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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:31 am 
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Found this just now, would you say this is all good, or are certain parts bullshit? I am getting a strange feeling from the "never apologize for anything" and the "never compliment" part. And is it true that you should never say "I love you" first?

"The Sixteen Commandments Of Poon

I. Never say ‘I Love You’ first

Women want to feel like they have to overcome obstacles to win a man’s heart. They crave the challenge of capturing the interest of a man who has other women competing for his attention, and eventually prevailing over his grudging reluctance to award his committed exclusivity. The man who gives his emotional world away too easily robs women of the satisfaction of earning his love. Though you may be in love with her, don’t say it before she has said it. Show compassionate restraint for her need to struggle toward yin fulfillment. Inspire her to take the leap for you, and she’ll return the favor a thousandfold.

II. Make her jealous

Flirt with other women in front of her. Do not dissuade other women from flirting with you. Women will never admit this but jealousy excites them. The thought of you turning on another woman will arouse her sexually. No girl wants a man that no other woman wants. The partner who harnesses the gale storm of jealousy controls the direction of the relationship.

III. You shall make your mission, not your woman, your priority

Forget all those romantic cliches of the leading man proclaiming his undying love for the woman who completes him. Despite whatever protestations to the contrary, women do not want to be “The One” or the center of a man’s existence. They in fact want to subordinate themselves to a worthy man’s life purpose, to help him achieve that purpose with their feminine support, and to follow the path he lays out. You must respect a woman’s integrity and not lie to her that she is “your everything”. She is not your everything, and if she is, she will soon not be anymore.

IV. Don’t play by her rules

If you allow a woman to make the rules she will resent you with a seething contempt even a rapist cannot inspire. The strongest woman and the most strident feminist wants to be led by, and to submit to, a more powerful man. Polarity is the core of a healthy loving relationship. She does not want the prerogative to walk all over you with her capricious demands and mercurial moods. Her emotions are a hurricane, her soul a saboteur. Think of yourself as a bulwark against her tempest. When she grasps for a pillar to steady herself against the whipping winds or yearns for an authority figure to foil her worst instincts, it is you who has to be there… strong, solid, unshakeable and immovable.

V. Adhere to the golden ratio

Give your woman 2/3 of everything she gives you. For every three calls or texts, give her two back. Three declarations of love earn two in return. Three gifts; two nights out. Give her two displays of affection and stop until she has answered with three more. When she speaks, you reply with fewer words. When she emotes, you emote less. The idea behind the golden ratio is twofold — it establishes your greater value by making her chase you, and it demonstrates that you have the self-restraint to avoid getting swept up in her personal dramas. Refraining from reciprocating everything she does for you in equal measure instills in her the proper attitude of belief in your higher status. In her deepest loins it is what she truly wants.

VI. Keep her guessing

True to their inscrutable natures, women ask questions they don’t really want direct answers to. Woe be the man who plays it straight — his fate is the suffering of the beta. Evade, tease, obfuscate. She thrives when she has to imagine what you’re thinking about her, and withers when she knows exactly how you feel. A woman may want financial and family security, but she does not want passion security. In the same manner, when she has displeased you, punish swiftly, but when she has done you right, reward slowly. Reward her good behavior intermittently and unpredictably and she will never tire of working hard to please you.

VII. Always keep two in the kitty

Never allow yourself to be a “kept man”. A man with options is a man without need. It builds confidence and encourages boldness with women if there is another woman, a safety net, to catch you in case you slip and risk a breakup, divorce, or a lost prospect, leading to loneliness and a grinding dry spell. A woman knows once she has slept with a man she has abdicated a measure of her power; when she has fallen in love with him she has surrendered nearly all of it. But love is ephemeral and with time she may rediscover her power and threaten to leave you. It is her final trump card. Withdrawing all her love and all her body in an instant will rend your soul if you are faced with contemplating the empty abyss alone. Knowing there is another you can turn to for affection will fortify your will and satisfy your manhood.

VIII. Say you’re sorry only when absolutely necessary

Do not say you’re sorry for every wrong thing you do. It is a posture of submission that no man should reflexively adopt, no matter how alpha he is. Apologizing increases the demand for more apologies. She will come to expect your contrition, like a cat expects its meal at a set time each day. And then your value will lower in her eyes. Instead, if you have done something wrong, you should acknowledge your guilt in a glancing way without resorting to the actual words “I’m sorry.” Pull the Bill Clinton maneuver and say “Mistakes were made” or tell her you “feel bad” about what you did. You are granted two freebie “I’m sorry”s for the life of your relationship; use them wisely.

IX. Connect with her emotions

Set yourself apart from other men and connect with a woman’s emotional landscape. Her mind is an alien world that requires deft navigation to reach your rendevous. Frolic in the surf of emotions rather than the arid desert of logic. Be playful. Employ all your senses. Describe in lush detail scenarios to set her heart afire. Give your feelings freedom to roam. ROAM. Yes, that is a good word. You’re not on a linear path with her. You are ROAMING all over, taking her on an adventure. In this world, there is no need to finish thoughts or draw conclusions. There is only need to EXPERIENCE. You’re grabbing her hand and running with her down an infinite, labyrinthine alleyway with no end, laughing and letting your fingers glide on the cobblestone walls along the way.

X. Ignore her beauty

The man who trains his mind to subdue the reward centers of his brain when reflecting upon a beautiful female face will magically transform his interactions with women. His apprehension and self-consciousness will melt away, paving the path for more honest and self-possessed interactions with the objects of his desire. This is one reason why the greatest lotharios drown in more love than they can handle — through positive experiences with so many beautiful women they lose their awe of beauty and, in turn, their powerlessness under its spell. It will help you acquire the right frame of mind to stop using the words hot, cute, gorgeous, or beautiful to describe girls who turn you on. Instead, say to yourself “she’s interesting” or “she might be worth getting to know”. Never compliment a girl on her looks, especially not a girl you aren’t fucking. Turn off that part of your brain that wants to put them on pedestals. Further advanced training to reach this state of unawed Zen transcendence is to sleep with many MANY attractive women (try to avoid sleeping with a lot of ugly women if you don’t want to regress). Soon, a Jedi lover you will be.

XI. Be irrationally self-confident

No matter what your station in life, stride through the world without apology or excuse. It does not matter if objectively you are not the best man a woman can get; what matters is that you think and act like you are. Women have a dog’s instinct for uncovering weakness in men; don’t make it easy for them. Self-confidence, warranted or not, triggers submissive emotional responses in women. Irrational self-confidence will get you more pussy than rational defeatism.

XII. Maximize your strengths, minimize your weaknesses

In the betterment of ourselves as men we attract women into our orbit. To accomplish this gravitational pull as painlessly and efficiently as possible, you must identify your natural talents and shortcomings and parcel your efforts accordingly. If you are a gifted jokester, don’t waste time and energy trying to raise your status in philosophical debate. If you write well but dance poorly, don’t kill yourself trying to expand your manly influence on the dancefloor. Your goal should be to attract women effortlessly, so play to your strengths no matter what they are; there is a groupie for every male endeavor. Except World of Warcraft.

XIII. Err on the side of too much boldness, rather than too little

Touching a woman inappropriately on the first date will get you further with her than not touching her at all. Don’t let a woman’s faux indignation at your boldness sway you; they secretly love it when a man aggressively pursues what he wants and makes his sexual intentions known. You don’t have to be an asshole, but if you have no choice, being an inconsiderate asshole beats being a polite beta, every time.

XIV. Fuck her good

Fuck her like it’s your last fuck. And hers. Fuck her so good, so hard, so wantonly, so profligately that she is left a quivering, sparking mass of shaking flesh and sex fluids. Drain her of everything, then drain her some more. Kiss her all over, make love to her all night, and hold her close in the morning. Own her body, own her gratitude, own her love. If you don’t know how, learn to give her squirting orgasms.

XV. Maintain your state control

You are an oak tree. You will not be manipulated by crying, yelling, lying, head games, sexual withdrawal, jealousy ploys, pity plays, shit tests, hot/cold/hot/cold, disappearing acts, or guilt trips. She will rain and thunder all around you and you will shelter her until her storm passes. She will not drag you into her chaos or uproot you. When you have mastery over yourself, you will have mastery over her.

XVI. Never be afraid to lose her

You must not fear. Fear is the love-killer. Fear is the ego-triumph that brings abject loneliness. You will face your fear. You will permit it to pass over and through you. And when your ego-fear is gone you will turn and face your lover, and only your heart will remain. You will walk away from her when she has violated your integrity, and you will let her walk when her heart is closed to you. She who can destroy you, controls you. Don’t give her that power over yourself. Love yourself before you love her.


The closer you follow the letter of these commandments, the easier you will find and keep real, true unconditional love and happiness in your life.


Your Lord and King "

PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:51 am 
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Without getting into details, this is only good if you are looking for something that is short term. Some of these rules will lead you into an adjustment of your personality if you figure out at some point that you want a long term type of relationship with a woman. The moment you adjust, you change who you are to her and risk losing her based on simplistic rules that you followed to get her for something short term.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:36 pm 
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These commandments are spot on IMHO. I agree these commandments are better for the short term tho. As the relationship ages you will have to relax some of these commandments. So, the key is to use these as part of a strategy to get the girl but also knowing enough about women to know if and when to peel it back. The key is also to embody personality and mental traits that women love and endear in women but thats a whole other post.

Most notable is not complimenting her. This is a very powerful tool. I admit its very hard to turn that natural reaction off. But you have to do it. With much pain and effort I was able to master the skill of being cognizant of her beauty but withholding how I felt. And yes it does work!!!! and contributes to DHV. As proof that it works, I had a girl tell me "I like you. You were cool and laid back and not going on and on about how fine I was and how pretty I was. I liked that shit." I had 2 other girls tell me something similar including "I was un sure if I was your type" or "I didn't know if you thought I was cute or not". The latter two girls definitely seemed a bit more aggressive about having a relationship with me. Text were almost always answered immediately. Dates were easy to schedule etc., I didn't get all that "I'm busy" stuff.

Also I agree with withholding all of your emotions. But I also agree with time you do have to be a bit more vulnerable with a girl if it looks like its going to be long term. The examples in the commandments are spot on but as an addition you can allude to your emotions for example I might say something like "I'm crazy about you..." or "I really like what we have going on" you get the idea.

As with everything in this lifestyle, results vary from guy to guy. Its all about finding what works for you and capitalizing on it.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 4:53 am 
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Hahaha.. typical Manosphere claptrap. All perfectly rationalized yet potentially useless, in practice, or worse.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 4:29 am 
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I have field tested all 16 commandments. Here's my feedback.

#3 is not realistic. But of course, making the woman your life's mission is retarded. What works is to make the woman your mission for the next 3 hours and then when the time is up or the mission is done, you focus on the next mission.

#4 is retarded. Sometimes, you have to play by the girl's rules most especially when those are very reasonable. You have to give some to get some. But of course, the girl should be following your rules most of the time.

#5 is retarded. What works is mixing up the ratio at random. Operant or Skinnerian conditioning works well for a reason. A few times, text or call more than the girl does. Then cut off the ratio dramatically. Next, don't reply at all most especially when you're busy or feel like there's no need to reply. Then back to normal, say, 50-50. Applies to other aspects as well like affection and gifts. Casanova, a very generous and affectionate guy, is very good with women for his random acts. Uncertainty is attractive to both men and women.

The rest of the commandments work rather well for me after numerous field tests. Newbies should really field test and find the approaches that work really well for them rather than taking my words (or other posters' words) hook, line, and sinker.

The only way to find out the truth of the matter, whether the 16 Commandments of Poon are good or not, is to take action.

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Da wrote:
I'm generally skeptical of statements written in absolutes.

100% agree. So many things depend on context and other unique variables.

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This just reminds me of a dudes that act all macho and shit. Not my style and I wouldn't recommend to anyone wanting a healthy relationship

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16 commandments of being an insecure loser

Well done is better than well said.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 11:51 pm 
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All of these rules occur organically once you obtain abundance mentality.

However, the list needs to be adjusted if you plan to keep a woman for longer than a few months.

Abundance mentality, once achieved, will create a "macho" attitude by default. You balance this out by jettisoning a couching lifestyle ( video games, TV) for enrichment via fiction, non-fiction, collecting music, browsing art that may interest you, hiking, taking a new class of some kind, etc.

Achieving abundance mentality is created by following the five fundamental principles, and, quite honestly, years of refinement. When you get this, you will have an organic air of indifference which can be interpreted as "macho", but really what it is, is you've completely defined your type, know your value, have fucked a lot of women, and basically know what's worth your time and not.

Don't confuse a dominant, fit man with abundance mentality and indifference to a frustrated frat boy on the outside.

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