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Please delete at the very least one of your posted links(I'd prefer both as he is a poor example of someone who is "The Man")

Man seriously, this pick up is solid but not so impressive that it deserves to be posted everywhere on this forum and including this thread. I'm not like oh wow he has a ton of charisma. I don't see that with him. He is confident, but charisma not so much, he lacks in conversation wit from moment to moment. Most of his answers seem very manufactured.

He starts out screaming to catch attention. That is not having the presence I am speaking of. I think he should flirt more to build attraction faster. I would also have added a light upper arm touch, something charismatic people do is some how get touch in there. Studies show more attraction is built faster with a light upper arm touch.

He doesn't mirror her to much, or at least I don't see it in the video.

I love how he starts I just had to talk to you.

I don't like how he steps in front of her, it is pretty threatening. I guess it is a tactic he probably gained from trying not to just get walked past. It just seems super aggressive.

His questions start out flat and lack individuality, I wrote a section on unique diction for a reason, he lacked unique diction. What are you doing in this weather? He really needed that American accent to get his conversation started, he was flat and wasn't doing anything real impressive to get her to respond.

He uses some illustrators but he doesn't quite use them efficiently enough to come across with charisma. He never really builds a connection, charismatic people find ways to connect with people. There is a connection charismatic people have the ability to create that he never made.

He wasn't very good at building comfort and it took some convincing to get her to go with him. It would have been much easier if he just said "Hey I don't have much time, but I'm enjoying this conversation thoroughly. We should continue this over the cup of coffee you were planning on grabbing anyways." As he gets her to shake her head yes or affirm with her body language by using his body language, he just says "Great, I know a solid spot around the block." And just lead in the direction. I do love how he assumed it though and just went with it. He maneuvered very well around the shit test.

Perhaps I place my standards to high but he doesn't have that connection building, comfort building, rapport building, "charisma" of being "The Man" I describe in this thread. It disappoints me that people who never even read the whole thread would place this on here, he doesn't do much of anything I talk about.

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The Sweet Sound of Our Name

We all love the sound of our name, so naturally it makes us feel better(unless hearing your full name reminds you of getting in trouble with mom and dad). You hear your name and it is right there with hearing someone say "I Love You!" It is quite the wonderful experience. Nothing really special about this.

Don't over use saying her name but certainly say it more often then never. It also shows you took enough personal interest in her to remember her name. So use it more often then most but avoid using it in every sentence.

A nice tool you can add to your cabinet that most people already know is using your audiences name.

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Just bumping this thread.... It's been a minute.

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TMy low self esteem made me believe I wasn't worthy or I didn't deserve it, which in turn reflected in my body language and micro movements, which is subconciously picked up by the girl and my attraction decreased.



This is pretty much me right now, things are dire and need a change. All of the above tips seem to make a lot of sense, I'll be looking to put them into practice to try & boost my confidence!

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Oh if any of you were following this thread I put my full 18 part series of videos on Alpha Body language up in the video section on the forum here.

alpha-body-language-video-series-vt139475.html

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your shit is pretty right on! i like your videos, although i would put some kind of interactive part into them. like, if you tell someone "put your shoulders back", it's not the same as if you demonstrate.

i would comment on all the stuff you wrote here but it's a lot of material and i only read a bit, but it's cool stuff. keep on it.


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Zepter wrote:
your shit is pretty right on! i like your videos, although i would put some kind of interactive part into them. like, if you tell someone "put your shoulders back", it's not the same as if you demonstrate.

i would comment on all the stuff you wrote here but it's a lot of material and i only read a bit, but it's cool stuff. keep on it.


Thanks for the love bro, I haven't added anything for a minute I really need to but I got so much other shit rolling around blog, a month behind on my show, and trying to start another show. I don't make enough money to take time off so it's hard.

When I did the Alpha video it was when I had less know how in the video department. I didn't understand editing, and I didn't really have a place to stand to shoot the video either. I am planning on shooting this video again and adding at least one more section to it, it should be a bit better. I also was thinking of finding more alpha video clips now that I know how to add them but we'll see if I can use myself as an example I may not need them.

When I re-do this series it will be a small email boot camp thing watch a video a day and it will help correct your body language by helping you focus on one thing at a time. I will make note to make sure it is more interactive next video, thank you for the feedback, I've been looking for more and haven't got much except more example clips.

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i copy and pasted 7 pages of material....gonna be a good read and am excited. your material is a mixture of David D'angelo and Dale Carnegie - good stuff.


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"The Man", 9 times out of 10 is just himself no matter what anyone else thinks.

If you've read N Strauss's book 'The Game' there's a chapter where he meets Tom Cruise and you can see how Neil feels the AMOG pouring out of him just because he doesn't give a shit about anyone else and does his own thing no matter what.

The people who say "Stand up straight, shoulders back" are right, but if you discover your own self worth then you'll find yourself standing straighter and more confident than you ever would have before.

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i copy and pasted 7 pages of material....gonna be a good read and am excited. your material is a mixture of David D'angelo and Dale Carnegie - good stuff.


Appreciate your gratitude, hope you enjoy. Ask any questions you may have.

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"The Man", 9 times out of 10 is just himself no matter what anyone else thinks.

If you've read N Strauss's book 'The Game' there's a chapter where he meets Tom Cruise and you can see how Neil feels the AMOG pouring out of him just because he doesn't give a shit about anyone else and does his own thing no matter what.

The people who say "Stand up straight, shoulders back" are right, but if you discover your own self worth then you'll find yourself standing straighter and more confident than you ever would have before.

Thyde


Read some of the thread then make a comment, it's reflects poorly on you when you don't read through a bit of the thread. That is where it starts, it also starts with inner game in the very first post. It goes over people skills and building rapport. I'm all for adding more information to the thread but I already had an opinion argument, that isn't the point of this thread. It's to teach people to gain the assets to become "The Man" both mental and social assets of it.

I would update a bit of things (gaining inner game) if I started this thread but the content is still golden over all. There is a lot more to this thread then you may think.

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That was just my two cents, I'm not here to win peoples approval but if what I say helps then i don't really care if it reflects badly on me. Didn't have the time to read through 7 pages haha.

Just thought I'd add what I think is one of the most important points in case it wasn't there already.

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That was just my two cents, I'm not here to win peoples approval but if what I say helps then i don't really care if it reflects badly on me. Didn't have the time to read through 7 pages haha.

Just thought I'd add what I think is one of the most important points in case it wasn't there already.

Thyde


Why do we have to read your opinion but you are unwilling to read the actual thread?(Narcissistic much?) Your opinion of The Man isn't the guy I'm talking about, "he doesn't give a shit about anyone else and does his own thing no matter what." Is close, but this thread isn't about being a self centered man, it is about being comfortable, not worrying about anyone else, and doing your own thing but also someone who is "The Man" has way too many great relationships and friendships for him to be this narcissistic.

You are willing to write not read (sign of arrogance, not confidence. Someone arrogant isn't The Man, people like and love The Man but not Arrogant folks). Try out reading the thread, you may learn a few things. It's not about winning approval it's about not coming on to hi-jack a good thread with your opinion based off reading a book like The Game, I love the book but really? That is what you bring of value to here? There is at least a couple thousand pages more I read that I based this thread on here and you are going to come on here with that? Sorry but if the information you are drawing from is The Game you are already way behind.

I apologize for being an asshole but you shouldn't come on her and start adding your "two cents" when you don't even read the thread. Honestly you have no idea what the thread entails (a whole 7 pages total) and yet you come on here and start saying if this was included. Your opinion isn't that important to this thread, in fact your thoughts on "The Man" aren't what I was saying. This thread isn't at all about AMOG, it is about gaining charisma, presence, and people skills, there are a ton of people in this world that have all those assets and they aren't named Tom Cruise. There are people out there who just have great social skills, confidence, and rapport abilities, these people are the ones who I am talking about. It's not about Alpha or AMOGing anyone.

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You don't have to be self centered to have be completely secure with yourself - and the point of what I said was that finding that security and being happy with who you are will bring you much better presence than any instructions like 'head up, shoulders back, smile'

I'm not going to try and defend myself, especially seeing as I'm new here.

I'll read it all when I have time at the weekend as the first page already seems like it has a lot of information to help with where I lack which is making people around me feel important.

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This was a great read, and I want to add on that none of this has to be applied to pick up. Apply it to your lives, your inner game becomes extraordinarily enhanced.

There are many key points that I will definitely use, but there are things that I won't use because it is not congruent with my style and behavior.

I advise that people do the same, don't just copy every single thing that was posted, you will come off as incongruent, and just another person with no individuality.

As said earlier by Poetic, you want to be distinguished, if you copy everything that Poetic does, who are you really? You're Poetic. You can still be "The Man" with different traits, but at least, you're your own person.

Just wanted to add that, and I have learned A LOT from this which has humbled me greatly.


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