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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 8:08 am 
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Hey guys, another field report for you. It's more for my own benefit just to see it all written down than anything else. But if it helps someone else, then that's awesome.

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So I took this girl out for a second time, the one from my minigolf field report. As I stated before shes a gorgeous italian girl, could be a 10 if she had more in the chest region. But that's not a huge deal (no pun intended haha.) Anywho, I dropped by her house and took her over to the skating rink. We had mostly fluff talk in the car, it seemed a little more distant that the first time we went out. I think this is partially due to the phone problems we had, and two weeks without seeing eachother. Either way the ride over was still pretty comfortable with lively talk and blah blah. Anyways, we grab some fast food real quick and head over to the rink after we eat.

I help her get the right skates and everything and we have a pretty good time on the ice. I held her hand for awhile, was C/F, and kept the conversation lively and elicited some more values. I got her thinking about positive things with a few questions. For example:

Me: The ice rink is one of my places, you know what I mean? It's one of those places you can go and you don't really think about your problems, you just have fun. It's also one of those places that helps me think and focus my thoughts. How about you, where are some of your places like this?

Her: blah blah blah. It made her smile and I'm sure it got her thinking in a positive direction. (not that she wasn't before. I'm not a very negative person :wink: .)

In any case, I wanted to go for the kiss on the ice, but I felt it would have been awkward or rejected because of all the people around. It was pretty crowded that day. I know, I pussed out. I dropped the ball.

After we finished, we were taking off our skates. She told me her fingers were too cold to undo the knots and wanted me to help. I told her I don't come for free, and she would have to give me a backrub if I did this for her. She said she would and told me it would be extra long if I helped her loosen the laces too. Ha! I told her I would hold her to it, and cash in the favor another time. I was hoping this would help solidify another meeting within the next few days.

We're walking back to the parking lot and she's complaining that her pants are too loose and are coming down a little. I told her "I only asked for a backrub, I barely know you and you're already taking your clothes off in front of me?" She replied with a little laugh and said she wouldn't be taking her clothes off. :x I thought, Damnit! But guys, we all know you can't take a woman's word at face value!

Anyways, I take her back home, more interesting convo in the car on the way home...mostly just fluff talk. So I walk her up to the door, she gives me a big hug and says it was tons of fun. I wanted to kiss her, but AGAIN I fucking PUSSED OUT, and didn't. It didn't feel right, I didn't go for it. I should have just used the 3 second rule...I wasn't sure what to do though, because as soon as we got to the door she immediately went for the hug. There wasn't any time to just go for it. In anycase, when she hugged me I told her to kiss me on the cheek. She seemed taken aback at first (I seriously doubt anyone has asked her to do this before), but she did it and giggled afterward. She seems like a naive girl overall, really kind of shy. I'll break her out of that though, and hopefully next time have something much more interesting to report! Anyways, gotta go finish up a project, so I'll see you guys later.

As always, I encourage criticism(constructive) and critiques. So feel free!

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~Muse

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 4:10 pm 
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sounds like you are a good friend...

I think this is past the point of no return. Im rooting for you man but it sounds like to me she sees your lack of confidence. You waited too long. You only live once. If you can salvage a kiss/hookup out of it, it will be a diffucult task IMO.

If nothing else just learn from this. Next time recgonize what stages your at, read her IOIs better and make your move accordingly. Good luck

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:00 pm 
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Thanks for the advice man. I don't know what it is, something about the whole "dating" thing seems to throw my game for some reason. Yeah, this girl had me nervous which is really strange. But in anycase it really points out where the holes are in my game and what I need to do to fix it.

The only thing I don't understand is, put me into a larger social scene, such as a party, and my game is rock solid. I can amog the guys and get the girl. My one-on-one game seemed to melt somewhat on my two outings with this chick and I can't put my finger on the reason why.

Some lessons I learned though (hopefully someone else will find them helpful too):

1. The three second rule is much more important than I used to think. MUCH more important. It would have kept me from blowing my opportunities to kiss her.

2. Kino is extremely important. I know this and I use it to great success normally, but while I was out with this girl, I couldn't bring myself to go beyond the more harmless areas like the arms, and shoulders, etc.

3. Get an SOI in when it feels appropriate, but don't wait too long! I waited until our second time out to give her the SOI(forgot to mention it).

4. Stop hesitating! No more excuses! I'm stressing the 3 second rule again here.

My confidence and game have never been running at higher levels than they are now. I just need to harness it and take care of my mental block with this chick. If I can take care of this problem, then I'm willing to bet that I can turn this around. I'll keep you guys posted.

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Im in the same boat with you here man. The only way I can see a way out of this for the both of us is to keep the emotions in check.

I am as good as it gets in a social enviornment. on a consistent basis I can take a girl home almost every time I go out, however if I catch feelings for a girl on a one on one basis I sometimes lose my cool. Im getting a lot more consistent but up until a few weeks ago if I started really liking a girl I would lose it.

This happens to a lot of guys simply because we are socially taught the wrong way to treat a girl.

Im not saying be a dick, but im also not saying to be a complete pussy mama boy suck up. You need to imagine yourself as a sort of James Bond or any other cool under pressure bad ass. These guys convey a look like they are taking their time while the world is passing them by at a million miles per hour. Slow your breathing rate, dont make so many movements, convey to her that you're a guy who can take control over ANY situation, and prove yourself.

Again its hard to do around a girl who you are trying so bad to make a good impression, however sometimes its good to try to not look like your making a good impression and just be laid back and when you feel the time comes take some initiative.

Also read MM Venusian Arts to know when that time has arisen and study the art of Kino Escalation. Its key and it will make kissing her so natural you will forget all the times you fucked it up :lol: GURANTEED

Hope that helped you out a little

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 7:37 am 
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Yeah man thanks alot for the advice. I want to get Mystery's Venusian Arts, and Juggler's book, but I'm too cheap at the moment. :roll: I'll get them soon though.

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You could try this next time she hugs you and walks off, turn around and walk away than stop and say OH by the way i forgot something, go to where she is and pashionetly take your gawd damn well earned daily kiss! and than be the first the back off if she gets into it, and say, no more ice cream for you! if your nice you mite get some next time! and see what happens ;)
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