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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 3:02 am    Post subject: ok, let's do this. Reply with quote

Backround: I have been that shy kid that just kinda sits back when in a large group, and I have pretty much no experience with women. Well, im 18 and it's my first year of college and I want to change that.

So basically, I have no idea where to begin. I had some success with one girl that I kinda knew from home. We drunkenly hooked up and on the 2nd night I pussied out and failed to close. However, I think I'm pretty much done with her and want to meet some other girls.

Once I get to know someone I think I'm fine as I open up very easily. I'm good at my middle game I guess. My pickup and close need a ton of work though. Like say I'm walking down the street and see some fine girl walking towards me/sitting down/whatever. Since I have no clue how to approach I just end up doing nothing and never meet anyone new unless they are brought to me. I know this question/post is VERY general but any starting tips would be nice. Also, what is a neg?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a lot of advice the gurus at this stuff give to guys with your problem. One of the most common one is opening as many sets as you can (going up to a group of girls and striking up a convo) until you feel totally comfortable doing this. They say the opener doesn't matter, and that you can start it off with a ridiculous question (ie, "Let me ask you a serious question, do you floss before, or after you brush"). Personally, I don't like this sort of meaningless canned material. Make your opener more situational, and make it demonstrate high value (make you look like a cool guy). For instance, you say you hooked up with some girl back home, and that you are new in college. How bout this as an opener:

"Hey girls, let me get your quick opinion on something, but I've gotta get out of here in a couple of minutes to rejoin my friends. I started dating this girl from back home just before coming here, and now she's text messaging me asking me if we are boyfriend/girlfriend. We've dated for two weeks! Why do girls have to put labels on things like this so quickly?"

Girls love relationship questions. You will never find one that isn't intrigued. This question makes it seem like you are dating, a girl wants you, and that you aren't hitting on this group of girls. Just get used to opening, then work on the rest of your game. Oh, and some advice, you are in the PERFECT situation to get over your opening fear. You are new to college and EVERYONE is looking for friends. Approach, approach, approach. You won't be shunned. Also, a neg is a minor insult that you tell a hot girl in order to make her feel like you are "better" than she is. Doing this correctly can make someone out of your league want to date you. This is complicated stuff. Research the Mystery Method for more detail. Also, read Neil Strauss's "the game" and Mystery's new book. Thats where you need to begin. Goodluck, and don't waste this year of college.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kool.....well not kool but i have the same problem (note none of this has been tested yet so dont take me completely seriously but). just randommly look through posts here seriously it sounds like im an idiot but after about 2 days of doing such i feel about 3x more confidence & i am now over my introvertive stage(which sucked so baddly).funny part is this is mayb my....third post lol.so ya im completely new to this also


all in all all that matters is your confidence any guru would tell you this. nothing else matters. all that matters is your inner game. everything else will follow.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good for you, a lot of guys are too lame to try and improve themselves. But hey, start small. Don't be like "I'm gonna fuck 8 hot girls a week", that's unrealistic. Just lose your virginity.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't worry so much about the endgame and closing. Just think about it like a videogame and that you need to keep playing and get through each level as it comes, then before you know it, you're at the final boss and all you've got to do is stick it in the hole.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smurf wrote:
Good for you, a lot of guys are too lame to try and improve themselves. But hey, start small. Don't be like "I'm gonna fuck 8 hot girls a week", that's unrealistic. Just lose your virginity.


dont even worry bout your virginity right now just work on your game meeting as many girls as possile. its simple networking.soon you'll have 10 girls you can game on at any time. then youll have 20 who's begging for it. then you'll have one that takes you V. then youll have 10 the next day.lol seriously though just worry about meeting 1000x girls by the end of the month you damn sure wont acheive it but everyone needs goals Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ive been making goals of sarging at least 10 per day and that has worked well!
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