u didnt comeout strongly as u previously did-thats nice.we are supposed to be bros here not measuring dicks i once read ur NLP journal,why did u stop writting..?

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I stopped because I have a girlfriend now and I don't practise NLP that much. I'm still searching for opportunities. It's good that you mention though. I should really continue it.

Sorry for being so harsh. Malusing NLP is a weakspot for me. I've seen in real life what it can do to people and since then I've been dedicated to stop people from misusing it.

I admit I might have been a little bit too offensive, should have been more objective with my opinion, but it's still the same. I stongly contempt forbidden patterns and anything that is remotely associated with them. Even if they can be used properly with a very few exceptions, one must be a real expert in order to do that, and they are really forbidden for a very good reason.

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I wouldn't be even playing around with this stuff until you fully understand it. I'm going through my own horror experience and now I am getting some of the answers from this thread. I know the reason I am falling apart. Because I went first. Everything I patterned in that was mutual and benefitial, wow I received so much in return. When I tried to use it selfishly for my own personal gain, it blew up in my face like I never expected. I feel like the laughing stock of the town I live in for believing that I can hypnotize people just by talking to them (I actually do believe this) and also the laughing stock here for messing up so bad. This stuff is hit and miss, you're putting idea's and thoughts out there, anything could come back your way. You'd be surprized how effective it can be. I was playing around with lust and love and obsession carelessly and the result is disaster. I'm glad I am smart enought to NEVER play around with trama, insecurity ect. I learned a lot from my mistake. For one, the positive emotions are more powerful. Negative emotions will inevitably lead the woman away.

The fuck is your problem man..........?

this made me truly sad, I've not learned much about nlp yet but one thing I'm sure of is that this is NOT nlp. this is in no way shape or form pickup. everyone has their own game, yeah, but a pua is one who leaves a positive impact. Scum try to torture and manipulate.

try to go in with the mind set of making them smile,I swear, doors will open.

This post is absolutely sick. It sickens me. Why on earth would you bring someone as low as you are in order to get them to want you? This isn't pick up. This is being an insecure monster. (Sorry for Necro'ing the thread)

Would you really rather make someone feel awful when you're gone rather than feel amazing when you're there? If you made her day, if you made her feel good in your presence, she will remember that. So that when you're gone, she'll definitely miss you and need you, instead of feeling dreadful without you. I'm really sorry, this is just a weak way to win people. It's rather inhumane too.

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If you're interested in making the people around you feel terrible then you're going to create bad vibes and I very much doubt people will like you. You can fire off all these anchors and stuff, but you will just communicate negativity, even if you try to cover it up with positive non-verbals the reality will leak through.

If instead you are interested in empowering yourself and other people, then a whole new way of being will develop. If you work on the insecurity you have felt and use different actions, techniques, approaches and transformative philosophies to shift this and become more secure and confident, then this will be way more beneficial to you.

At the moment you have beliefs like "I need somebody to stick by my side". This is just going to screw your relationships up and it won't help you at all. It's what Albert Ellis called musterbation - "She must stick by my side, otherwise that's terrible" is the general pattern. I'd consider looking into and revising such beliefs because they will be holding you back.

And you're a "fucked up kid", are you? Well, no you're not actually. This is just a belief (not a fact), and it's too limited to be of any value. You're defining the totality of who you are based on one concept ("fucked up") which is completely unhelpful, completely inaccurate and completely disempowering.

Is empathy a value for you? If not do you think that might be something you could work on? You demonstrate here basically no concern for other people which is something worth developing. Empathy, genuine consideration for other people and a desire to empower not only yourself (which is OF COURSE important) but also the other people around you will really serve you here.

You can try these patterns all you like but you will show up pathetic, victim-like, weedy and unlikeable unless you actually work on yourself. If you brought some more focus into changing your own life then you might stand more of a chance with the people around you.

(I've just seen how old this thread is, but it appears this thread has many replies after a few months' break so will leave my piece here for anyone who might be interested.)

Not trying to defend OP(as it is clear from my previous posts in this topic), but it is proven, and is teached in behavioural studies(which is a subject that was covered in 5 semesters in my med school) that empathy can NOT be learned. You either have this "skills" or not. Empathy, by definition, is to emerge yourself in the feelings of another human being and correlate your own feelings with theirs.
Now on the other hand, what CAN be learned is to be considerate about the feelings of other people, and not ruining their mind for your own selfish purposes(for them "to stick around")

Peace,

In$tinct

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Interesting insight. I'm honestly not sure whether or not I agree (I would have to see said research). Saying that, to me "empathy" MEANS understanding and being considerate to people, understanding and KNOWING on a deep level that they are like us and so would prefer good feelings over pain and suffering just like us, rather than necessarily 'experiencing' their feelings of pain.

Therefore it may be that our definitions of "empathy" are different...which would explain the confusion here.

I was a bit unclear with my last post but empathy is something that Psychology studies extensively, and it is generally accepted, that empathy can not be taught. It can be facilitated or blocked conciously, but can not be forced to happen. I can't really define it better myself, so I give you an article about it.

http://ptjournal.apta.org/content/70/11/707.long

Peace,

In$tinct

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