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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2017 11:59 pm 
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For example, I've gone out alone before and talked to different groups of people but every now and then a get a group that makes me feel like I am not welcome in there social circle. It would normally be fine if I was already with a group of friends but alone it definitely stings more. also, what tips do you have for when you approach a woman in a group, you then meet all her friends, and then they start telling stories about events they were all there for and you weren't and talking about people you've never met but that they know. Do you call them out for being rude cunts (jokingly of course)? or do you play it cool and try to change the subject?

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PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2017 12:21 am 
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neo87 wrote:
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what do you mean man? Like out to the bar.

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PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2017 12:24 am 
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like what happened exactly


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For example, I've gone out alone before and talked to different groups of people but every now and then a get a group that makes me feel like I am not welcome in there social circle. It would normally be fine if I was already with a group of friends but alone it definitely stings more. also, what tips do you have for when you approach a woman in a group, you then meet all her friends, and then they start telling stories about events they were all there for and you weren't and talking about people you've never met but that they know. Do you call them out for being rude cunts (jokingly of course)? or do you play it cool and try to change the subject?


they do that it means you are not welcome. no point trying to be nice and try to belong to a group you are not welcomed. just go and don turn around.


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PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2017 3:09 am 
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It's all about energy level. Let's say on a scale of 1 to 10, your average circle of friends has an energy level of about 5 when they banter back and forth and tell stories. Some maybe lower like a 3, and some may be higher and a bit wild, like maybe a 7. When you come into that set, your personal energy level must remain higher than the group's AT ALL TIMES. Otherwise they will overpower you with their stories and their personalities and you will wither in their midst and get pushed out.

I knew this guy who would come into parties where he didn't know anyone aside from the person who invited him. Didn't matter what was going on there, he stormed in and took over the center table and dominated the conversation. He quickly orchestrated and started playing some word game that he said involved "dick and pussy sex only". In front of total strangers! I mean some grandpa was there playing along, peoples moms and family members, highschoolers, you name it. But I'll be damned if that dude's energy level wasn't throttled at 10 the WHOLE time. It was probably the most alpha type behavior I've ever scene. Be that guy.

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I knew this guy who would come into parties where he didn't know anyone aside from the person who invited him. Didn't matter what was going on there, he stormed in and took over the center table and dominated the conversation. He quickly orchestrated and started playing some word game that he said involved "dick and pussy sex only". In front of total strangers! I mean some grandpa was there playing along, peoples moms and family members, highschoolers, you name it. But I'll be damned if that dude's energy level wasn't throttled at 10 the WHOLE time. It was probably the most alpha type behavior I've ever scene. Be that guy.


that could work too to overcome anxiety approaching girls.


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I knew this guy who would come into parties where he didn't know anyone aside from the person who invited him. Didn't matter what was going on there, he stormed in and took over the center table and dominated the conversation. He quickly orchestrated and started playing some word game that he said involved "dick and pussy sex only". In front of total strangers! I mean some grandpa was there playing along, peoples moms and family members, highschoolers, you name it. But I'll be damned if that dude's energy level wasn't throttled at 10 the WHOLE time. It was probably the most alpha type behavior I've ever scene. Be that guy.


that could work too to overcome anxiety approaching girls.

Yea but you just have to commit to that high energy frame and remain congruent. If you don't then you'll seem erratic and unstable and start offending people.

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Dealing with a group is just going to slow you down. If you're out for WOMEN, when you meet one and she introduces her to her friends, say hi and take her away from the group. If you're having conversations with the group...whats the point?


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Dealing with a group is just going to slow you down. If you're out for WOMEN, when you meet one and she introduces her to her friends, say hi and take her away from the group. If you're having conversations with the group...whats the point?

Good point. You really should only do it early on when you open and lock into the set. Otherwise each person in the set is taking turns saying dumb shit to you that is unimportant, or there's an alpha or cockblocker in there trying to mess up your game. You're basically only acknowledging the whole group so you can make the target feel comfortable before you isolate, and also so her friends are comfortable enough to let her go off with you.

However, guys like Mystery can take over a whole set and they all circle around him. He can game the target while still staying in the set, even merging the set into ANOTHER set, making it bigger yet. But again, the reason it works for him is because he will out talk everyone, neg the alphas and cockblockers, freeze them out, and his energy completely dominates the whole set the entire time he's in it.

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neo87 wrote:
Dealing with a group is just going to slow you down. If you're out for WOMEN, when you meet one and she introduces her to her friends, say hi and take her away from the group. If you're having conversations with the group...whats the point?


Yea, so what is a good way to isolate her from her friends? Just say somwthing like, "hey lets go up to the bar, I need to get another drink." Also, how soon after meeting her should you isolate her? Within 5 minutes? After a connection is made?

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PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2017 7:52 pm 
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No, it does not hurt your chances.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 8:52 pm 
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So what is the best way to isolate the girl from her friends and how soon do you do it? Also, do you guys get insecure for those moments in between sets when you have no one to talk to? Especially if literally everyone else at the bar came with a friend.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 9:13 pm 
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Sunshine_88 wrote:
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So what is the best way to isolate the girl from her friends and how soon do you do it?


As soon as you start getting IOI's. A woman told me this the other day:

"We go out to hook up in packs. We're more comfortable, and like it when a guy can approach me with friends."

Never assume a crowd of women is "girl's night out" only.



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Also, do you guys get insecure for those moments in between sets when you have no one to talk to? Especially if literally everyone else at the bar came with a friend.



No. Never. You have to be comfortable in your own skin. If you aren't, you won't do well with women.

Hit the gym, pursue your passions and career. Get off TV and video games. Read.

When you are happy with yourself, and confident, you don't care if you're alone at a bar.

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You're thinking about this all wrong dude.

You're new. That's okay. You need to focus on developing the skills. Basically redshirt yourself for a few months. For instance, have you completed the rookie challenge?

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