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Wow, what an amazing thread.

I've started focusing on the girl and not letting other people break my vibe and I've already seen positive results!

Before I could be talking to a girl and if a mate came past and started talking I'd jump to him straight away because I'd be concious of him trying to fuck it up.

I can see why a girl would be like (This guy has major self esteem issues)

From now I'm zoned on the girl, fuck the other people because they don't even exist.


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Really cool topic Stormy, Im addicted to your writing.

You know, I totally understand what you are going through but, and this is only my point of view, I think that writing could be therapeutic somehow for you.

I mean, you really must like it to do it the way it comes off so Im sure that Im not the only one waiting for your return.

Good luck on your journey!


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MOOOAAAAARRRRRRRR!!!!! :twisted:

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Amazing post really made me think


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A great post there Stormy, I hope you continue this. After reading this my game's improved I've got to admit. No more trying to remember canned bullshit in the middle of a sarge, trying not to mess up my lines. It's all coming natural now, I'm making it my own method. I'll check out that Tolle book too, it sounds like a good read. Hope everything works out with your therapist.


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Fuck everything I've read about routines.

You've inspired me Stormy. I'm going full-frontal natural game from here on out. It's so much easier to be genuine.

Every man on this earth needs to read this thread. Usually I never read stuff this long beginning-to-end, but your writing has so much style and personality that I could do it just for entertainment.

And I 200% agree with you on therapy... I used to think it was for people with "big problems," but it doesn't have to be. It's really helped me understand why I'm so dependent on building a social life, where my anxiety comes from, and so on.

Pure gold man. I hope things are OK and that we hear from you again soon.

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Respect Stormy, hope all is going well. Great posting and thanks for the tip on Tolle


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This is really much of what you need on this forum. Covers so much. Thank you Stormy and good luck in the future and hope therapy has been successful for you. You have helped a lot of people, you are a good man.

I have been trying to change myself properly and thinking of this approaching game for about 6 months and just couldn't figure it out. AA was just so bad for me, though i have always found it quite easy to speak to a shop assistant, teacher in class etc. It's just instating a new conversation with nothing in common but a party i have always found hard. But i believe this has completely changed my outlook. Thank you so much.

What is so good about this is that it's natural. There's no masking feelings or basically lying to get a girl in bed which is what a lot of the pickup game is about and i highly disagree with, and gives pickup a bad name in general if you ask me. And there is definitely too much emphasis on negging. It should come out naturally. If you try it and go too far you are only making the girl feel bad. There is absolutely no need to go into a conversation with a planned neg. If its natural then that's cool. But its what you are saying. It should be natural. Great post once again man, thanks a lot! :)


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Stormy, if you ever come back to write more, I definitely gotta thank you for posting.

Dude, I'm in the same boat as you, except worse. I'm a newbie with women in every sense of the word and to boot, I also share your emotional problems, I also was abused as a child, and still can't shake depression after 13 years.

When I came across this post today, I was wanting to quit. I've started forcing myself out of my comfort zone, I met up with a random hobby group on the internet. I barely said anything to them the whole time, I introduced myself to a few of them and then hovered around social awkwardly and depressed until I decided to dip out early and go lie in fetal position and give up on ever become a social master and confident with women. I mean, if I'm too paralyzed to even talk to introverted people from the internet, how in the world am I going to deal with your average test from a woman?

But man, you have laid out some gold here. My mind is completely blown. I knew I had to start getting field experience to deal with my fear of social situations and get better with women, but you explained the inner part of it so well.

So much I've learned. Reaffirmed that I don't use kino at all, I gotta force myself to do that even during day game (I wonder if the claw works with day game), which is all I do, I hate night game (another hurdle I'll have to clear).

Totally hit the nail with the video game example. That's exactly how I am. I hate video games with no clear objective, it frustrates me, and I see how I've been thinking how I need to "work up to hot girls or work up to 2 or more sets" which is silly.

Also how you mention custom methods and how would I seduce a woman if everything was perfect, and I had to use no "tricks"? Gold. I realized thinking about it, that my whole method to approaching women is a trick. I had no idea what I would do, even if everything was perfect and I had no use no 'game". It took me 30 minutes just to come up with what I would do (the same thing you stripped down 'the game" to, opener, buying temp (kino), qualify (get rid of regrets), close).

Man, great stuff, can't wait until you drop more gems for us.


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Really good post stormy. This what its about not any of this neg, indirect opener etc bullshit just man up go in and do it. This article is more valuable than any book or program by some guru.

If your new to the community just read this and get going don't bother filling your head with all the other crap that you read on here just stick to this which is:
Solid Inner Game
Be yourself
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be the life and soul of the party
Send out good vibes

Awesome post thanks stormy :)


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Read all your posts in one sitting. You have single handedly changed the way I think about game. I hope things work out for you and you get back to posting soon!


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Stormy this thread is awesome. It's just what I needed to hear before college. I plan on reading the power of now. Thanks so much for making pick up more normal.

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Read everything in (what seemed like) an hour. Inspiring.

All are waiting for you!

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Good Insights Stormy, Post some more!








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Hey Stromy, I must say: BRAVO!

This thread inspired me deeply.

I have always been a natural gamer, and this thread just helped me with taking my "game" to the next level, cheers mate!

And on the other side, I have a question (not specificelly for Stormy):
How does one deal with the contradiction of no-ego and being an alpha male?

I'll give you an example:
I've been with a friend once, we were at a bar, and I bought him a beer because he didnt have any money, but about a month later the opposite happened, I had no money but he didnt want to buy me a beer. So me, being kind of ego-less, I just forgot about it, but the thing is that in his mind I was kind of a sucker, I was lower-value than him because I DID buy him a beer and he didnt.

How do I deal with those situations?


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