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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2014 8:20 pm 
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Hey guys. I've been thinking today about how so many of us on here become PUA's because we desire women. A lot of us men in general desire women and that should be painfully apparent by the amount of people here on this board trying to learn how to become better with women. In fact its the desire for women that serves as a primary motivation for us to go out there and talk to them in the first place.

I've been thinking a lot about this lately.

It's this very same desire for women that causes us to become jealous when we see a guy who gets all the girls.
It's this very same desire for a woman that causes us to feel empty and incomplete when we don't have any in our lives.
It's this very same desire for a woman that causes us to experience distress when we find out that she doesn't desire us back.
It's this very same desire for a woman that turns us into clingy/needy men who become upset when a woman rejects us, ignores us, or doesn't text us back.
It's this very same desire for a woman that traps us in severe cases of oneitis.
It's this very same desire for a woman that prevents a man from getting over his ex and meeting new women.
It's this very same desire for a woman that causes us to become attached to the outcome and fall victim to her disapproval.

What do you guys think of all this?

Is is actually harmful to your inner game to desire women in the first place? If so, then what should our motivations be instead?


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2014 5:24 am 
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It's this very same desire for a woman that turns us into clingy/needy men who become upset when a woman rejects us, ignores us, or doesn't text us back.
Not when you see every interaction as an experiment and as something to learn from. Sure feelings may be hurt from time to time, but in general what do you care about a rejection when you're on your way to your place to meet a girl who be there to meet you in a few minutes.
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It's this very same desire for a woman that traps us in severe cases of oneitis.
It's this very same desire for a woman that prevents a man from getting over his ex and meeting new women.
It's this very same desire for a woman that causes us to become attached to the outcome and fall victim to her disapproval.
Only for those who do not possess and live by attitudes of abundance when it comes to the women in their life.
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what should our motivations be
I'll borrow a quote from one of the posters here:
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"Here's your motivation: Women are very pretty naked. Their skin is so very soft and supple and wonderful to touch. They give blowjobs and have vaginas."
You're a very intelligent dude but that intelligence is causing you to lament on some things that are unproductive when it comes to your ultimate happiness.

After all, It's this very same desire for a woman that causes her to bring us breakfast in bed and then climb on us for a ride.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2014 8:40 pm 
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I didn't mean to come off as lamenting. I am by no means trying to say that it's a bad thing to to desire women. Women I believe are one of the things that motivate men more that anything in this world. They are capable of bringing us so many good feelings and we generally desire things that are pleasurable. On the other hand they can also bring us many bad feelings that can bring men a lot of suffering. This can be very demotivating to a lot of men as their desire to avoid bad feelings may be stronger than their desire to experience good feelings.

What I desire is the inner game necessary in order to be immune to this suffering. I believe that mastering my desires and controlling my thoughts are without a doubt the keys to what it is I'm looking for.

Thanks for replying as always oceanx.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 3:04 pm 
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You know, after studying the same question myself for almost 2 years, I've discovered
something very interestign about this desire for women.

What I've found is that the desire for women that guys have, is usually a way to fill something inside
of them that is missing from their life.


It's COMPENSATION.

So let's say a guy doesn't feel very successful or high-status enough in his life.

What he'll do, instead of going for success, is he'll try to compensate with
having a really hot woman in his life.

But the trick is he doesn't actually get that girl, he only has the DESIRE to get her.

So he'll indulge into mastrubation, porn or whatever to try to fill that void inside.

But if a guy can start LIVING his life to the full, and do the things that he thinks are important
for him, then this obsessive desire for women will be gone.

Take a football player who found meaning in life when he plays for the national team, because he
likes to give hope to people of his country.

If he's playing it from his heart, and he is full in, he won't feel that void or emptiness inside. He'll
feel full, and women won't play a big part of his life. They will still be there, but he won't be like
obessive about it.

You don't have to be a football player to live your life from your heart. You need to do a little bit of
soul searching and find something that you like doing, that you would throw your full heart in.

- It could be teaching kids math.

- It could be swimming.

- It could be being a great dad to your kids.

- It could be in building a business that contributes the world in some way.


Something that gets your juices flowing and excited about getting up in the morning.

Again, you might need to do some soul searching. But from a first hand experience, I'm telling you...

IT'S WORTH IT.

Once you find the thing that gives meaning to your life, THEN go out and try to meet women.

You'll see how different you'll be, and how different women will be to you.

- Women will check YOU out.

- Women will work to get YOUR attention.

- Women will want to be around YOU.

You won't feel the need to be chasing women anymore, because you'll have the thing that you enjoy
in your life. And women will be secondary.

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