Has anyone here read the Venusion Arts Handbook? How long does it take to completely use everything in practice because i have found it very hard to get to grips with everything that the handbook goes through.

Vive....

Man I read it two months ago, I m still trying to internalize all the process of this good book, but I can't do all that things naturally, so for or question I think depends how much you go out and practise all that tecnics...

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PAQUITAO

It all depends on how often you go out, how fast you progress, how eager to learn you are, and who you wing with.

I'll tell people that they can learn more from 4 hours of in field work than they can of 4 days of reading.

Logically, the more you go out, the more experience you get and therefore, the more you improve. Going out only once a week is not nearly as good as going out 5 times a week, understand?

Also, depending on the person, if you have a knack for PU then you may progress faster than someone who is way worse off than AFC. You get what you put into it.

One final point, haveing a wing who knows what he (or she) is doing is very helpful. He can help you identify your sticking points, point out what you did wrong in set, give you in set advice (which is quite tricky), and help get rid of obsticles for you. A good wing is KEY.

To help you find a wing, I would suggest to check the local lair or check out PAIR:
http://www.fastseduction.com/pair.shtml
both are great places to find someone who is about your level, and in the local area.

~Kurent

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K.

very good post. I am seriously considering buying Mystery's book.
I think going out, not neccesarily to talk to girls but ALSO to observe other guys style and interactions is pretty good. I want to go out and practice approaching girls but also practice observing body language when girls are flirting to other guys and stuff like that.

are there any cheaper versions of Mystery's Method book?

thanks to all.

what your email i will try and send you a copy of it?

paquitao have you gone out to practice the techniques in the MM book?

if you don't have a whole lot of liquid to spare, you should ask a friend or two to split the VAH, DYD, etc. It is cheap, you get an instant wing, and you'll be competitive in your game. Helping each other while having some friendly competition (who can open the best, build comfort, etc.) will improve your skill set immensely.

i'll tell ya i read it just a while ago and after not practising for a week i had to re-read it so after that i just did a note version of it for myself so i could read 24pages instead of 200+ pages i read it every few weeks so it impirnts in my memory

Oh ok, have you been using that in the field then? Is the stuff good?

I have only read chapter 3 of the VAH and it seems quite good, but definetly a bit advanced. I bought DYD and it is very easy read and gives you basic insight.

I am looking forward to buying the VAH and finding a wingman...but damm, it is sort of hard to find a good wingman.

Best Mystery Article. Hands Down: http://cliffslist.com/index.php/mystery ... -olympics/

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