how to handle a huge bitch shield...(crash and burn)

dutchseduction

hallo, last saturday i had a very bad night. I wanted to run an opener on a 3 set, but they didn't wanted to cooperate with the opener.

ME: hey there, may i ask u a quick question?
HB: no...(bitchy look)
ME to her friends: is she always like this?
friends: yes... bye

wtf did i do wrong, i smiled, i approached from the right angle wtf.

bye.

diapente · Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 5:37 am Post subject:

HOW did you ask the question? When using openers, you have to have some sort of energy about you. There's a diference between:

"ummm... hi... can I... umm... ask you like... a... question?"

And:

"*HEY*. Can I ask you a question?"

Not saying that you did the first example, but if you're going to approach a set, you want to be more direct and "forceful" with your opener.

And well... hey - sometimes sets are full of frigid bitches!

Act · Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 9:28 am Post subject:

sushi · Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 1:17 pm Post subject:

yep that happened 2 me as well - the leader of the group (the question wasn't directed at her) just gave me a cold no. I guess I approached from behind and they were kind of busy. Was your set free or where they doing something?

xfman · Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 3:25 pm Post subject:

Once again guys...

You don't ask , you demand...

Hey guys give me your opinion on something (don't let them answer) and give out the opener.

But many times there are girls that don't want to talk with guys , they aren't in the mood...

Thats why we check for girls body language. But don't worry is not a big deal, there are lot of girls.

dutchseduction · Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 5:23 pm Post subject:

thanks for ur answers Smile

xfman i like the demanding thing, i am going to test it as soon as i meet such a bitchact again:P.

bye.

Rythms · Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 6:25 pm Post subject:

Xfman is right. Don't give them the option of saying know. If you jump right into the opener and it is interesting enough, they will become receptive.

loungecat · Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 7:44 pm Post subject:

You can use it when you open any set, even if they are not stone cold bitches...LOL. I had to make my self stop asking them if I could ask a question or saying excuse me or sorry to interrupt. Just make the statement. I also think a good shut down to the cold "NO...bye" statement would have been to tell them "you are not near as tough or cute as you think you are, it was nice meeting you." Say it with a confident smirk. Thats what I would have said just becuase you get the confident last word. I heard a audio interview with one of David D's PUAs and he uses what is called sinking with resistance. When he opens a set and gets that cock block from one of the girls he responds with "Thats awesome I am the cock block for all my friends to". You may have to calibrate it for different sets but still the same affect.

CaptinAmerica · Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 8:06 pm Post subject:

Rico27 · Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 4:06 am Post subject: Reply

I would do a good humored neg on both of them and walk of smiling.... I would say:

"Looks like you got up on the wrong side of the bed this morning."

then I'd look at the other one smile and say,

"And I bet you were you with her?" pause.... "Hey, that's pretty cool"

and walk off with a big smile.

A little neg and good humor.

ming · Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 4:19 am Post subject:

Totally agree with above info -

but remeber -

some chicks are just fucking biatchs!! and you have done nothign wrong...

some girls may have been hassled all night and just want time by themselves - and are sick of people trying to talk to them (they shoulda just stayed home if this is the case!!)

or your approach may be blatantly obvious you were using a line by neglecting what others have already touched on. If your using other peoples routines - It must appear as a natural approach.......

hence - canned shit sucks testicles

Redhotsunkiss · Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 5:45 am Post subject:

Also, ask yourself why you give a fuck. Just some dumb bitch that doesnt deserve to get hit on in any case.

I think you have to develop that attitude where your above that. "Don't put the pussy on a pedestal." Its ok, there are millions of other women out there.

I like putting a neg in there and just laugh it off with a superior smirk.

Or just smirk in her face and walk away.

It doesn't matter what you do, it's important to have that attitude. Ok who cares about you anyways. Mystery says your the prize not her.

superfly08 · Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 10:12 pm Post subject: um

She most likely found you unattractive and thats that sorry man.

Juice24 · Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 11:14 pm Post subject:

Yeah, I agree with the above statements alot of my homeboyz including myself wont approach groups because of the one potential cockblocker which is always the fat one.

chio

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