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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 5:11 pm 
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well im starting to think that shopping centres are a bad place to cold approach. I opened a woman walking her dog at the park on the way there and the interaction went quite well for my standards. I went to the shopping center already on an unstifled state, and started opening everyone that came into view.
Then I got a red bull and I just started approaching anything in sight, opening directly immediately with stuff like ''when are you going to stop being so boring and give me a kiss''......''how would you like to hang out with me and be cool for once in your life''......''I have just met you but I already want to put a baby in you''......''hey, not so fast....why don't we talk about more important things...like you!'' Sometimes after I drunk the red bull I found myself saying to myself...''wow slow down!!'' but I couldn't resist anything that came my way.
Almost all approaches I got the same 'i already have a boyfriend' shit-test responses, my responses sometimes got a giggle from them but not much else. I just went there for the purpose of self amusement, saying whatever I wanted to say, whatever turned me on without worrying about the womans reaction and to approach as many women as possible. I must have approached about 50 women.
While I was in one shop opening another woman, I got approached by four security guys and they told me that they had been receving complaints for the last few hours about someone harassing them and was told I had to leave the premesis and my day of cold approaching was brought to an end.
So im thinking that shopping centers really Is not the right place to cold approach.
Ok so what is the next step you recommend, so I can improve?
I think I would do much better if I had a coach and if I had a more sound strategy in the battlefield. Sometimes when you are in the battlefield, it feels similar to a boxing fight in the sense that, you come up with a strategy with your boxing coach to box, move, fight at your pace and distance against your stronger and bigger punching opponent. But then when the bell rings, the gameplan goes out of the window and you find yourself slugging away, standing toe to toe with your opponent, completely forgetting everything that you worked on and not using your head. That's how it feels sometimes.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 5:28 pm 
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''I have just met you but I already want to put a baby in you''.
Lines like this ^ And you're surprised you got banned, you say?

You can game outside malls I guess since it is a public street But I get the feeling you're on those day game dudes who watches too much RSD, drinks too many Red Bulls, addicted to women's reactions, without handling the basic fundamentals of being attractive...

Why not think about what you say, make it calibrated to the situation and perhaps reducing the creep factor a little? That would be a good start...

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 5:29 pm 
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Have you thought about chilling it down a bit? Day game needs to be a little less creepy/rape-y.

You are coming across like when a website greets people with a pop-up window. It just feels like you should say hi first!

I gotta give you points for the boldness though.

Sound like you'd rather be someone's shot of whiskey than everyone's cup of tea.

How many Red Bulls did you have? Like 6?

Here is my grocery store gem; "Ziploc's idea of how big a sandwich should be is very different than mine."

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 5:40 pm 
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I just went in there with the state of approach everything. don't make any excuses, don't hesitate to approach any women just because of being scared of a little bit of rejection.
I went to the same shopping center previously on Friday, I approached very little women and I came away feeling like I was a coward and hesitating and making up excuses. So this time I thought.....go straight in there, approach this one, that one, no excuses, open with anything, joy, happiness, enthusiasm, energy.
Its the first time I drunk a full can of red bull, I had one can, but I saw this guy on a youtube video use it, and it felt like super Mario when he gets the star power :-D
Whatever made me laugh I approached them with.....''oh my god - Delicious!!!!'' :-D ......''I got game y'all!!'' (with dramatic jazz hands). One I even stepped up to one girl and sung to her the opening lines of ''strangers in the night'' by Frank Sinatra. It was fun!
I wanted to go really bold but I didn't have the guts to that level but.... I wanted to use the Jack Nicholson line that he used from ''The Witches of Eastwick'' movie, in a Jack Nicholson voice ''I always like a little pussy after lunch!''
Another line I wanted to use but didn't think of it....I wanted to approach another woman ask her if I could touch her boobs because I have a boob phobia because it might make me get over my boob phobia. :-D


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 5:49 pm 
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I just went in there with the state of approach everything. don't make any excuses, don't hesitate to approach any women just because of being scared of a little bit of rejection.
It's a good mentality to have, but this approach makes it look like you are forcing rejections and are more interested in getting a high off of approaching.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 5:58 pm 
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when I just opened them normally, using less energy and effort....''hi, how are you? where are you from? what are you doing here? cool''.....I got more of the reaction of.....target is moving further and further away. strike fast or lose the target! they usually walked away fast.


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when I just opened them normally, using less energy and effort....''hi, how are you? where are you from? what are you doing here? cool''.....I got more of the reaction of.....target is moving further and further away. strike fast or lose the target! they usually walked away fast.
So you think approaches that are getting mall security to show up because of complaints is somehow better? Instead of changing your entire approach, you need to figure out where your approach is going wrong.

Think about the questions that you are asking and ask yourself would you be interested in holding a conversation with someone if the asked you the same thing, especially if you had things to do. Don't throw out the whole puzzle because the first two pieces you pick up don't match.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 6:26 pm 
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approach, pick up is meant to be fun right? good vibrations, energy, enthusiasm. That's why I got into it.
Not about a chore, or making it seem strategic, just to get pussy.


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It isn't meant to be like a full time job for sure. But if I had a wish that I could be lazy and just teleport girls onto dates with me as opposed to approaching them, I would opt for the former, but that's just me.

I guess my question to you. What have results been like for you since starting, honestly?

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 6:40 pm 
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It isn't meant to be like a full time job for sure. But if I had a wish that I could be lazy and just teleport girls onto dates with me as opposed to approaching them, I would opt for the former, but that's just me.

I guess my question to you. What have results been like for you since starting, honestly?

I have been honest from the start, I haven't been layed once since going out and doing this cold approach thing. I haven't even gone on an instant date. My biggest suscces was that I pulled in the same night with some drunk girl on her way home, got her back to her place and then got last minute rejection and got thrown out of her place because her sister was almost home. Yesterday I got like one number.
But I felt in a much better state yesterday despite a ton of rejections that I got, than compared to like when I went there about three months ago when I was getting rejected, I was not in state, relying on womens reactions and staring down from the top of three balcony's on the top floor and wondering if it would hurt that much if I jumped down from it.
As soon as I approach I get them walking fast to get away from me, or there like go away.
The thing that did bother me was that I approached some like 3 out of 10 girls yesterday just to keep momentum going, but I absolutely resented giving them the leverage and power to reject me, putting the ball in their court whether or not they will reject me or not, and making them look good. Its one of the things that i hate about pick up. I definitely want to change that frame absolutely.


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approach, pick up is meant to be fun right? good vibrations, energy, enthusiasm. That's why I got into it.
Not about a chore, or making it seem strategic, just to get pussy.
Actually, pick up is about picking up women. If your goal isn't to attract and seduce women, you're doing it wrong.

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alright....well don't kill my thread with your canned, matter of factness statements. I want to get better at it, to progress. so any suggestions. line up.


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So you only want positive reinforcement? Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 9:46 pm 
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alright....well don't kill my thread with your canned, matter of factness statements. I want to get better at it, to progress. so any suggestions. line up.
What would you rather me tell you? Don't worry about getting women, just have fun. Don't get attraction returned to you. Don't worry about developing your pick up skills because it's not important. If I told you any of those things, you'd later be writing posts on how many approaches you make but never get laid.

The thing about PU is that you can have fun while getting better at it. If you play a sport, you get better with practice and mastering the fundamentals. Just because you are actively trying to get better doesn't mean you can't have fun while you're doing it.

If you take my statement as canned and matter of fact...you need to look at what you wrote originally. Your current approach is limiting you from being successful with women to the point that you believe that your environment is the problem when it is actually you. My whole point of responding was to help you out, but if you don't care about being better then I understand where you're coming from and I hope you continue with your fun.

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