her before a shift and mistakenly paid for her drinks AGAIN...again pre-"The Game". I kissed her in the car before our shift, and we've been stalled ever since. Still flirting, but never progressing to another date/meet up. All talk...like saying that she wouldn't mind I sent her a dick pic, etc.

She's either backed out of attempted hang outs, or not accepted my invitations for her to meet up with friends of mine when we are out...and still texts me with annoying "How is work?", "How is your day?" type texts. Finally the other night I had had enough.

Texts me midnight after her shift on a Saturday:

Her: What's up
Me: Nothing, you?
Her: Home. How was work
Me: (NO RESPONSE AT ALL...I knew it was going nowhere as it had before)
Her (after 40 minutes of me not responding) "ok"

I never responded, and the next day saw her at work. I acted happy to see her, but didn't give her the attention and "petting" I normally do at work. I did the whole turning the back/body positioning trick that I have been reading about in "The Game", and she is walking in circles at the host stand in our restaurant trying to stay in front of me and keep my attention...She can tell that I'm not fully engaging her at it's driving her nuts. My buddies even came to work to see me, and I didn't introduce them to her until she came over. It was so funny to see this technique work for the first time, and make her scurry around in circles lol. I laughed to myself when she left...couldn't help it. It was quite amusing.

So now I need advice on how to close the deal with her.

Any suggestions?

Much appreciated!


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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2017 4:52 pm 
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Her: What's up
Me: Nothing, you?


Her: What's up
You: My dick is! It was thinking about you!

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Heywood Jablowme wrote:
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Her: What's up
Me: Nothing, you?


Her: What's up
You: My dick is! It was thinking about you!


LOL. I like that.


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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2017 6:58 pm 
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So you took a hostest job just to meet the few women that are going to be coming in and out over using that free time to go to places with hundreds of more options of women you could approach? Perhaps you can break down the logic there for me...

Second.. buying drinks isn't going to determine whether you get laid or you don't. It's the attitude of the guy that "doesn't buy drinks" that gets him laid, not the physical gesture of buying drinks. You can have that same attitude, still buy drinks, and still get laid.

At this moment you're positing yourself as the "work boyfriend". Just someone she sees and flirts with from time to time because you two work together. And you've resorted to playing petty highschool "withdrawn attention" games instead of taking the bull by the horns and going after what you want. The right guy is going to show up to the spot, grab her number, invite her out, a fuck her if you don't get it together. Kissing is all that happened because kissing is all you had the self confidence and certainty to go after. If you have the overwelhming confidence, to lead, direct, and go for more, more would have happened.

If I were you, I would drop the girl, and the job unless you need the money and spend that time racking up on my approach expirience. "The game" is outdated. There are far more quality literary sources on the topic you could learn from. I'd personally put my book against anyones. But there's many others as well.

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Hawky wrote:
Her: What's up
You: My dick is! It was thinking about you!

LOL. I like that.


You need to show sexual interest in this girl before she gets bored. Remember how it got interesting after the dick pic joke?

Ask her if she can cook. Get her to your place for steak drinks and Netflix.

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I think you need to continue your educaiton in closing first. Just as you used your 'body positioning trick' to affect her, you have to use other 'tricks' in order to 'close.' It gets much better when you pratice it in real life - As others pointed out, the main failure here is escalation. If I were a gay man, I'd have no idea you were actually interesting in getting inside me.

When I am with a woman that I am attracted to, I make it extremely clear that I am by engaging sexually in every way possible - lips, hair, body, boobs, legs, conversation.

Do you see where you're lacking? You need to get her into a comfortable locaiton where you can convey your interest otherwise someone else will beat you to it!


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Eddie Fews wrote:
So you took a hostest job just to meet the few women that are going to be coming in and out over using that free time to go to places with hundreds of more options of women you could approach? Perhaps you can break down the logic there for me...

Exactly. The permission/excuse you need to speak to a woman is the fact that she's there. That's it.

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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2017 6:21 pm 
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Eddie Fews wrote:
So you took a hostest job just to meet the few women that are going to be coming in and out over using that free time to go to places with hundreds of more options of women you could approach? Perhaps you can break down the logic there for me...

Second.. buying drinks isn't going to determine whether you get laid or you don't. It's the attitude of the guy that "doesn't buy drinks" that gets him laid, not the physical gesture of buying drinks. You can have that same attitude, still buy drinks, and still get laid.

At this moment you're positing yourself as the "work boyfriend". Just someone she sees and flirts with from time to time because you two work together. And you've resorted to playing petty highschool "withdrawn attention" games instead of taking the bull by the horns and going after what you want. The right guy is going to show up to the spot, grab her number, invite her out, a fuck her if you don't get it together. Kissing is all that happened because kissing is all you had the self confidence and certainty to go after. If you have the overwelhming confidence, to lead, direct, and go for more, more would have happened.

If I were you, I would drop the girl, and the job unless you need the money and spend that time racking up on my approach expirience. "The game" is outdated. There are far more quality literary sources on the topic you could learn from. I'd personally put my book against anyones. But there's many others as well.


Well, really I took the job because I wanted to get my foot in the door in the foodservice industry...working towards bartending and see if I wanted to get into the Bar business...as a business of my own...and then I was really excited about the opportunities that working in a bar/restaurant would present. This was before I had my PUA epiphany/aspiration...

I do see where you're going with the "work boyfriend" positioning.

As far as the "kissing being the only thing that happened" bit...I do think I should have gone for more. We were running late for our shift at work, so I didn't think it would be logistically possible/realistically possible for me to fuck her at the time...I should have gone for it anyway and seen what happened. Like you said...more confidence. I figured with the kiss close, I'd for sure get the opportunity to take it to that next level being that we see each other a few days/week. Her schedule is crazy...as is mine (working 70-80 hours/week), and I just haven't been able to escalate it the way I had expected I would with the groundwork I had laid. You live, you learn.


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I think you need to continue your educaiton in closing first. Just as you used your 'body positioning trick' to affect her, you have to use other 'tricks' in order to 'close.' It gets much better when you pratice it in real life - As others pointed out, the main failure here is escalation. If I were a gay man, I'd have no idea you were actually interesting in getting inside me.

When I am with a woman that I am attracted to, I make it extremely clear that I am by engaging sexually in every way possible - lips, hair, body, boobs, legs, conversation.

Do you see where you're lacking? You need to get her into a comfortable locaiton where you can convey your interest otherwise someone else will beat you to it!


I think I could definitely take the kino to the next level for sure...getting there little by little. Any literature that you recommend relative to kino?

...truth be told I did a little Tinder chubby chasing for practice last night haha...and ALMOST got the fuck close, but she was on her period and didn't want to (at least supposedly)...but I did get her to my place, make out with her...and pull her pants down and bite her ass haha...As she left, she asked to hang out this weekend...I told her "maybe". I had forgotten I am going to be out of town for the weekend, but even if I was in town I don't know if I'd call her. I know I can do better.

Do you feel like practicing with chubbies and 5s or 6s is a good thing or bad? At least early in this game...


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Eddie Fews wrote:
So you took a hostest job just to meet the few women that are going to be coming in and out over using that free time to go to places with hundreds of more options of women you could approach? Perhaps you can break down the logic there for me...

Second.. buying drinks isn't going to determine whether you get laid or you don't. It's the attitude of the guy that "doesn't buy drinks" that gets him laid, not the physical gesture of buying drinks. You can have that same attitude, still buy drinks, and still get laid.

At this moment you're positing yourself as the "work boyfriend". Just someone she sees and flirts with from time to time because you two work together. And you've resorted to playing petty highschool "withdrawn attention" games instead of taking the bull by the horns and going after what you want. The right guy is going to show up to the spot, grab her number, invite her out, a fuck her if you don't get it together. Kissing is all that happened because kissing is all you had the self confidence and certainty to go after. If you have the overwelhming confidence, to lead, direct, and go for more, more would have happened.

If I were you, I would drop the girl, and the job unless you need the money and spend that time racking up on my approach expirience. "The game" is outdated. There are far more quality literary sources on the topic you could learn from. I'd personally put my book against anyones. But there's many others as well.


Well, really I took the job because I wanted to get my foot in the door in the foodservice industry...working towards bartending and see if I wanted to get into the Bar business...as a business of my own...and then I was really excited about the opportunities that working in a bar/restaurant would present. This was before I had my PUA epiphany/aspiration...

I do see where you're going with the "work boyfriend" positioning...and I've also already talked to my boss about cutting my hours back, because I do realize now that I can do better with pickup outside of work...I don't see myself wanting to own a bar anymore. Will probably quit that gig soon enough. To make more time for me to hone my pick up skills. I'm more excited about this than I have been about anything in a while.

As far as the "kissing being the only thing that happened" bit...I do think I should have gone for more. We were running late for our shift at work, so I didn't think it would be logistically possible/realistically possible for me to fuck her at the time...I should have gone for it anyway and seen what happened. Like you said...more confidence. I figured with the kiss close, I'd for sure get the opportunity to take it to that next level being that we see each other a few days/week. Her schedule is crazy...as is mine (working 70-80 hours/week), and I just haven't been able to escalate it the way I had expected I would with the groundwork I had laid. You live, you learn.


masterm1ne wrote:
I think you need to continue your educaiton in closing first. Just as you used your 'body positioning trick' to affect her, you have to use other 'tricks' in order to 'close.' It gets much better when you pratice it in real life - As others pointed out, the main failure here is escalation. If I were a gay man, I'd have no idea you were actually interesting in getting inside me.

When I am with a woman that I am attracted to, I make it extremely clear that I am by engaging sexually in every way possible - lips, hair, body, boobs, legs, conversation.

Do you see where you're lacking? You need to get her into a comfortable locaiton where you can convey your interest otherwise someone else will beat you to it!


I think I could definitely take the kino to the next level for sure...getting there little by little. Any literature that you recommend relative to kino?

...truth be told I did a little Tinder chubby chasing for practice last night haha...and ALMOST got the fuck close, but she was on her period and didn't want to (at least supposedly)...but I did get her to my place, make out with her...and pull her pants down and bit her ass haha...As she left, she asked to hang out this weekend...I told her "maybe". I had forgotten I am going to be out of town for the weekend, but even if I was in town I don't know if I'd call her. I know I can do better, and she seems a little crazy.

Do you feel like practicing with chubbies and 5s or 6s is a good thing or bad? At least early in this game...


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Hawky wrote:

Do you feel like practicing with chubbies and 5s or 6s is a good thing or bad? At least early in this game...


I don't know for the life of me why more guys don't take this route. It gives you a plentiful mind set, and my penis feels the same inside her. Hell a lot of times they fuck with more intensity and have a passion to deliver in bed.

I used to do this with my buddies for the deliberate purpose. As a challenge. We called it 'Hoggin'. They were easy to spot. They usually run in packs.

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Heywood Jablowme wrote:
Hawky wrote:

Do you feel like practicing with chubbies and 5s or 6s is a good thing or bad? At least early in this game...


I don't know for the life of me why more guys don't take this route. It gives you a plentiful mind set, and my penis feels the same inside her. Hell a lot of times they fuck with more intensity and have a passion to deliver in bed.

I used to do this with my buddies for the deliberate purpose. As a challenge. We called it 'Hoggin'. They were easy to spot. They usually run in packs.



I'd say most new posters here need to go this route. Instead sex becomes this magical mystery, and they get hung up on an 8 or 9 (out of their league currently), and end up stalking her, when they should be cultivating abundance and changing their mind set.

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Hoggin' is a fun past time, can be good for beginners too. Btw, if a girl ever tells you she is on her period, make her show you. Doesn't have to be done in a gross way, but it keeps her honest and basically establishes a precedent that you have the right to see her pussy.

At least OP called himself out for being AFC and all the mistakes he made, because I swear that restaurant hostesses are about the easiest game there is. I mean there's really no advice to give. All you have to do is isolate her somewhere and escalate and she'll be more than willing to oblige, I guarantee you. But if you keep buying a bunch of drinks and don't get physical and relegate yourself to stupid texting, then obviously nothing is going to happen.

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puaninja wrote:
Btw, if a girl ever tells you she is on her period, make her show you. Doesn't have to be done in a gross way, but it keeps her honest and basically establishes a precedent that you have the right to see her pussy.



That is savage haha. I like it.


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Heywood Jablowme wrote:
Hawky wrote:

Do you feel like practicing with chubbies and 5s or 6s is a good thing or bad? At least early in this game...


I don't know for the life of me why more guys don't take this route. It gives you a plentiful mind set, and my penis feels the same inside her. Hell a lot of times they fuck with more intensity and have a passion to deliver in bed.

I used to do this with my buddies for the deliberate purpose. As a challenge. We called it 'Hoggin'. They were easy to spot. They usually run in packs.


lol i practice on 5/6's to not fuck up with the 9/10s when it really matters.

it really builds confidence in creating an abundance mindset and not giving a shit if things go south.

its like stand up comedians who do test jokes on small clubs before nailing it down on big crowd shows.


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masterm1ne wrote:
I think you need to continue your educaiton in closing first. Just as you used your 'body positioning trick' to affect her, you have to use other 'tricks' in order to 'close.' It gets much better when you pratice it in real life - As others pointed out, the main failure here is escalation. If I were a gay man, I'd have no idea you were actually interesting in getting inside me.

When I am with a woman that I am attracted to, I make it extremely clear that I am by engaging sexually in every way possible - lips, hair, body, boobs, legs, conversation.

Do you see where you're lacking? You need to get her into a comfortable locaiton where you can convey your interest otherwise someone else will beat you to it!


that is very good advice mate, i seem to be lacking alot in that escalation.


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