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Ok guys, i made a lil section of what NOT to do based on a part of a movie, now here's a lil bit of a guide for what TO do.

Note, this guide is more so for Day Game (my personal favourite.. mainly cos i havnt mastered night game yet!)

SO lets get to it, and btw my sources are countless ebooks i've read, videos i've watched, and in-field experiences. This is the stuff i had to learn and i'm putting it all out on the line now.

In the day girls are usually in smaller groups and also mostly by themselves (prime targets).


Part #1 (Seated Sets)

So you spot the HB, perhaps she seated somewhere on a street bench, or outside a venue.

1) Walk up with an upright confident posture, not DIRECTLY up to her (this is too confrontational). Instead walk casually, confidently in her general direction, and approach her from an angle - typically a 45 degree angle.

2) You Open - Before we get onto some lines, we need to talk about delivery (this is much more important, since as soon as u walk up, you havnt got her full attention she is not thinking what is this guy saying, she's thinking should i listen to him or not - in doing so she observes your body language and other subcommunications) Dont believe me? just think when ppl walk down the street and sometimes salesman wanna sell you a book - You're in your own little World, and when these guys suddenly come up to you, you dont notice the "Hi, would you be interested in buying this book for $25?", you instead look at their body language, their clothes, etc. and you realise they have that needy body language and your immediate response is REJECTION, KEEP WALKING!

So, when you open you need to maintain your confident body posture, and you need to speak with a firm confident voice, using the lower half of your voice box - not using your 'head voice' which sounds high and whiny. You need to sound like a man :)

Also you need to be facing slightly away from the target, because she isnt ready to fully accept you.. yet!

MAINTAIN EYE CONTACT! at all costs!!!

SMILE! It is just as important to keep a light-hearted/fun SPAM!

Speak slowly, you are confident! You can talk slowly and clearly knowing that ppl will still listen to you!

And finally: Please try to be looking presentable, its the first thing ppl notice about you, and so you must have at least tried to look decent (clothes, hair, shoes!<<, and you CAN peacock even during the day - i for example may wear: pink shirts, panama hats, bracelets, belts with big buckles, niice shoes, and i spose your hair can be a form of peacock if you have an epic hairstyle :)

3) So, Now what to say?
You can open in many ways: Direct, Indirect, Situational, Jokes, etc.
Personally, if its a random walk up to a girl in the street or something i prefer Direct. If its a more low key situation, i.e. in a restaurant, cafe or something this (in my opinion) calls for a less forward opener especially when everyone's quiet, cos then they'll hear your direct opener, and it may be too much to handle for a girl sitting there by herself. Not to mention that if you get rejected, you will inevitably feel great shame. But hey, Everything works, you just need to make it WORK for YOU!

So in a lower key situation, i'd go Situational funny< This could be like, "Did you notice that _____ on the _____ of the (whereever you are)?....." the 'dot dot dot' here is a space for you to make a funny observation.
I'll Give you an example:
I was in hungry jack's one time, sitting in an upstairs part, near the stair case, finishing my meal. A girl comes up the stairs and sits at a table near me. In this particular hungry jacks, they had pictures on the wall of Extreme Sports - Skiing, snowboarding, sky diving, jet skiing, motocross racing, etc.
SO i walked up to her as i threw my rubbish away on my way to the stairs and said: "You know why they have these pictures on the wall here?" she goes "no why?" and i say "To show you what you could be doing, instead of sitting here eating hungry jacks" :P It wasnt the Best opener, but it was a total spontaneous thought that crossed my mind. SHe laughed and i was in. Thats an example of a situational Funny opener!

Now, For direct openers, you really need to maintain that Confident Posture and MAINTAIN EYE CONTACT! I cannot stress that enough. I dont care if there's a live porn show going on to your left, you MUST keep the eye contact!!!
We went over delivery before so i wont go back into it now.
SO there are variations and various degrees of directness.
My personal favourite i ALWAYS use for direct is one i learnt and added to from "Seduce in Seconds", whereby you say something like "Hey, i thought you looked really cute and i just wanted to say hi" But i thought by adding the time constraint in the opener it would be much better and i came up with something like this: "Hey, don't mean to interrupt or anything, i actually gotta head off now cos my bus is about to come, but i just wanted to say i thought you looked really cute and i just wanted to say hi."
This is good because:
1) you're giving the time constraint right off the bat, which lowers her defense shields instantly and greatly - also a DHV. We'll get to this later in the guide.
2) ppl may not like the "dont mean to interrupt" and thats fine, take it out, but i think it good because it means that you understand and recognise that this is not a normal occurrence in social settings for randoms to walk up and say hi, this would also lower her shields. It shows that you know this must be random and a lil wierd, and that you understand that you may have indeed been interrupting something and so you say this and then she's ok with the interrupt.
3) The Directness of the opener will also DHV you, and depict you as a confident alpha male who knows what he wants, and goes after it unapologetically.

Other variations can include like: “Hey, I thought you looked really interesting and I just wanted to come and see what you’re all about”
To me, the previous opener is my favoured direct opener and it works extremely well, you just need to find your balls to use it :)

If it’s a 2 set you can still open direct, but now you have a choice, direct or indirect. But if you open direct you’d go something like this:
Open the obstacle, and say like "Hey, i gotta head off now cos my bus is about to come, but i just wanted to say that i thought your friend here was really cute and i just wanted to say hi"
Them: "blahblahblah"
You: "You're not too bad either, but i've just got a thing for blondes/redheads/brunettes/etc"

It works fairly well also. Your other option was indirect which I shall cover now.

I'd use Indirect approaches during the day for either 3+ sets. You can use it on 2 sets as well, but i like to go direct on the 2 set as well.
For indirect openers, you would ask for opinions on something, perhaps a gift for a friend, which cologne smells better, Style’s Jealous Girlfriend Opener – I think its about a hypothetical guy who has pictures of his ex in his drawer and his current girlfriend gets upset about it. And you ask whether or not its justified that she gets upset and what they would do..
Based on their responses and receptiveness to your question, you take it from there to continue the convo by either teasing the target for her response “You sound like a dangerous one” etc.
Fire out a few of those negs, or a Disqualifier – If you liked the target’s response, you could be all like “Naww that’s the perfect answer anyone could give, too bad you’re not my type” This sort of thing gets her chasing, mind you it may be a bit premature to say this straight after the opener, but you get the idea.

4) Mid Game – What to Do?
I can’t tell you exactly what to say at every step because from here on you’re by yourselves because it depends on what is being said and what topics of conversation you’re discussing.
BUT
Here are some general things to do in Mid Game.

These include:

- Disqualifiers (as mentioned above)

- Negs (As mentioned above) – Note these work best in group situations. When it’s one-on-one with a girl, I wouldn’t focus on negging at all.

- Push/Pull – I’d focus on this one-on-one with a girl. This is simply where you may compliment her on something, and then immediately (or shortly after) tease her. Like maybe.. “I like your nose ring, but I think all the punk emo freaks have those, so we totally can’t hang together” This is actually a compliment, an insult, and then a disqualifier all in one. This is perfect to leave her wondering why the hell you don’t suck up to her.

- DON’T BE AFRAID TO TEASE HER! This is the backbone to attraction! You have to tell her (not verbally): “Fuck you, yes you’re beautiful, but I am much more important than you, my time is more valuable, you’re lucky to be here with me. I’m not intimidated by your looks like AFC’s, I can tease you about it, and if you can’t handle it, get the fuck outta my sight.” << That is something like the mindset you need to have.
BUT that’s inner game which I may cover another time..

- KINO!! For god’s sake, TOUCH HER. Research, Studies, and other such Proofs have shown that if you touch someone, you connect on a deeper level with them, and thus touching is necessary in order to get her comfortable with ur touch and to feel a deeper connection with you – This all adds to her overall comfort with you.
In my AFC days, I had this one particular girlfriend for a while which I never kissed. All that ever happened was maybe a hug or something, simply because I was too frightened to touch her, and thus we connected on an emotional level but never on a physical level.. EPIC FAIL!

- C+F – Cocky and Funny can make you seem sexy, confident and flip her attraction switches. Just make sure you keep it light hearted, you can get away with saying ANYTHING with the right attitude and smile :)
C+F would include like “I wouldn’t wanna bring myself down to your level” or like “I’m so outta your league, we shouldn’t even be talking together”, etc. Those may be abit too cocky, but you get the picture.

- DHV – Demonstrate Higher Value through:
- Time constraints (you’re a busy man, you have places to be, people to see!),
- Best friends test (for a 2set or more, where you ask how well they know each other, and then ask them if they use the same shampoo – They will inevitably look at each other before answering, and then you stop them before they answer and say that they passed. You then say “You guys ARE close, because if you weren’t, you wouldn’t have looked at each other before answering. Look this one up on the net for more detail!)
- 5 Lies Game – Style’s game, look it up its fun and gets great responses
- Cube – Its on the forum, it’s almost like a cold reading technique
- Cold Reads – make assumptions based on body language, behaviour, etc. Like say: “hmm, you seem to be an independent woman, who knows what she wants out of life and goes for it!” – Did you ever read horoscopes EVER? Well you cold reads need to be as open and general and vague as horoscopes xD
- Palm Reading
- Explain their body language and tell them the messages they send out if they sit like that!
ESP game where you guess her number between 1-4, and 1-10, look it up on the forum.

- Role-Reversal – This can be hilarious and fun! This is simply where you take on a role that women would normally take. For example:
PUA: “blah blah I have one of those at home”
HB: “I’d love to see it!”
PUA: “Wow, slow down, I think you’re getting too far ahead in our relationship, I mean, I just met you!”

Its not the best example, but you can see that its simply controlling the pace of the interaction, and using lines that women would be using :) .

5) CLOSING.. What we’re all here to do I spose – Specifically, this will be about NUMBER CLOSING!

Now, you’ve opened the girl, you’ve had a fun interaction, you can tell she’s probs interested you through IoI’s like: Opened body language (open your body language too, to encourage her to open up also!), maintained Eye contact, questions, she asks your name if you didn’t give it in the first place, she touches you, she smiles and laughs even at not-so-funny jokes, She turns her body to face you slightly, etc.

SO, to Close:

Say something like (with a smile of course): “You know I don’t usually walk up to random girls on the street but in you case I made an exception. So give me your number and I’ll give you a call the next time I ________”
The Blank is there to be filled by something you were talking about in the convo. EG: if you were talking about bird catching, you say “blahblahblah, I’ll give you a call the next time I catch a bird!”
The point of this is to play down the number, and also make it seem like you wont be calling any time soon, etc.
You can also add: “Blahblahblah, so give me your number and I promise I’ll only call you 9 times a day!”
Funny, smart, calling out what she’s already thinking.


Alternatively, you can say: “You seem like an interesting person, what’s the best way to keep in touch with you?” The compliment is supposed to break down any last defences, and charm her into giving her your number.

So you have the number now, say your goodbyes, don’t hang around too much longer.. at all!
Ideally, touch her as you say goodbye, kiss on cheek, hug, etc all these are good kino to be practising!

Ok I’ve been sitting here for about an hour devising this guide (it better get stickied somewhere =P), I’m buggered now, so that’s all I can think of.
That is the basic structure of (my) day game.
Please for those who actually DO read through the entire thing, tell me what you think about the guide, add bits to it, and Happy Sarging!

- Fr33stylez
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Sources:
Mystery Method - Mystery
Attraction Formula - Paul Janka
The Game - Neil Strauss
Annihilation Method - Neil Strauss
TheSocialEngineer - On Youtube
Get The Girl - MeHow
Direct Street Game - Yosha
Meeting, Dating, Seducing Beautiful Women - Joseph Matthews
Getting Laid In NYC - Paul Janka
AFC Adam Lyons - Videos
The Art of Approaching - Thundercat
The Day Game Report - Sinn
How To Get The Women You Desire Into Bed - Ross Jeffries
Double Your Dating - David DeAngelo
Three Keys To Seducing Any Woman - Mike Pilinski
S.W.A.T Guide - Mack Tactics
The Art of Attraction - Carlos Xuma
The Juggler Method - Juggler


As you can see, i've gone to alot of trouble and learning to obtain tips, hints, do's and don'ts for game in general and particularly Day Game, so i know what i'm on about :P


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Wow, nice article. Covered a lot of methods in a very concise and neat manner. Have you tried out any of this stuff?

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Wow, nice article. Covered a lot of methods in a very concise and neat manner. Have you tried out any of this stuff?
Hey man,
Thanks for reading it (i'm assuming you did :P)
And yes i've sat down and learnt/understood all these theories, and ts all been field tested by me too.
I know that this guide will work :P
Here is one of my success stories in which i used a direct opener and successfully got a girl's number :P
previous-vt45901.html?postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

Btw, i might end up doing an 'inner game' part, a 'night game' part, and a 'moving sets' part and combine all 4 into an ebook for all to enjoy and learn from.. but that will probably be in about 3 weeks, i'm pretty tied up right now.. i'm surprised i was able to churn the above post out this morning :P

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Btw, i might end up doing an 'inner game' part, a 'night game' part, and a 'moving sets' part and combine all 4 into an ebook for all to enjoy and learn from..

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Good post man. Do write abt innergame.

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hey buddy nice post. i love day game as well. i just have a question to ask since i dont find many people here who is specializing in day game. so the situation is like this: a girl sitting by herself, should (1) i sit beside her right off the bat or (2) should i stand and talk to her first? ive tried (1) but its stopping me from eyecontact, i have tried (2) but im a bit worry that its a bit intimidating. btw im using direct mostly.

thanks in advance ;)

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First of all, thank you very much guys for all the positive responses, i've actually just about finished my own lil 20ish page document on everything you'll ever need to know about day game.. EVER. I might release it tonight cos i'm excited to get such a guide into your hands ASAP!

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hey buddy nice post. i love day game as well. i just have a question to ask since i dont find many people here who is specializing in day game. so the situation is like this: a girl sitting by herself, should (1) i sit beside her right off the bat or (2) should i stand and talk to her first? ive tried (1) but its stopping me from eyecontact, i have tried (2) but im a bit worry that its a bit intimidating. btw im using direct mostly.

thanks in advance ;)

zhu
Hey buddy,
this issue is something i address in my book (haha i feel so cool saying i have a book LOL)
and this is what i say:

With seated sets, you really need to watch the amount of time it takes you to sit down beside/with them. If you do it right away, you run the risk of her thinking “Wtf is this guy doing? Why is he sitting with me?”, and if you wait too long, you run the risk of her thinking “Wtf? He’s towering over me, is he trying to intimidate me? *bitch shield goes up!*”
So, to do it correctly, you need to be passing by and while you deliver your opener, you need to have you body facing slightly away from her whilst standing initially. AS YOU DELIVER your FALSE TIME CONSTRAINT, THAT is when you take a seat, because she’s thinking “Ok, he’s sitting down, but he’s not going to stay long.. he told me so..”

Does that make sense man?
Hope it does, get pumped for my lil book =D

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Heyy guys,
My book on day game called: "Fr33stylez's guide to Day Game" is now released. It is free, but tell me what y'all think.
I tell you where to get it on this page: here-vp252553.html#252553

Thanks guys, and enjoy the book, it took a shit load out of me to make!

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Very nice, I liked your article on dg. Will try the new things i didn't think of before. Keep up the good advice :)


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Very nice, I liked your article on dg. Will try the new things i didn't think of before. Keep up the good advice :)
Thanks very much mate, hope it works just as well for you as it did for me! :)

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very good read! i'm a newbie if you didn't notice the post count, and i think this was a great place to start. i read in other threads about direct vs. indirect approaches and couldn't really see myself doing the indirect approaches, but at the same time was wary about the effectiveness of the direct approach. i like your direct opener with the time constraint a lot, you inspired me to want to get out there and try it. hopefully i'll be able to come back and report some successes :D


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very good read! i'm a newbie if you didn't notice the post count, and i think this was a great place to start. i read in other threads about direct vs. indirect approaches and couldn't really see myself doing the indirect approaches, but at the same time was wary about the effectiveness of the direct approach. i like your direct opener with the time constraint a lot, you inspired me to want to get out there and try it. hopefully i'll be able to come back and report some successes :D
haha thats great man! I'm happy i was able to kickstart your pickup! I'm sure that with this guide, experience, practise, you can get your game to a level you never thought was possible. Keep it up mate!

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I did enjoy the post

but to me it was missing some key factors

The examples you gave, could of bee clearer, and more in detail, just my 2cent's though

if you would of spent 1more hour on it, it would of been spot on, but overall very nice touch :)

(personally never day gamed, but i wanna get into it, is it worth going solo day game? since my AFC friend is a FUCKING AFC and too pussy to apporach?)


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Dude I loved that guide, very helpful, two queries :

What separates this solely from normal night game, cause that's most of the stuff I've been using for night stuff

Please do the Inner-Game section, I'd love to read more on mindset, body language, pitch, tonality, style, etc !!

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To Manic:
Yep, definately, day game is great for solo or wings, it doesnt matter too much about social proof.

To The_Prophet:
I'm not too knoledgeable on night game, but i'd imagine that there's more emphasis on DHV and social proof

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