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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 4:09 pm 
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If you ask me I don't think there stuff is useless it's just the "the game" has evolved, girls are a bit more smarter than they were in the 2000s and so on, standards and staus quos have changed and always will, I think the key is if it's always improving and evolving is to put your own spin on it, take the work and apply it in your own sort of way, like in my case my nickname has been panda for ages, became my dj/producer name and sort of become a moniker for me, because of this I have a particular style involving a lot of black and white stuff but because I don't let it be a person a or anything like that im pretty confident about it, another thing is because of what I do I'm always in a very sociable environment but escalation is way more difficult.


Girls are exactly the same. It's the guys who have got smarter and realised that they don't need to pretend to be somebody that they're not.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 8:16 am 
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Nope..That was "Style981" you met...on a forum. Good to know that you've become a fan of me that you mistook me for the original one... lolz :P
BTW you are extremely funny....or at least most of the times. But some times I get confused whether you are just being playful or really offended. May be try using some smileys in your text ?? Won't cost you a million dollars I am sure :P

You got me on the username though :)

So did you two fuck or what


They're still in the comfort phase :lol:


Lol. You guys are hilarious. :lol: I did get fucked though, for expressing my opinion, in many other posts. (They're still on the forum) :D

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No these new guys can't use MM or Style to become gurus themselves, because now the whole stuff is under copyright, so they must belittle the old game in order to be able to sell teir own fabricated manufacture.


Spot on. They might not be the best people out there but this whole "MM is useless" thing is a marketing strategy. People just take the info they hear on social media, through friends etc for Guranteed and don't (or can't) see through the real motives of people for Spreading that info. Not to mention that in many cases, people who do this are fully aware of what they are doing, intentionally. But its all cool. Every person for himself. If MM is what works for you, so be it.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 5:12 pm 
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my 2 cents on this topic.
Style/MM is great for beginners. If you virgin/never talked to a women in your life/have AA, this stuff is great to get you going. It much easier to go to the girl and open her with opinion opener then direct one, after you start building confidence, you can switch gears.
Now I absolutely love some of Styles routines i.e Cube. Tells me a lot about women, also great when you "don't know what to talk about". You extract info and keep that as a conversation.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 7:18 pm 
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I just want to throw this out there:

I once was in a group on Facebook, I got into a discussion with Mystery and proved him wrong, making him look stupid. He was so insecure that he couldn't take the hit to his ego and literally said "You upset me on a bad day, now I'm going to stalk your profile and see how many girls I can make you lose :)"

Should not be listened to lol

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 11:29 pm 
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J.Daniels wrote:
I just want to throw this out there:

I once was in a group on Facebook, I got into a discussion with Mystery and proved him wrong, making him look stupid. He was so insecure that he couldn't take the hit to his ego and literally said "You upset me on a bad day, now I'm going to stalk your profile and see how many girls I can make you lose :)"

Should not be listened to lol

He actually tried to start shit with me over facebook one time, too, with some manosphere bullshit in response to something more feminist that I posted. I just ignored him. And to think I used to idolize this clown.

It's no wonder that so many people in the PUA community get stuck in a perpetual loop of insecurity when one of the major figureheads is so damn insecure himself, teaching shit that reinforces limiting beliefs and bitter attitudes toward women that attempt to compensate for fragile egos.

Like why the hell would you think it'd be a good idea to build an entire framework of pickup around social value when so many of your inner game issues that make you less attractive are based in an illusory self perception of being less valuable than a physically attractive woman? You're just reinforcing your insecurities that way.

And, like others have already pointed out in this thread, value-based pickup isn't even all that effective compared to focusing on other attraction triggers like sexualization and kino and emotional elicitation and etc.

His shit's outdated and therefore can be taken to mean "useless."

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Now I absolutely love some of Styles routines i.e Cube. Tells me a lot about women, also great when you "don't know what to talk about". You extract info and keep that as a conversation.

lol I still love The Cube tho

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 12:56 am 
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^ pretty much.

Lol I'm all about the 5 lies game. If I'm slipping in a conversation and catch the girl looking over my shoulder or her shoulder, I just throw it in to have some fun.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2016 12:15 am 
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J.Daniels wrote:
I just want to throw this out there:

I once was in a group on Facebook, I got into a discussion with Mystery and proved him wrong, making him look stupid. He was so insecure that he couldn't take the hit to his ego and literally said "You upset me on a bad day, now I'm going to stalk your profile and see how many girls I can make you lose :)"

Should not be listened to lol


You can't just leave us with that. Details plz


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Curtis72 wrote:
J.Daniels wrote:
I just want to throw this out there:

I once was in a group on Facebook, I got into a discussion with Mystery and proved him wrong, making him look stupid. He was so insecure that he couldn't take the hit to his ego and literally said "You upset me on a bad day, now I'm going to stalk your profile and see how many girls I can make you lose :)"

Should not be listened to lol


You can't just leave us with that. Details plz



Perception is reality, Jdaniels THINKS he won ;)

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Dragula wrote:
Curtis72 wrote:
J.Daniels wrote:
I just want to throw this out there:

I once was in a group on Facebook, I got into a discussion with Mystery and proved him wrong, making him look stupid. He was so insecure that he couldn't take the hit to his ego and literally said "You upset me on a bad day, now I'm going to stalk your profile and see how many girls I can make you lose :)"

Should not be listened to lol


You can't just leave us with that. Details plz



Perception is reality, Jdaniels THINKS he won ;)


Either way it seems like it'd be a good read


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Dragula wrote:
Curtis72 wrote:
J.Daniels wrote:
I just want to throw this out there:

I once was in a group on Facebook, I got into a discussion with Mystery and proved him wrong, making him look stupid. He was so insecure that he couldn't take the hit to his ego and literally said "You upset me on a bad day, now I'm going to stalk your profile and see how many girls I can make you lose :)"

Should not be listened to lol


You can't just leave us with that. Details plz



Perception is reality, Jdaniels THINKS he won ;)



:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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