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 Post subject: C'mon guys.....C'mon.
PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 5:15 am 
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It seems like the natural section is now a haven for discussing "seduction techniques" and the such.

...why?


Have all of us naturals moved on and left this place to be ravaged by "Mystery Methods" and "Triangular Gazing"? I am a long time member, few posts, but I have been around. I am a natural, I did not come to this site for help, but rather to partake in a discussion that fascinates me. I like the pua idea, it helps shy kids learn how to be sociable, which is really all it is in the end, forget all the trademarked catchphrases, they don't really matter in the end.

They are an important step in the early stages to help some shy people come out of their shell and talk to people, knowing they have these routines to fall back on. But eventually the routines don't matter, as the subject progresses towards the state of "natural".

When you are a natural you don't use ANY routine, technique, or "DHV". Which leads me back around to my original thought...why are these things being discussed in the natural forum?

If someone outside the pua community wouldn't understand your code-speak, it does not belong here. Kino? Man, you're just touching her, shit.


...c'mon.


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You know this is a PUA forum so its obvious people use terms as DHV or Kino here in the natural part of the forum.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 7:46 am 
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I think that the terms like kino and dhv and whatnot are just an easy way to tell what you are doing.

I like to think of myself as a hybrid - 50% natural and 50% PUA. Terms are just terms. I use them to shorten my posts because 99% of everybody here knows what kino is or what a DHV is.

End of the day naturals use them too but just dont name them.

As for your main point I agree that seduction techniques need to be posted in their correct place.

thats my 2 cents.

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the terms are just something we use to communicate ideas... there's nothing wrong with that.... and although I think mm is wayyy too much work and too much thinking,
it's still a very insightful look into human interactions. If I was trying to game a celebrity I would have to use MM... but just a hot girl at school too direct is good enough.

To pull MM off though, you do need balls and to be congruent. To use MM or any methods really you need to have your natural abilities and inner game solid.


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And also MM takes a good time to learn. I mean to remmber all these things when you are going out! :)


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You made me laugh so hard with the comment about kino hahahah. Yea thats so true but some people just like to use those terms...

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I don't think most people even understand what natural game is, even when it's happening right in front of them. The PUA's act like they can break natural game down to a step by step process and sell it to you, but they're always missing huge gaps. You can't mechanically recreate a natural.

Natural game is a very individual thing. One man's natural game probably wouldn't work for someone else. At it's essence it involves having a sexually confident energy and an innate ability to read a woman and create chemistry. Even that doesn't really explain it.


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Very good post, disagree about the use of terminology since it does apply to naturals, i use it kind of as translation for puas to make points...

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I use my own routines as a natural!!!isn't a routine something you always use that has consistently work with a girl?

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i agree with this guy talking about pua and naturals he is 100% correct:


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Very good post, disagree about the use of terminology since it does apply to naturals, i use it kind of as translation for puas to make points...
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I use my own routines as a natural!!!isn't a routine something you always use that has consistently work with a girl?
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i agree with this guy talking about pua and naturals he is 100% correct:


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Maybe the terminology just seems silly to me because I was consistently "f-closing" (see: Nailin' vag) before I ever heard of Pickup.

The terminology is fine I guess for simplicity, but I am still irked that so many people post things in the wrong forums... and they actually get discussed.


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