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PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2017 11:53 pm 
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I have never really been a club guy. I like going occasionally when im super drunk but usually i just like chilling at a bar. But these are casual things and sometimes i wanna get into something interesting. I travel a bit and hate doing the same thing over and over.

But maybe thats what girls like? I'll talk to a girl and get contact info or whatever and 90% of the time ill invite them to do something (go out to dinner, walk around the city check out the beach) and theyll reject it. The times when they have accepted its to go out to a bar or club to get drunk. Then i feel like a weirdo/babysitter cause i forget women cant hold their liquor like guys can and i drink a lot. So i end up not even getting buzzed by the time theyre wasted and then i have to make sure they get home safe and i cant hook up with them.

Anyway i digress. Could that be whats killing me? Inviting girls out to places i find interesting instead of just doing something 'normal'? Because to me the club/bar is where i go when ive got nothing else going on so its a bit of a last resort. But when i do go i see the same people there so maybe im just trying to do too much too soon?


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 2:04 am 
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Get out of the bars and do daygame.

In general, do things and go places you like.

Be a leader. Find people who are good fits for your life. You are around the wrong type of person right now.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 3:02 am 
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Why not cut the bar date in half, and then go home with them?

If you're worried more about long walks in the park than making a gorgeous woman orgasm, then your sex drive might not be what it is for most guys.

I'm not a huge club guy either. But I understand social dynamics, and what it represents. If you want to get close with a woman, you have sex with her, and she'll open up to you in bed, naked.

Your dates should be one hour at a venue that serves drinks (neither she nor you has to drink...these are just better places for first dates).

This is where you determine if a woman is interesting enough to invest in further (like an afternoon spend in the mountains, etc).

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 3:11 am 
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"I have never really been a club guy."

Going to have to way disagree with the post above me.

You do not have to have alcohol involved to have a date.

Go for coffee, same easy outs and it allows you to display your personality.

Plenty of lays happen off coffee dates.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 3:13 am 
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lol at coffee dates. Very few things say "I'm inexperienced with women" more than inviting them out for a coffee in the afternoon.

And if you read my post, you'd know I said neither person has to drink alcohol. Bars/clubs are just better first date venues.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 3:23 am 
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How old are you?

Are you aware how many people go on coffee dates everyday?

Are you aware how many people don't even go to bars?

There are like 100's of daygame PUA's out there.

Do you think these guys are taking those girls to nightclubs?

People who don't drink get laid, too.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 9:04 am 
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chi31fan35 wrote:

Are you aware how many people go on coffee dates everyday?



Are you aware that 95% of men are socially/emotionally retarded, and they make all those coffee dates?

What are you doing with your days? I work. If I'm not working, I'm working out. If I'm not working out, I'm exploring my hobbies. If I'm not doing that, I'm reading. Night is when hard working people relax. It's also when they make dates.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 1:44 am 
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You can go get coffee at night.

Don't discount in total man. Most of my lays have come off coffee dates.

I literally have never had a lay off the bars/clubs because I don't like them.

I think OP is in the place in his life where he doesn't like bars/drunk people.

This happens and he is better off doing things he enjoys.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 2:16 am 
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If 90% of the time women are rejecting your date idea, its because they're not that interested in YOU. Chick wants to hang out and she'll agree to a walk, dinner or whatever. Its most likely not what you suggest to do, its you're in person or online game. Fix that and then figure out what works for you.


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