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Perhaps I'm overthinking this conversation thing. But it is necessary to say SOMETHING out of this ordinary besides an exchange of cash for sex.

Why would it? you're paying for sex not for entertainment.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:45 pm 
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So in bars/clubs, I'm supposed to be entertaining them with conversation?

Btw, last time I was at a bar, I sat silent and looked around. Basically no one is doing this successfully. Most guys don't approach, the ones that do usually don't get very far and it seems like the girls are just there to have a good time with their girlfriends.


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HockeyFan987987 wrote:
So in bars/clubs, I'm supposed to be entertaining them with conversation?

Btw, last time I was at a bar, I sat silent and looked around. Basically no one is doing this successfully. Most guys don't approach, the ones that do usually don't get very far and it seems like the girls are just there to have a good time with their girlfriends.


I was out a few nights back, and it was like the first time in like a YEAR where I noticed a guy make an approach on some girls who were seated. I go out a fair bit, have been for years. I'm always observant and and it's amazing how infrequently you notice guys approach girls. He didn't get anywhere with the girls, but he tried, God bless him!

He was Canadian. The girls were 3 gorgeous Polish girls.

I'm in the UK. I imagine guys approach much more often in the US! I think the whole pickup culture must be a different world out there due to everyone being so much more social/friendly towards strangers.

My friends who get laid get it ALL through tinder (and occasional work hookups) for what it's worth

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 2:29 pm 
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I live in the United States.

Even crowded clubs can remind you of 4th grade dances where the guys are afraid to approach the girls.

I need to be one of those cool guys who approaches. I have no trouble doing it online.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 3:09 pm 
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HockeyFan987987 wrote:
So in bars/clubs, I'm supposed to be entertaining them with conversation?

You're supposed to entertain yourself.


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Btw, last time I was at a bar, I sat silent and looked around. Basically no one is doing this successfully. Most guys don't approach, the ones that do usually don't get very far and it seems like the girls are just there to have a good time with their girlfriends.[/quote]
That really shouldn't be a surprise.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 3:43 pm 
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Seems like another case of the "typical questions". There are a few things you want to avoid in a bar setting which would be things like asking the typical AFC/guy questions. I wrote an article about it a few years ago. Women don't want to be interviewed. Some of these questions are "what do you do for work?" "What's your major?" Where are you from?, Etc.

By asking these questions you will come off as an average Joe or a typical guy. Women hear these questions from every other guy. Set yourself apart from the pack by being a cut above the rest.

After you open make statements about them or yourself.
And absolutely never talk about religion or politics!
No religion
No politics

Also I suggest that you make yourself "interesting" not interested. Social Proof and become the center of attention.

Women don't want to talk about work they want a man that will blow their mind.

Give high fives and build attraction through real social connection and touch.

Women want men with exciting lives. Snowboarders, rock climbers, rock band members. Talk music, jokes, snowboarding or your awesome vacation to Japan. Don't talk about boring ass work. Just don't go there in the first place.

I'm decent at mid-game and am willing to answer any questions you might have. I hope I can help.


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Magic90210 wrote:
Seems like another case of the "typical questions". There are a few things you want to avoid in a bar setting which would be things like asking the typical AFC/guy questions. I wrote an article about it a few years ago. Women don't want to be interviewed. Some of these questions are "what do you do for work?" "What's your major?" Where are you from?, Etc.

By asking these questions you will come off as an average Joe or a typical guy. Women hear these questions from every other guy. Set yourself apart from the pack by being a cut above the rest.

After you open make statements about them or yourself.
And absolutely never talk about religion or politics!
No religion
No politics

Also I suggest that you make yourself "interesting" not interested. Social Proof and become the center of attention.

Women don't want to talk about work they want a man that will blow their mind.

Give high fives and build attraction through real social connection and touch.

Women want men with exciting lives. Snowboarders, rock climbers, rock band members. Talk music, jokes, snowboarding or your awesome vacation to Japan. Don't talk about boring ass work. Just don't go there in the first place.

I'm decent at mid-game and am willing to answer any questions you might have. I hope I can help.


I hope I can even get to mid game at this point.

I'm still stuck on prostitutes, actually.


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Well atleast you're getting laid. It's better than a lot of other guys are doing. Make sure to select the best "call girls" for yourself and don't waste too much doe on um.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2017 1:51 pm 
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Paying for sex is better than a lot of guys?

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2017 1:53 am 
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R.C wrote:
Paying for sex is better than a lot of guys?


I can't speak for everyone in The world and it depends on someone's view on the subject. If they have morals or values or they don't have them. Depends on their views towards ethics and what is considered taboo or acceptable in their area. For example solicitation of sex is legal in Las Vegas and in other areas of the world you can explore exotic bordellos if one seeks a taste of debauchery and hedonism.

As for doing better than a lot of other guys I can't really speak for everyone.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2017 7:26 am 
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Views, morals or legislation have nothing to do with it.

You're paying for something most guys get for free. That's not "doing better" than them.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2017 11:36 am 
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R.C wrote:
Views, morals or legislation have nothing to do with it.

You're paying for something most guys get for free. That's not "doing better" than them.


I'm not sure that most people here get it for free.

I think the sugar babies will be my step to getting comfortable around women.


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I get it for free....

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2017 3:51 pm 
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Mr. Assertive wrote:
I get it for free....


Well good for you.

Are they hot?

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I need serious help with this.

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