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tk750
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 10:26 pm    Post subject: New Newbie Missions Reply with quote

I know about that conventional Newbie Mission where you go up to random women and say hello. But seriously, for a person who's just trying to get into PUA, that itself is pretty tough.

From my personal experience, I tried to do it in the mall. I just heard of PUA and was anxious to try this mission. I approached at most 3 people and every time I was scared. You could feel the negative energy around me.

So in essence, we need better, more gradual newbie missions to slowly work a newb into PUA form. And I strongly recommend that all PUAs should actively help newbs in their community out by showing them how its done. After all, you too were once a newb.

Not to leave me out, of course. Out of all humility, I consider myself a newb. So thus, the purpose of this thread is to ask people for their ideas and suggestions as to how to make these Newbie missions more effective towards developing a PUA.

The whole reason why I believe it is necessary to have some sort of training regiment is because most people just read about PUA in some book or online, visit the forum, make a few posts, and then never practice it, thus becoming an AFC for life. To me, that's just wasted potential. The Newb mission itself may be so daunting that they may be discouraged to give up. Hell, I felt like that, sitting on a bench in the mall, with my face in between my eyes, shaking from that rush. I didn't open a PUA book for months.

But now I'm back from my long trip to AFC land and looking for adventure.

For my first idea, which is very easy, easy enough for the biggest AFC's to do is to start normal conversations at their social gathering (school, college, work, church etc.) with people they don't normally talk to. That just to get rid of the social anxiety. Try to think of topics to think about, it could be anything. Hell, be creative.

Then talk to ppl outside of your social gathering, like some stranger on a Starbucks line. Fuck it, you could be talking about the freaking color of the coffee mugs for all I care.

Then an escalation to this is to focus on girls (they can be ugly too) to talk to. Talk about anything, from the weather, to the flowers. Just try to keep the conversation going for let's see... 5 minutes. And then do that for one day. Talk to all the girls that you know for at least 5 minutes. For some, this challenge may be intimidating. Also, try not to use any canned material. Remember, we're trying to build confidence here.

I guess then, you could either challenge yourself by making sure you can speak for 10 minutes 15 min., 20 etc. going on or go out to random groups and use openers. When opening to a group, just open and then leave. You don't even need the social hook, just get their opinion, say have a nice day, and leave. That way, you could feel as if you actually wanted their opinions.

Remember newbs, this is training, so its going to be tough. But you've gotta be tough too and remember that without any pain, there's no game.

If you're interested in training, I'm in the NJ/NY area, high school age. PM me. Reminder, I'm a noob too so don't expect a mPUA lol.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



Next point is to set yourself in a learning frame. Meaning you have to let go of not only your ego but let go of your outcome. Just focus on opening and learning from it.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 3:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was reading one of the old topics the other day and someone had the good advice of just opening everyone and every thing. I seriously think thats good advice. Not just girls you find appealing but old people, your parents, teachers, the person next to you in line. Just talk to any one and every one. I find that helped me to get over social anxiety. Talk about any thing, weather, current events, the store/school/bar whatever that your in. All though I would definitely advise it be positive whatever you say, otherwise your taking two steps forward one step back.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 3:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

my best advice (im currently using, and i got from a PUA on here) is to talk to everyone first, doesn't matter who it is, anyone, (old people, clerks, people in stores, parents, teens, etc...) ask how are they doing, ask about the weather, tell them something interesting and ask for their thoughts, say they look nice today, anything, whatever it is try to get them talking too

this helps people who are really shy get used to being alpha, just remember if your shy, this will feel uncomfortable and you must keep at it no matter what (you might feel like "Why the hell did i say that, or this is not me", that is completely normal) it is also good if you make mistakes in this stage, so you can learn from your errors and know how and what to say so it comes out smooth

Keep up the sarging, hope it was good,

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 3:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Best piece of advice i can give is this. " Expect to get kicked in the balls, a slap in the face is a success" basically just do it as Kosmo said "youve only got 28,000 days to live do it now lifes to short" best way is too do it. Doesnt have to be a stunning HB10 it could be a guy at a bus stop, ask him for the time or what bus hes getting or it could be at a higher level.Justmake sure your talkin to people at your own level and build up
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 4:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

they way i did it and still doing is to 1st lock eyes with randoms in the street. stare those people down. u are the ALPHA MALE not them. show it by first learning to lock eyes and watch in triumph as they look away. its rare to find somone who will lock eyes back at you but i think of that as a game, seeing who can last longer. a game of chicken
after u are comfortable with eye contact u can just say one liners to randoms. after a while your AA will be gone and u can progress
then u try and keep a small conversation going. no expectation or anything. you can b talking to a grandmother or a store hand. (im just starting to try this one so bear with me)
my next plan is to have a full on convo for 15 mins. after im good with that move on to the HBs i want.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 6:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jacks wrote:
they way i did it and still doing is to 1st lock eyes with randoms in the street.


I don't think this is a good idea. At least take care because, I don't know where do you live but, if you do it where I live you migh get into troubles...

and I don't live in the any bronx or anything!

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 6:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

personally i think a good place to start is at work for example i work in a retail store so people are constantly comeing in i think a simple "hello " to every person is a good start followed by of course "u need help finding anything" this is slowly but surely working for me my friends have even been telling me that ive been super chatty lately so i feel that it is working because before i barely spoke at all
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 9:50 am    Post subject: Re: New Newbie Missions Reply with quote

tk750 wrote:
I know about that conventional Newbie Mission where you go up to random women and say hello. But seriously, for a person who's just trying to get into PUA, that itself is pretty tough.

How does that mission go exactly? Is that one where you're supposed to go to a crowded location and just have to say hello with as many woman as possible?

Anyway as another newbie with AA I think that it is important to not have to high expectations of yourself. Don't expect to open 100 woman if you have rarely done that. Not that you should not have such a goal in the back of your mind and try to reach it. But realise that you are likely not going to get that goal the first time. I think most of us newbs probably have our anxiety get the best of us more than once the first couple of times. Just be nice to yourself and respect yourself for each and every approach you made or even going out to do that. Every approach is another victory over anxiety. Reward yourself afterwards just for trying by doing something you enjoy. Don't beat yourself up over approaches not made. And if the goal is to hard to achieve I think it is indeed best to replace it with an easier one.

About an easier newbie mission I think the one in this thread is great:
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