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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 11:03 am 
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Is this whole PUA thing just a complete disaster? Are PUAs are actually destroying their lives without even noticing it?

All those guys who are famous PUAs today, how they become that? Well, they become PUAs because they didn't like who they are and didn't have basic social skills and
assertiveness skills. Instead on working on that, they choose different(in my opinion, wrong way) way of getting girls.


If you learn how to pick up girls the healthy way, that's exactly what you do. Become a more socially aggressive person.

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That what they are doing, it is not about girls anymore. You started doing this to get girls, but let's be honest, do you care about them at all? How can you care about a girl you met
and fucked on one night and then tomorow fucked another? You don't even remember their names or anything about them. You don't do this to get girls, you doing this to pump
your ego. You run endless cycle of having new girl every night and you are lost in it.


I've fallen in love more times than I can count to be honest. That's what I feel makes me "experienced." I've been around the block a few times. Theres no secret I know or special tricks I use to get girls to sleep with me. I am who I am because of what I've been through.

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The problem you guys who want to learn from PUAs have is actualy a low self esteem and not having basic social skills. You don't have to be PUA or something like that to get girls.
You don't have to know any PUA rules. Even this guys who say they are "Natural" are actually talking bullshit. If they are natural they won't be analizing all that stuff and they
won't even be familiar with PUA phrases.
You don't need that shit. You actually just need to go to shrink and fix your confidence, social skills and self esteem. That's all you need!
If you do that, you will have girlfriends that like you for who you are, and if you learn PUA skills they won't be with you because of who you are, they will be with you
because you used your tricks to manipulate with them. At the end, how you would now which girl is right for you, when you now that you get all of them not because who you are,
but because you used learned tricks?


So you'd rather see a shrink, who's gonna put you on pills... than someone with some dating experience, to fix your dating life. Well, you fooled me. You're a lot dumber than I thought you were.

You know what fixes someone's confidence? Someone that can help them get their life in direction. Not a shrink.

You know what builds social skills? Actually going out and talking to people. Engaging in conversations. Not a shrink.

You know what builds self esteem? Fixing your style and making yourself feel good. Learning how to communicate better. Working out and getting in shape.... and then having some cute girl throw herself at you and shower you with compliments. Try it. It feels pretty damn good.

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Here's a couple of questions that I would like to be answered by professional PUA:
How long did last your longest relationship?


Well, I was married for 2 and a half and that was a pretty toxic relationship. Thats when I read about all this "PUA" shit. Realized that I was a piece of shit as person and made some serious changes to myself.

Now, not to toot my own horn, I'm a pretty bad ass mother fucker. I've got an amazing girlfriend and we've been living together for 3 years now. Our relationship makes other people jealous to say the least.

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Do you think is normal that an adult guy can't or don't want to have at least 6 months - 1 year relationship?


What is normal? Maybe some people don't want relationships and just like having empty sex??? What the fuck is it to you what other people do?

I'll be honest, love hurts. I love my girlfriend so much that if something ever happened between me and her, I don't know if I'd ever let myself fall in love again. I'd most likely start pimping girls. I can pretty much convince them to do anything I want anyways. At that point, I may as well start to profit off of them.

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Relationship filled with real love(not manipulations)
with sex with love(not just sex), with working on your near or far future together etc?


Like I said, I love my girlfriend. I'd marry the girl to be real with you. She's wifey material. We're working on buying a house together right now. But here's the difference between me and other guys... If shit goes south between me and her, my life doesn't crash and burn in front of my face. Instead, a new chapter of it starts.

I've developed a different frame of mind towards women in my life than most men. Thats why I'll never have problems with women in my life again. I think differently than you do.

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Why I think this whole PUA thing sucks:
1. You're making damage to your self by deprive love from yourself
2. You're making same damage to people who learn this stuff from you
3. You're making damage to girls that you use just for sex and to "improve your game"
4. You're making damage to boyfriends of these girls because maybe some of those girls was in serious and great relationship and now you use your tricks so she cheat on her boyfriend with you


None of thats true but we've already established that you're alot dumber than you look.

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The only good thing in all this for you professional PUAs is that you get money without working.


I challenge you to start coaching people yourself and then tell me it isn't "work." You have no idea what it's like listening to peoples problems all day then trying to sleep with out pills. It's hard to not make other people's problems become your own when you know them on a personal level so you, sir or ma'am, can suck a fat dick.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2016 7:03 pm 
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he is just trolling anyway


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 1:54 pm 
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Let s be honest !
Taking action and learning pick up is the best thing that a man can do.
Being a Pua requieres to go out / put yourself out there talk to strangers / handle social situations....the list is long
If all these things that I listed seem difficult to do for you, don t come here, blame Puas and cry yourself...
I mean not only for sleeping with lots of women but also to rock your life in society and be able to be respected and loved by other people we must learn study practice social dynamics and understand people....
Also come on guys looks realy don t matter...why are you trying to fix something that you can not fix ? If you re not born like Brad Pitt you can not change it but what you can change is...you can work to look better and more importantly you can sleep with lots of hot women...


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 4:46 am 
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Also come on guys looks realy don t matter


bullshit


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 4:57 pm 
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Aqualol wrote:
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Also come on guys looks realy don t matter


bullshit

If you don t look like Brad Pitt and you think that it is an excuse for not handling your life unfortunately it is a bad decision If you had 9 lives It would be ok but everybody has one life and we have to stop focusing on what we can not fix PERIOD If there is a good looking guy who gets laid guess what ? there are many other "even better looking guys and also there are other guys who are "even better looking" If you envie them It is like a bird who envies a rabbit saying "why can t I run that fast" guess what the bird can t run that fast but IT CAN FLY...In real life game there is no comparaison no competition If you play that "I must be the best game" you ll not obtain anything from life but If you stop comparing yourself and focus on "what you can do next to get better and BE YOUR OWN HERO" then you ll get laid...you ll get laid a lot...


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 10:21 am 
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Bro,,,I sense massive amounts of frustration in you when it comes to women,,,Pua this magic trick that,all of the material on Pua is true,may not apply to every girl yet the underscore remains the same...most men I know do this because of that "love" the bitch who gutted you and watched you bleed out...and to be frank,it's completely necessary,makes you a cold mother fucker,and guess what,bitches love hard guys,the assholes,the badass with no emotions etc,I haven't slept with 22 woman because I'm a nice guy,they slept with be because I'm a fucking dick and not afraid to say what's on my mind...get hard boet ! Yes it's meaningless sex...I'd rather have a hot bitch jumping on my dick than writing love letters,buying flowers etc
Man the fuck up and fuck all of them whilst you can still get it up..done here


I totally agree with everything that you said here! 100%


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 10:50 am 
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Hey, GFRESH2DEF

Regarding your signature:
"LEARNING GAME IS LAME!..Right up until the point when you will eventually see a hot girl standing or sitting right in front of you. In that moment..you will wish that you had learned game!"

What do you think are the main differences in terms of what the approach on that hot girl looks like between someone who's 'learnt game' and someone who has never heard of pickup?

I've read about 6 pickup books now and so I guess it's fair to say that i've 'learnt game' although i'm not sure that my interaction would be much better than a random guy off the street? The most tangible difference I think is simply being brave enough too approach!

'I wonder if you can pin-point some of the bigger, more tangible differences.

edit: Part of the reason I ask, is because some time ago I showed my brother(never heard of game/pickup) a few infields from popular PUA's and he was just baffled. He didn't understand why this stuff needed to be 'taught' and didn't seem to be impressed or seem to think there was any skill involved. He was like ''So what? The guy approached a girl, said hi, told her she was cute and then asked her some questions?!...a 5 year old could 'learn game' in about 20 minutes!!''. I wasn't really sure how to answer him back!! haha


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 11:28 am 
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bluesunrise wrote:
Aqualol wrote:
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Also come on guys looks realy don t matter


bullshit

If you don t look like Brad Pitt and you think that it is an excuse for not handling your life unfortunately it is a bad decision If you had 9 lives It would be ok but everybody has one life and we have to stop focusing on what we can not fix PERIOD If there is a good looking guy who gets laid guess what ? there are many other "even better looking guys and also there are other guys who are "even better looking" If you envie them It is like a bird who envies a rabbit saying "why can t I run that fast" guess what the bird can t run that fast but IT CAN FLY...In real life game there is no comparaison no competition If you play that "I must be the best game" you ll not obtain anything from life but If you stop comparing yourself and focus on "what you can do next to get better and BE YOUR OWN HERO" then you ll get laid...you ll get laid a lot...


PREACH!! LOL


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 12:00 pm 
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Hey, GFRESH2DEF

Regarding your signature:
"LEARNING GAME IS LAME!..Right up until the point when you will eventually see a hot girl standing or sitting right in front of you. In that moment..you will wish that you had learned game!"

What do you think are the main differences in terms of what the approach on that hot girl looks like between someone who's 'learnt game' and someone who has never heard of pickup?

I've read about 6 pickup books now and so I guess it's fair to say that i've 'learnt game' although i'm not sure that my interaction would be much better than a random guy off the street? The most tangible difference I think is simply being brave enough too approach!

'I wonder if you can pin-point some of the bigger, more tangible differences.

edit: Part of the reason I ask, is because some time ago I showed my brother(never heard of game/pickup) a few infields from popular PUA's and he was just baffled. He didn't understand why this stuff needed to be 'taught' and didn't seem to be impressed or seem to think there was any skill involved. He was like ''So what? The guy approached a girl, said hi, told her she was cute and then asked her some questions?!...a 5 year old could 'learn game' in about 20 minutes!!''. I wasn't really sure how to answer him back!! haha


Thanks for asking me that question about my signature, i'm actually kinda glad that you did. My signature basically summarizes everything that i explain in detail below this sentence.


The complete cirlce of pickup is divided into 3 slices: Thoery, Outer Game, and Inner Game! If you are missing any of those 3 slices, you will not have complete game. But what all 3 slices have in common is that they all must be learned..whether through active academic studying, trial & error, or daily practical implementation..ALL 3 must be learned one way or the other.


Most people think that pickup is lame..TRUST ME!! Even some guys who do pickup think that it's lame (NOT ME). They think that it's lame because they think that chasing girls is lame, but they refuse to face the truth that women will NEVER come to them the way that they want them to. They have to approach, if they want any chance at dating that girl that they really like. AFCs & White Knights will one day meet a girl that they like, but they won't have the pickup skills required to actually approach the girl..let alone attract the girl and fuck her. They will constantly miss golden opportunities with these girls, until they cannot bear it anymore. As a result..they will desperately seek dating advice. I know because i was desperate too. My dating life sucked super bad dude! That's what led me to Pick Up. I'm sure that's what led alot of the guys on this forum to pickup.


Most dating advice (the blue pill kind) is very socially conditioned. And these AFCs (or White Knights) will continue to live their struggling love lives in misery..spending ridiculous amounts of money on prostitutes, strippers, and whine and dinning beautiful women that they met either from online, at their respective jobs, or through mutual friends. That is just what they do, i'm not making this shit up!


AND THERE'S MORE!!!!! Pickup is also half self-development..so these AFCs and White Knights will also go through Anxiety, Depression, Suicidal Thoughts & Tendencies, Sexual Frustration, Confusion, Anger Management Problems, Jealousy, Neediness, Laziness, Health Problems, and the list goes on and on. Game (Pick-Up), can potentially be an answer to all of these problems.


I've trained a few guys in what i know about cold-approach pickup (non-monetarily so far), including my very 1st wingman (who is a RAFC - Recovering Average Frustrated Chump). All of them left the lessons a little bit happier, more appreciative, grateful, and a little bit more confident with women than they were before the lessons. It didn't seem so lame to them anymore. My younger brother was the only one who still thought it was lame after i showed him what cold approach pickup looks like in person. He said that he didn't see the point of it, largely because it is a numbers game (realistically if you approach 15 girls, you may only end up getting 3 of them, the rest will probably flake on you). He saw this as too much work, and would rather just meet girls through school, friends, work, or online. But what my little brother (he's 19 years old) doesn't understand is that it's a skill set, that once he masters it, he will have it for life..and he will be able to get a new girlfriend whenever he wants if he learns this. And he won't have to rely on friends, school, work, or online dating, to find a girlfriend. Of course i did all the demonstrating & approaching myself. lol He said that he didn't want to because he didn't feel like approaching. But i know the real reason why. He most likely had alot of approach anxiety. :(


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