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I just want to throw this out there:
I once was in a group on Facebook, I got into a discussion with Mystery and proved him wrong, making him look stupid. He was so insecure that he couldn't take the hit to his ego and literally said "You upset me on a bad day, now I'm going to stalk your profile and see how many girls I can make you lose
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Should not be listened to lol
He actually tried to start shit with me over facebook one time, too, with some manosphere bullshit in response to something more feminist that I posted. I just ignored him. And to think I used to idolize this clown.
It's no wonder that so many people in the PUA community get stuck in a perpetual loop of insecurity when one of the major figureheads is so damn insecure himself, teaching shit that reinforces limiting beliefs and bitter attitudes toward women that attempt to compensate for fragile egos.
Like why the hell would you think it'd be a good idea to build an entire framework of pickup around social value when so many of your inner game issues that make you less attractive are based in an illusory self perception of being less valuable than a physically attractive woman? You're just reinforcing your insecurities that way.
And, like others have already pointed out in this thread, value-based pickup isn't even all that effective compared to focusing on other attraction triggers like sexualization and kino and emotional elicitation and etc.
His shit's outdated and therefore can be taken to mean "useless."
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Now I absolutely love some of Styles routines i.e Cube. Tells me a lot about women, also great when you "don't know what to talk about". You extract info and keep that as a conversation.
lol I still love The Cube tho