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Stealth7
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 Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 5:29 am Post subject: PORN+MASTERBATION=BAD GAME! |
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I love watching porn as well all men do! However, PORN affects our game in our ATTITUDE. The reason why I say this is because we must have a GOOD ATTITUDE towards our women and not let rubbish spoil our great unique minds!
When you watch porn right? It automatically sends a clear message that this shit is okay. However, it's not! WOMEN aren't OBJECTS and do not like to be used like dirt. Yes, women some times do One-Night Stands; only be cause it's their way of venturing out sexual experiences, then later bragging it about to her friends.
When we recieve this message being communicated on a subconscious level; we soon believe that it's okay to treat women like shit! In PUA it's an important rule to treat women with respect like human beings and also to be honest with them. I don't know about some of the player's out there-but they're doing a good OPEN GAME, but not sealing the deal. Maybe getting to END-GAME but at the end the women run into BUYER'S REMORSE!
Watching PORN affects attitude, while MASTERBATING does give us relief in the moment; however it fucks our GAME up royally. The reason why I say this is because I've noticed when I don't masterbate; my game is good (I am able to approach more sufficently). ALso it takes a toll on our FRAME as well. When done masterbating we thinking women are just our slaves; not true! Women are people just like you and me! Tell me if it's true a woman wants to be throat-fucked, gagging on a huge cock 'til theirs tears coming out of her eyes?! I don't think many women would. Hell, ask Zip-better yet I will! I guarantee that women do not like to be abused. Yes, there are some women that are into kinky shit like burning waxes, whips and chains. But when it comes to abuse and sexually harming another person-it's not okay!
Why do you think there are so many rapists running around the world? I can tell you why! First, they watch ANGRY SEX and confuse it with PLEASURE. So, when they aren't getting any and are SEXUALLY FRUSTRATED-this is when the animal instinct comes out and CAVEMAN's a woman. They don't LISTEN if a woman says no or not. They just want some pussy and they get off struggling with a woman to get in her pants.
This is why PORN+MASTERBATION=NO GAME makes us not perform. After watching PORN and studying Pick Up. You'll soon realize the difference between pleasing the woman in the right manner vs. just assaulting her sexually because you think she wants your wang to bounce on her face, or squirt in her face (possibly blinding her in the long term. LOL! That was a joke guys!).
If you really understand what I'm saying and accept what I'm saying then you'll soon see the difference in your APPROACH and ATTITUDE towards women. The RIGHT ATTITUDE is the correct method of PU.
I'm only basing this on experience and knowledge. If you guys say something otherwise and not agree then it's okay. We all have different viewpoints and opinions. We are family here! We must treat each other like brother and sisters.
Do you think what I'm saying is true guys? If so respond!
Peace out! |
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mentealpha
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| Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 6:03 am Post subject: ejaculation and oriental wisdom |
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| All important Chinese martial arts masters and Taoist monks agree that a man should spare his sperm, since it is the most valuable substance a man possesses, so it makes sense not only not to waste it in masturbation, but also reduce your ejaculations, the more energy you have stored in your body the better, and constant ejaculations will deplete your energy |
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Student X
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I havent masturbated regularly for a while now, feel much better, I went, go 2 days, then 4 then 8, then 16, and now It isnt a habit anymore, I genuinely can't be bothered to wank, albiet not in a lazy sense.
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ace_of_spades
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| Quote: | | (...) done masterbating we thinking women are just our slaves |
Dude, you have some seriously strange epiphanies while masturbating... 
It is a natural human need. Not sure whether we are discussing how masturbation affects your game or whether pornography is 'good' (in whatever sense). As far as game goes, it's all in the mindset. Whatever your view on the subject matter is is reality. If you go around thinking your game's gonna be whack because you've just had a pleasure session, you're right.
I think it was Style who said in one of his interviews that he did not masturbate/come during sex for a while, and it affected his game very negatively. Obviously, there's gonna be plenty people with different opinions. And that's fine, because what works for Style isn't necessarily gonna work for the rest of us.
As far as porn is concerned - I don't even wanna go there. It's entertainment is all. |
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xTxHxExJxOxKxExRx
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i agree with your point, ill be honest i was a chronic masterbater 
but after not having a girl for years played an effect of depression on my mind, it was stop shooting the shotgun stick or use the real shotgun
anyways (AFC for going to different routine YAY) i noticed that when you don't masterbate you become alot more confident and your not so needy
i think it is important that you still masterbate every once in a while (cause if not i heard you can get prostate cancer which i dunno waht that is) but if your sarging, in a relationship or have a girlfriend....save your load for eye cumshots  |
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Mclaren2012
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| Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 2:52 pm Post subject: Re: PORN+MASTERBATION=BAD GAME! |
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| Stealth7 wrote: | I love watching porn as well all men do! However, PORN affects our game in our ATTITUDE. The reason why I say this is because we must have a GOOD ATTITUDE towards our women and not let rubbish spoil our great unique minds!
When you watch porn right? It automatically sends a clear message that this shit is okay. However, it's not! WOMEN aren't OBJECTS and do not like to be used like dirt. Yes, women some times do One-Night Stands; only be cause it's their way of venturing out sexual experiences, then later bragging it about to her friends.
When we recieve this message being communicated on a subconscious level; we soon believe that it's okay to treat women like shit! In PUA it's an important rule to treat women with respect like human beings and also to be honest with them. I don't know about some of the player's out there-but they're doing a good OPEN GAME, but not sealing the deal. Maybe getting to END-GAME but at the end the women run into BUYER'S REMORSE!
Watching PORN affects attitude, while MASTERBATING does give us relief in the moment; however it fucks our GAME up royally. The reason why I say this is because I've noticed when I don't masterbate; my game is good (I am able to approach more sufficently). ALso it takes a toll on our FRAME as well. When done masterbating we thinking women are just our slaves; not true! Women are people just like you and me! Tell me if it's true a woman wants to be throat-fucked, gagging on a huge cock 'til theirs tears coming out of her eyes?! I don't think many women would. Hell, ask Zip-better yet I will! I guarantee that women do not like to be abused. Yes, there are some women that are into kinky shit like burning waxes, whips and chains. But when it comes to abuse and sexually harming another person-it's not okay!
Why do you think there are so many rapists running around the world? I can tell you why! First, they watch ANGRY SEX and confuse it with PLEASURE. So, when they aren't getting any and are SEXUALLY FRUSTRATED-this is when the animal instinct comes out and CAVEMAN's a woman. They don't LISTEN if a woman says no or not. They just want some pussy and they get off struggling with a woman to get in her pants.
This is why PORN+MASTERBATION=NO GAME makes us not perform. After watching PORN and studying Pick Up. You'll soon realize the difference between pleasing the woman in the right manner vs. just assaulting her sexually because you think she wants your wang to bounce on her face, or squirt in her face (possibly blinding her in the long term. LOL! That was a joke guys!).
If you really understand what I'm saying and accept what I'm saying then you'll soon see the difference in your APPROACH and ATTITUDE towards women. The RIGHT ATTITUDE is the correct method of PU.
I'm only basing this on experience and knowledge. If you guys say something otherwise and not agree then it's okay. We all have different viewpoints and opinions. We are family here! We must treat each other like brother and sisters.
Do you think what I'm saying is true guys? If so respond!
Peace out! |
I AGREE! |
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JackyKernels
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| Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 12:05 pm Post subject: |
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i also agree...if u watch to much porn...u dont feel the need to go out anymore...u feel like:
"why shud i go out to WORK for pussy...when i got hot pornstar pussy at home with a click of a button??? even better yet? i can fuck "whoever i want" by just click on the different pornstar name....i can scream as loud as i want.....and dont have to wear a condom or worry about getting her pregnant!! WOW!!!! 10 birds with 1 stone!"
so if u stop masturbating and stop the porno....it will encourage you to go out n work fo da pussay!!! |
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gravesRR7
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| Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Gamblers wrote: |
"why shud i go out to WORK for pussy...when i got hot pornstar pussy at home with a click of a button??? even better yet? i can fuck "whoever i want" by just click on the different pornstar name....i can scream as loud as i want.....and dont have to wear a condom or worry about getting her pregnant!! WOW!!!! 10 birds with 1 stone |
HAHAHA! that's my new motto |
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Juice24
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| Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:11 am Post subject: |
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| I remember, when I quit for a few months back when I was 19 and then I lost my virginity and for some reason I couldnt nut with my girlfriend. And I went for a long time. |
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x3dxFox
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This debate will never die... Every single post about it has truths and lies, people have different sex drives. People have different personalities. To say because It's true for you it must be true for everyone is (by definition) a flawed debate.
Onto your "degrading" comment, I watch porn with girls who go around all sexually repressed( sexual "taboos" become fantasies) and absolutely love the shit they see on the DVDs/Internet. Not all girls' fantasies are softcore, some are hardcore and some are into some shit that is just downright fucked up(But, It's their fantasy.) Porn is there to relieve the sexual repressions of everyday life that plague most people.
Can porn/masturbation be bad for your game? Hell yes
Can porn/masturbation be good for your game? Hell yes
Don't say It's bad because it can be bad. |
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LAMaverick
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| Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 3:59 am Post subject: 21 days |
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| I agree, I gave both up for Lent and I've been able to approach girls a lot easier. |
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Claymore
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| You know, I always thought of the porn thing as bad for a persons image of women in general, but never thought of it as a way to get rid of energy. I think I'll try limiting my, ....exercises.... |
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| Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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| i think masturbation is bad for your game, i completely agreed with what mystery said, about how masturbation is kind of a crutch for not getting any. I mean how many of us has ever came home after a night that ended badly and just squeezed one out? I'm guilty, and its not a real good feeling ya know |
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Jnstyles
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| Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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style tried this, it's in his stylife book at the second part chapter 10.
He tried not to masterbate for 30days and it was becomming negative for him but i couldn't really understand what he was trying to do so just letting you guys know he tried it. |
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el jimbo
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| Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 2:05 pm Post subject: Re: ejaculation and oriental wisdom |
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| mentealpha wrote: | | All important Chinese martial arts masters and Taoist monks agree that a man should spare his sperm, since it is the most valuable substance a man possesses, so it makes sense not only not to waste it in masturbation, but also reduce your ejaculations, the more energy you have stored in your body the better, and constant ejaculations will deplete your energy |
Absolutely correct.
Also it causes depression and nervousness.
In the long run it erodes your virility.
Porn degrades your drive.
If you misuse any tool, you damage it. |
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