hooked up with this girl a couple days ago, now its very obvious to me that shes into me, however she is known to be a girl who plays games. She often will text me then not respond, or do other little things to keep herself believing she hold the upper hand, how do i fix this and close a 2nd meet?

You can do several things.

First of all, don't be bothered by the games. Thats the best thing you can do, people who play games are waiting for a response from the person they are playing games with.

Second of all, tell her on the second date (subtly) that you dislike people who play childish games. Or something along those lines.

You can do both of these, however, the first option is more than enough to get you through this situation.

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"DONT LET HER STEAL YOUR FRAME"

There is nothing more attractive than that

If you pay attention to her games and be bugged about it, you lose points

Just don't

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I think an active way to DHV and throw a neg at the same time would be telling her you dont or wont jump through her hoops or play her games. Then you can run a cube on her or styles personal value routine. I am willing to bet that will shock the piss out of her.

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how should i get a 2nd meet, i feel like if i suggest it, it will be like me losing to her???

Just say: I'm hanging out with friends at X place at X time. You should show up.

It's just something you happen to be doing and so does not seem like you asking her out.

I think you are reading too much into the girl. The idea is not to hold a single girl up so high. She is controling the frame, like Romeo says. The relationship is always to be in your hands. Every PUG (Pick Up Guru) says that you should always control the frame. In the end, go sarge a new girl. Don't respond to her messages when she messages you. Respond a day later or something. Show her interest, but at the same time, show that you are busy with the rest of your life as well. She will want a piece of your life if you show her you don't have time for her. You can call her, tell her where to be and when, if she isn't available, suggest a new time, but don't let plans slide into her hands. Remember, this is YOUR relationship.

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what does it mean to control the frame?

The frame is your environment. And who should be the king of the area? You. To control the frame means that you, at all times, control the attention and happenings of the environment. Have you ever gone to a bar or club or any kind of hang-out area and seen that guy that has all the attention on him from a group? He is the one controlling that frame. Now, in regards to a relationship, you need to be the one that sets the standards about how the relationship is run. You cannot succumb to her wants or needs, because controlling the frame is not about pleasing her, it is about getting her to please you. You do this be being non-chalant and not caring about anything. Act like she is there to please you, not the other way around. For example:

At a bar, if a girl ever wants a drink from you, tell her she has to earn it. Or if a girl tries to strike up a conversation with you, look confused why she is talking to you, almost condecending. Make the girl do the work. The purpose of pick-ups is not to do the work of getting a relationship, it is to force her to do the work. The lines you use simply shove her in certain directions and get her to come to you.

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thanks, that made it clear

Exactly,
very well said Apollo,
In simpler words
"You're who you're, and not let anybody (guy or girl) affect the person you choose to be"

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USE C & F and go MIND FUCK HER .

FUCKED UP HER BRAIN.


AND FUCK HER BRAINS OUT LATER ON TO PUNISH HER PLAY GAMES. HAHA THAT IS WHAT I WOULD DO.





MAGIC J.

lmao sounds like a plan!!!!! lol

haha i have this one girl thats playing text games with me,
she will text me then ill reply then she wont...
so when she texts me again...

HB:ok heres my new number ###-####
PUA: why would i want your number? your way too shy =D

Ecko

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