In$tinct, I'm going to ask you to deal in hypotheticals.

Do you think you would've got a similar interaction for the whole night, if you lost the chess game and had to buy her drinks, and do you think you would've got a date the next day?

Also, if you weren't as good at chess as you actually are, and knew you were going to lose, would you still have accepted the challenge?

@Webcam38, I see. I really don't know, I'm not at all familiar with that age group as I'm much younger. As for going with naturals out you can learn a lot from fellow naturals, so I wouldn't consider that really bad, even if at first they steal most girls. I did that a lot when I was an aspiring rAFC.

@slashhrfnr I would have definitely accepted as it would have been fun. If I had had to pay for her drinks it would have been a very different game to play from that point. So I really can't tell how that would have gone, there are just too much "what ifs" in this equation to know.

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When I was much younger young women did not rent hotels, they and us had 900 forints for the whole night, your social circle must be related to Mr Csányi, or Hilton.

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Not at all. I've like 70k forints to live for a month, and 12k out of that is paying for my dorm room. I don't know about this girl, she was not part of my social circle, I just met her at that bar but a 3 star hotel room for only one night is not at all expensive. Though it is true, there are some richer people in my social circle but this is kind of normal since I'm a med student, however most of my friends can be considered avarage or below avarage.

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'You really seem like something is bothering you. Relax' Bad opener. Actually. If I had said that HBs would have said "Mind you own business asshole" You must have a certain Doctorness, or very strong frame, she became your patient for 2 seconds. If you have strong frame, you can break all the rules.

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I don't exactly remember what I opened with, it was something along those lines. It's weird, we live in the same country, and my experience with women is very different from yours. I can count on one hand how many times have I been turned down so rudely right after the opener as you suggest. I do have a strong frame, that's correct. I have been preaching about the importance of a strong frame for I don't know how long too.

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Aren't you a natural? That would explain a lot of things...

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I advocate natural gaming and I practise it.

If what you mean by "natural" is that I can get women without lying to them, or deceiving them with a personality that is essentially not me, then yes I am. If what you mean by natural is that I was born like this and never had problems with women in my life then no, I'm definitely not that guy.

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excellent field report, in all aspects. especially the draw offer with the decline for the BJ and the alternative offer - that's solid game right there!

i too love chess, i think it is great for the mind and for the soul! but i barely play. have an online rating of about 1000

Bravo!

wow. dude, just wow. this is SO inspiring you have no idea man...

i know they say don't have one-gitis (ive never been laid but I'm not planning on relationships) but this sounds like a fairy tale man.. i wouldn't be able to just let her go like that... like with all the girls you've had this one seems special, WOW. although I have to treat it as a movie/fantasy and realize life is not really like that, you can't just make her the "one" always.

but just wow, like so inspiring dude.. and good job