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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 1:05 am Post subject: Mystery and Matador on CNN |
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| They were on CNN tonight (FEB 10th) which is great. With more publicity comes more customers which as we all know result to most of us living a better, happier more fulfilling life. The only worry I have is that the game will eventually fall into the wrong hands. I've heard/seen examples of that happening but I'm talking on a much larger scale. Suppose The Game gets so big (which it will) people start abusing it which gives all PUA's a bad reputation. We will ultimately become the black sheep of society. Most women already think what Mystery is doing objectifies women and degrades them. Imagine when they encounter PUA's with bad intentions. Ones that forget about "Leave them better than you found them." I think it's great people have access to this information and can use it to better themselves. At the same time I feel that the same information is too attainable and will fall into the wrong hands. What are your opinions? |
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mozyFresh PUA Forum Leader
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 1:19 am Post subject: |
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| Women will always say they hate it. Because they know it is powerful and it works. After years of men being frustrated with women it would only be a matter of time before men worked it out to turn things around. These women are hypercrits, think of all the dating advice they have in magazines, how many books there are out there for women, but as soon as men start doing the same thing they get pissed. They think its all about tricks and only stuff for players. They got it all it wrong. |
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xxIcexx PUA Forum Leader
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 1:48 am Post subject: |
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| Once is became mainstream, women knew about it and the basics. If what you are projecting is true, they will know about opinion openers which a good 75% off new people use as a crutch. So once some lame comes up and asks for an opinion, they will be able to weed out the people they dont want in their lives, such as the PUA's. That is why it is better to learn the structure and apply your own material. It is alot harder, but more natural and free flowing. Don't worry about the M3 model or the phases, once you really gain enough knowledge, you will know where you stand. |
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:15 am Post subject: |
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| mozyFresh wrote: | | Women will always say they hate it. Because they know it is powerful and it works. After years of men being frustrated with women it would only be a matter of time before men worked it out to turn things around. These women are hypercrits, think of all the dating advice they have in magazines, how many books there are out there for women, but as soon as men start doing the same thing they get pissed. They think its all about tricks and only stuff for players. They got it all it wrong. |
You are making women seem as if they don't want to be happy and seduced. It's like David D says, no woman wakes up and says to herself "Today I will not be swept off my feet." Women are dying for men who know how to push their buttons. I've had lots of girls tell me to help out other guys because they love me. As soon as most women find out about the game, they feel very used because they've probably come across someone that gamed them and took advantage of them. Even at first glance, the game seems really sexist and degrading. Only once you get into it do you understand what it's really about. |
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Hobbit PUA Forum Leader
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:30 am Post subject: |
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I'd hate to burst your bubble, but this stuff is mainstream. I will dare say that the large majority of this forum are only here because they discovered it through the mainstream. Granted, I found the theory through a google search years ago, I still didn't know about the "Community" aspect of it. Just like the majority of people, I am here because it's mainstream.
Nonetheless, making it mainstream will not mean anything. Most people just don't have the motivation to learn this stuff, it's a lot to learn. The people who historically been motivated to learn this, will be the ones to continue to learn it. I know of many of my friends who have started to learn this stuff after seeing it in the main stream, just to get a basic knowledge and go about using their natural game.
I really don't think this stuff is going to be nearly as widespread as you think. It may be known of, but the majority of the people will not spend the time to get good at it. |
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:35 am Post subject: |
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| More and more people are becoming PUAs. This stuff sounds completely crazy when you see Mystery talk about it on the news BUT once you see a guy in a bar with 6 girls around him and you hear he used Mystery's Method, you kind of get a bit more motivation therefore being more likely to end up a PUA. I've been seeing more and more guys on buses or the street use canned material. |
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gravesRR7 PUA Forum Addict
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 4:06 am Post subject: |
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| anyone have a link to see this show? |
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 4:12 am Post subject: |
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| What did they talk about on CNN? |
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mozyFresh PUA Forum Leader
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 4:38 am Post subject: |
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quote 'You are making women seem as if they dont want to be happy and seduced'
What women say and what they really want are too different things. They want men they are attracted to, but they dont want to feel they where used by a PUA.
quote 'only once you get into it do you understand what its really about'
Exactly, but these girls aint into it and they dont understand. They think they are being tricked by player PUA's.
Thats why its best to develope your game, so you dont come across as obvious. |
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 5:01 am Post subject: |
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| mozyFresh wrote: | quote 'You are making women seem as if they dont want to be happy and seduced'
What women say and what they really want are too different things. They want men they are attracted to, but they dont want to feel they where used by a PUA.
quote 'only once you get into it do you understand what its really about'
Exactly, but these girls aint into it and they dont understand. They think they are being tricked by player PUA's.
Thats why its best to develope your game, so you dont come across as obvious. |
When I said women want to be seduced, I never asked them. It's just fucking obvious. |
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 5:19 am Post subject: |
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| i believe more people with check this site out now. its a good thing for people who just want to get a girl and keep her. but if others just want to pick up girls, fuck them, and kick her to the curb, then this would be bad. just read the new users post count, and read what they posted. if they're asking questions like how can i open this kind of set? then it would sound like that person really wants help. but if someone comes in here and ask how do i fuck this hot babe? then hes obviously up to no good because he sounds like he just wants to get some ass. thats my opinion |
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Nonetheless, making it mainstream will not mean anything. Most people just don't have the motivation to learn this stuff, it's a lot to learn. The people who historically been motivated to learn this, will be the ones to continue to learn it. I know of many of my friends who have started to learn this stuff after seeing it in the main stream, just to get a basic knowledge and go about using their natural game. |
I couldn't agree more. Pickup is extremely difficult and requires dedication, commitment, the ability to get out of your comfort zone and to tolerate embarrassment. It's like the gym - everybody knows you can get ripped if you work out 4 times a week, but how many guys actually have the perseverance to go through with it? You'd think with gyms becoming mainstream everybody would become physically fit all of a sudden - never happened. Same with pickup. It's the few with motivation and the drive who will actually reach mastery. |
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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I couldn't really care if they were on CNN or not, I'll watch it on youtube ofcourse. But appart from that I couldn't really care, I only use about 1% of what they teach and girls can't catch me on the 1%. And that 1% is all about self improvement so it's all me So bring on the girls that know about game. |
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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I like your idea about the gym compared to PUA. But there is a difference, going to the gym doesn't teach how to become a ladies man and get you laid, men are much more motovated by the idea of having sex with a gorgeous girl. But there is a similarity, people lazy & this stuff is hard work, is hurts sometimes just like lifting, it costs money and requires time and patience to get the right results, an not everybody can do it.
I like your example but this has the potential to become even bigger than the gym |
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Hobbit PUA Forum Leader
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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| mozyFresh wrote: | I like your idea about the gym compared to PUA. But there is a difference, going to the gym doesn't teach how to become a ladies man and get you laid, men are much more motovated by the idea of having sex with a gorgeous girl. But there is a similarity, people lazy & this stuff is hard work, is hurts sometimes just like lifting, it costs money and requires time and patience to get the right results, an not everybody can do it.
I like your example but this has the potential to become even bigger than the gym |
Last time I checked being fit is a really helpful tool in getting laid. You get approached from it, girls talk about you with other girls from it (Social proof), and it gives you an alpha look. I know of plenty of guys who get girls just because of their body (the girls never stay long, but they get them nonetheless). Just because you can attract girls with verbal switches doesn't mean that being ripped isn't good for attraction. It speaks for itself. |
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