Since so many women (where i live) these days have become aware of the PUA world etc. i basically decided to stick with something that has always worked for me in seducing women (fast) which is NLP.

During the past months i have developed, learned, practiced and learned some more to the point where i can make almost any girl want me within 30-45 minutes of talking provided that i am in a quiet setting where i can rock my patterns without too much distraction. While this is the core of my success, it is also a major weak spot. The patterns only work in quiet settings such as libraries, coffeeshops, restaurants etc. Hell i almost even managed to break up a 5 yr relationship in the middle of a lounge bar just by talking to the girl for 10 mins. Got 2 mates from the forum here who can testify to that

Anyways, i was wondering if there are any experienced NLP artists on the forum who are willing to exchange ideas and/or patterns regarding an expansion in the use of NLP at clubs, parties etc and what success rate you guys have?

Thanks in advance!

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I actually make my living utilizing NLP, I've used it in sales, I've used it in coaching, I've used it everywhere, yes in seduction as well. I have a friend, a Master Hypnotist who he and I together perfected a model of what we were calling Mind Hack Patterns. This was based on some seriously crazy and weird experiments. My friend is travelling Europe right now without a single dime, only his hypnosis and a cell phone should he need me to wire him some money.

He uses it in clubs all the time. I've used it in clubs, but, I honestly have to say, I'm just not a fan of clubs, so, my experience is limited in the club department.

It uses very basic things you probably know, like the Hypnotic Hello and Eye Brow Flashing, to even more basic Physical anchors, to techniques we've called The Manson Mirror (a powerful form of the hypnotic gaze, matched with some basic hypnotic language, mirroring, and anchors--we reworked the Hypnotic Thief that's on youtube to keep the person conscious and unaware), to utilizing pseudo logic, linkage, awareness, and mind-reading patterns to build instant and powerful rapport. Also, we utilize Tranceformational Metaphors, which, I wrote about in here, as being far more powerful than Hot Words.

I don't know how far you want to take it. For clubs in general, we've found that short language patterns, such as, "The More... the More..." are ultimately the hugest and most powerful technique you can use. "As you... you can..." Adverb/Adjective, "You can EASILY see how shortening your language patterns will Naturally enable women to listen to your demands quite simply." Things like that work incredibly well.

Avoid fractionation in a club setting, in our tests, it fails too often, because, people don't come to the club for an emotional rollercoaster, they come for an emotional high. In quiet settings or when you get the girl alone and sitting with you, then it works, but, when you're just trying to capture her attention, it doesn't. People will seek to connect with the person communicating with them in quiet settings like cafes, in a club however, a woman wants gratification rather than communication (now, obviously, for some women, gratification will come from communication).

There's too much to talk about on a single post.

Hey im very used to picking up women well... Im 21 and can pick up basically anything that walks through my store, havent had the time of day lately to bother picking up outside of work, but within the boundaries of my tiny bottleshop i work at, ive managed to score at least 20 numbers within the past 10 shifts... I however have always been interested in NLP. Im a 6'5 tall guy who hits a gym regularly so that plus my confidence has attributed to the reasons of so many digits.... However once im back at uni(this week), i am looking at approaching girls out of the blue, getting bored at uni... and i was wondering if you could give me a brief rundown of NLP(ive forgotten, i probably use it), and how you use it?

Hey man! For a good introduction into NLP i recomment the book "Introduction to NLP" by O'Connor and McDermott. There is no one post way to explain what NLP is and how to use it Well maybe there is but there is not time to do that right now Good luck!

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Yep... Introducing NLP is definitely a good book. After you're finished with that you can also try Speed Seduction of Ross Jeffries. Damn that guy's such an Asshole but his material is frighteningly effective.

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how do you run a set from beginning to end with nlp?

Actually, the beauty of NLP is that there is no "true" method. There is no strict "do this" and "don't do that" like in other PUA methods. NLP has quite a good arsenal of tools you can use and it's mainly up to your creativity how you use them. However if you have read the books and practised with them quite a lot you really should have no problem with it. Also, for a bigger set, the Mystery Method still works well enough. You can use that up until isolation and then you can use Speed Seducing as a really effective way to start the fireworks.

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Like In$tinct said, there is no step-by-step tutorial when using NLP, it depends on how much you have learned, practiced and also on the creativity of your own mind.

When running NLP game i try to avoid clubs or cafés where i have to yell to be understood. I try to pick lounges and quiet(er) bars for obvious reasons.

Lets assume in this example that i've screened and opened a girl and i've been talking to her for 20-30sec. I than ask her if she believes in "the paranormal" if she says yes, i directly start running (a slightly modified version of) The Cube. If she answers No i go "I bet i can make you change your mind within 10 mins" and again get into The Cube.

Now when i am finished, she has either teared up or is stunned -> Instant Rapport & Compliance. Through the questions that i ask her i have also determined what her main representational system is (VAK), and before she even has the time to snap out of the amazement, i roll into an improvized The Rose pattern based on the person i have in front of me.

I do this with the line "I'm getting a strong vibe that you are a very vivid dreamer, how right am i?" Almost every chick will confirm this fact and then you just ask her to imagine something and tell you about it and continue according to the rose pattern (again, based on your target, not canned)

At the moment i am stuck in this crazy fetish of NLP gaming mixed sets where atleast one of the girls is there with her boyfriend lol but i am trying really hard to not let this become a habit

I dont know how experienced you are with NLP & SS but this is roughly how one of my approaches would happen.

Cheers!

P.S. I'd say that about 6-7 out of 10 girls are receptive to hypnotic language patterns. A good thing to do when screening for receptiveness is to observe a set and notice which of the chicks truly, genuinly, listens to what her friends are talking about. Genuine listeners are often the most receptive ones. (Thanks to Ross Jeffries for this golden tip!)

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@TonyKing I really enjoy reading your posts about NLP.

I recently got into the community and in looking to diversify my game, I came across NLP. I have read the Intro to NLP as you recommended, but...

I seem to be stuck in between conscious incompetence and conscious competence phase of learning.

I'm a visual learner so reading can be difficult, but I still enjoy reading.

My question for you: how did you switch into the conscious competence phase of learned material so that you can use it in field?

Hey man! I appreciate your comment!

This is kind of a hard question because i dont analyze my learning to the extent of cutting it up in phases like the steps from unconscious incompetence to unconscious competence.

The way it worked for me is that i first read intro to nlp and then started to learn about the transfer of personal energies, intent and the power of the mind in general. In NLP, speech and language are perhaps 30-35% of the whole package. It is also about your posture, tone of voice, your intent and your self-esteem. Patterns are merely a tool, the skills of the craftsman are developed from within.

After that i started to learn and memorize patterns (also non-related to PUA) and the structure of the NLP language in general. A great book for this is "The Big Book of NLP Techniques" by Shlomo Vaknin.

When you understand a certain canned pattern and how it works, you can start to change it, tweak it and disect it to see if you can improve or change its effect. Test it on people both in its original and altered form and see if you can make it happen. This was my key to learning before i enrolled in my NLP practitioner course.

Needless to say, practice is key and you can practice on not only girls but also your friends, family and people in college / at work etc.

I understand that for a visual learner, learning by text can be a bit of a challenge. But on the other hand there are tons of video-courses out there to purchase filled with real-life examples of how NLP works and how you build your skills and your set both in PUAism and in life in general.

I hope my answer has been able to bring you some clarity even if the answer perhaps wasnt question-specific

All the best!

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Your answer couldn't have been more perfect, thank you!

I actually picked up the "Big Book of NLP Patterns" today and had to put it down b/c it's 700 pages or so long haha

I've basically gone on information overload the past few weeks with NLP to become aware of what's out there, now I'm going to start to backtrack and learn the material.

It sounds like learning the patterns are great, because once you learn the basic patterns, you can then tweak them to your liking/situation.

Good stuff. Are you located in the states or are you international?

Glad you liked it! Nope, im international Amsterdam, The Netherlands.

Information overloads can be huge de-motivators so its only a good thing you've noticed the overload lol.

I wish you all the luck in the world on your way to NLP mastery and if you have any questions or so, just write to one of the NLP-smart PUAs on the forum. A lot of knowledge to be gained in this place

Happy Hunting!

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Thank you so much.

I recently was able to catch a little bit of Ross Jeffries' stuff online (seminars) and it really opened me up to what NLP was about.

Seeing it visually really helped me out, and now I feel like I'll be able to move ahead in my discovery of NLP learning.

Tony, are you on Facebook? If not, then make a profile and then PM me the link to your facebook profile. I made an SS/NLP seduction facebook group and would like you to join it.