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TheTypicalAFC
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 Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Fin and Madals,
Wondering if you could take the time to help me out with my situation.
I'll give a bit of background and my sticking points but mainly its the general concept.
I've been aware of the game a good year or so now, I have a lot of AA i've previously been an overweight nerd who stayed inside too much, but since about 18 months ago of hitting the gym and becoming quite predominate with my physical appearance I have a new found sense of confidence but this does not translate into my skills with women. I don't have many friends around the area that I can go out with so I find meeting women initially a challenge. I researched heavily into NLP reading everything I can, the cube I know inside and out repressing memorys, body language you name it.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that, how do I make that transition, from the old me into this new model (re-framing model) I want to become, not that I don't believe in this stuff it's just becoming "it". I'm going to university at the end of the summer and this part of my life I want to get sorted before I go there with a fresh start.
Thanks in advance! |
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PUAHitch
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| Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 4:20 am Post subject: |
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Hi Fin & Madal,
I am getting very frustrated because I see all these bad looking guys or probably other guys with these tall beautiful blonds and I keep asking myself what do these guys have that I dont. It is very frustrating for me.
I also want to know whether plowing infield works. I have hread a few guys say that you should not bother because you may come across as clingy and others say that you could plow because that could be a shit test from a girl. |
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Ozonite
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| Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 6:36 am Post subject: Negs |
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I posted this in the thread "Ask The Doctor" but that was 4 days ago and I still havn't got an answer. So I'll post it here too and maybe you guys can give me an answer. 
Hi. I've been a keyboard jockey for about a year now. my 18th birthday is within a month and im going to start go to clubs so I'm getting prepared.
I have this problem with negs. I have lots of examples of negs but i dont now when to say them. Should i keep negging them throughout the whole pickup or just in the beginning of the interaction? What's the timing? Do you say it in the middle of a sentance? do you neg them every time they throw a shit test?
What about the neg that Mystery has when a girl touches him, he says: "hands of, that's 5 bucks every time you touch" (and if she keeps on touching) "are we writing a tab here?" It seems like it prevents you from kino escalating.
so to sum up. when do i start negging, how much, and for the whole interaction?
thanks in advance
// Ozonite |
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Fin
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| Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Wave_139 wrote: | Alright so here it goes, I have begun my first time of being a PUA, and i set out to do the newbie mission, you know where the AFC goes out and says hi or tries to say hi to 20 women. Well, I found that going to one of the malls where the HB 8-10 go and well, I found it way to intimidating, so I went and switched up to another mall where the HB 5-7, but I still only got 3 or 4 girls after saying hi, do you know what I am doing wrong? And also, later on in the night, at this fun park, I talked to a girl on her shift like this:
Me: Hi
Her: Hey, How are you?
Me: great (tired), and why do you sound so tired hmm? Busy?
Her: Yeah, its been like busy all day
Me: Well come on be cheerful, but is it always like this?
Her: Yeah, its usually okay
Me: Why dont you work at the mall?
Her: I did, but it isnt that great
Me: Really? Why not?
Her: blah blah blah
Me: Well do you go out?
Her: not much i just relax with my friends and all
Me: well if you ever want to go out you should try club purgatory.....
I was trying but it didnt go so well what did i do wrong guys? |
Well for the first one your doing nothing wrong, your just a bit scared and you just need to push through that with time. Good job going out their and doing that though (Y) 
For your second problem....
Questions, your asking to many, pretty much everything you are saying is a question trying to elicit a response from her, at this stage you can't rely on her to provide the leg/mouthwork.
Take centre stage, say something interesting, voice opinions, make comments etc Then as the conversation goes on, she will start to open to you
Good luck man! |
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Fin
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| Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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| enlightment wrote: | Hi, my name its enlightment and here is my issue:
I'd just recently started a little adventure with one of my co-workers who i've been knowing for over half of a year.
it started with me attempting to kiss her. she had shown me several IOIs prior to this so i just went for it. she rejected the kiss but it was cool because i didn't really liked her that much, reason why i was cool as hell to her even after this incident.
she stopped the flirting but since i acted like her rejection didn't phase me she started flirting again. this time i grabbed her ass while playing around with her and because she didn't mind this i went for the kiss one more time and it worked.
cool. so we kiss one more time in our next encounter at work (all this is happening privately). third encounter i ended up fingering her. 4th enounter finger her again.
i didn't see her for about a week after our last encounter. then we meet again at work and i'm thinking "we're going to do it again, i'm ready to sex her up". nothing. she didn't seem to be looking for an opportunity to fool around. so we didn't.
next time we meet i act somewhat thristy because i really wanted to do stuff with her again. i'm sure she noticed my efforts. she decided not to please me.
i'm thinking to my self, "ok, so i fucked up the game, i was acting cool and careless in the beginning and this made her want me, now, i've shown her that i want her and she doesn't want me anymore, because she can have me anytime she wants."
cool, i accepted my faith and got ready to move on. next day after our last encounter she decides to text me.
"fuck!" i'm thinking; if she is trying to blow me off, "Why the fuck is she texting me?" i'm also not so good at the texting game but it went something like this:
girl: (My Name)!
(after 10m) me: hey
girl: What's up?
(after 20m) shit. wats gewd
girl: i'm drinking and i thot of you
(after 5m) why thanks
girl: so what are you doing?
(after 5m) watching a movie at my girls crib
girl: lol i didnt know you had a girlfriend
(after 5m) i dnt
girl: what's "my girl"?
(after 20m) im on my way home. ill prolly see you at work tomorrow. good night
next day at work nothing happened between us. i didn't look for the opportunity like i had before for fear of being rejected and she didn't look for it either.
i want to talk to this girl but only if she likes me back still, not because i'm afraid of rejection but because i work with her and wouldn't want to make going to work a pain in the ass.
how can i built rapport with her again? and how would i notice that she wants me or not?
thank you. |
1. Women do not lose interest when you want them.
2. She has probably realised that she is fooling around with a co-worker, and has remembered that is generally a TERRIBLE idea. That is why she is feeling wierd.
3. You mentioned a girl, then when she asked you disssmissed it, making her think that you do have a gf and that you are cheating on her.
She is probably feeling terrible right now.
You want my advice?
Sort this situation out as friends and stop with all the monkey business if you value your jobs. |
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Rishi
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| Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 6:53 am Post subject: |
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Hey guys,
I have a weird question. I'm a girl. I know a guy through a bunch of mutual friends, and I'm starting to think that he's had one-itis for me for... a while now, maybe as long as we've known each other. He has a lot going for him- he's nice looking, intelligent, an officer in the air force, dresses well- basically, he really has his sh*t together. When he's around me he comes across as a total AFC, and he's always trying to buy me drinks or do stuff for me.
Anyway. Dude IMed me tonight asking if I'd ever thought about dating him, and I said that he has a lot of good qualities but comes across as too needy, so no. I told him a bit about how one-itis works and that he's seeing me through rose-colored glasses. He agreed, but said that there was still something special about me. D:
This is probably none of my beeswax, but what if I introduced him to game theory? All our friends think it is either a joke or creepy and unethical, so I can't count on anyone to help me out here. I'd feel presumptuous giving unsolicited advice to a guy who has a crush on me about how to get over... me. I think he'd make a great PUA. Should I do anything? |
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Bombshellbrunette
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| Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 3:04 am Post subject: girl next door |
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Hey!!! it's bunney! so i'm in college, i didnt really have a social life until high school. anyways i read the game by neil strauss. but here's my problem:
When i meet a guy, i have trouble with the whole opener. I know I should have 3 IOIs in order for me to decide to stay or leave, but it's like i fumble near the middle. What are some openers you would suggest I use on guys? |
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Grignir
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| Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 4:03 am Post subject: Re: question |
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| hamsterattack wrote: | nonetheless, for lack of experience (especially with older women - im 18, she looked about 40) i remained rather withdrawn. additionally, she mentioned that she has a daughter around my age which kind of intimidated me. to my surprise, however, when i left the store, she told me to take her card, to call her anytime if i had any questions, and that she wanted to see me back soon.
I do hope to return to the store, but Im unsure about how to handle her. I mean, what can i even do with a woman so much older as far as going out? |
You're 18, she's 40. You have the upper hand. She's the one risking being laughed at. Just remember that. |
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xplozuhn
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| Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 5:00 am Post subject: |
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| Hey guys, I'm new here. I'm 6 feet tall, and weigh 205, so I'm a bit overweight. My question is just, all other factors aside, how much is my extra weight going to work against me when attempting to pick up women? |
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bombs551
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| Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 2:43 am Post subject: |
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hey guys, i'm 19 and in college. i got out of a serious (well as serious as 18 year olds get) relationship about a year ago and its been pretty rough and i only really got over her mostly at the end of last year (she was my first time so i was a little bit obsessed). but now it seems like i got nobody. all my "friends" from high school don't talk to me and i only have 3 friends that i actually hang out with. being down at campus sucks because i'm apparently quiet and i don't talk to anybody (though there are a few people in some classes that i chat with but no friends). i'm a mess. i see pretty girls and i want to talk to them but i always wuss out. and when i'm around new people i'm not myself and i'm very quiet/serious which really sucks because my natural self is a prime example of cocky funny. so, any help/tips?
p.s. i know there wasn't a question in there, but idk what to say at this point |
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minh_gankie
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| Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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Hey guys I am a senior in college. I have been a AFC my whole life. I still am an AFC, but its somewhat different now. Let me explain.
I used to be the really skinny kid (about 5 7 1/2, 120 lbs) who would wear PJs to school back in high school and early college. So I decided to get in decent shape, groomed myself, and started dressing better. And about a year ago I started to read around these forums and worked on my inner game, focusing on my good qualities (hard-worker, intelligent, decent athlete, good friend, etc), reminding myself of stuff like that and it really worked wonders on my confidence. I started getting myself to have better posture, stop biting my nails, etc. The list goes on and on.
To summarize, I have been at self improvement during these past couple of years in college.
Now, maybe I being schizo, but it seems like girls in my major department (which is about 200 kids, so it is a small enough group) give me major IOIs during classes. And its not like once or twice during class, its for the whole class.
Also, I have seen a number of women, whether it be while I am walking on campus or running errands, have random hot flashes?
By the way this is for during the day.
Problem is I don't know these girls at all. And to be honest, I don't end up partying in college often. TBH most of the time, I am doing work, and when I do want to hang out, my friends don't want to go places where I could meet people from school (bars, frat parties).
And even if they did want to go to places like that, the problem is, I still don't know how to talk to these girls. The most I have done with a girl in my LIFE is second base with a girl. I have never kissed a girl or been in a relationship. I have no experience at this sort of thing, which is why I am coming to YOU folks for help! It would be very much appreciated! |
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Madals
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| Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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Apologises for not answering posts recently, to cut a long story short I have had to have major surgery and will be on very strong painkillers for the near future and therefore will not be answering posts in this thread as I feel I will not be able to give the best quality responses that you should expect of me.
Feel free to keep posting questions as I will answer them on day's I feel well and Fin will be continuing as normal.
Thankyou in advance for your understanding.
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TVA_Oslo
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| Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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I got a question. kinda interested in your view.
I approach a girl and generate some sexual tension, I am only on the ST (sexual tension) level 1, and she breaks the tension. How do I rebuild the ST for reaching a higher level of ST (ST level 2...)
Like i generate the tension, and then she starts laughing and doing goofey faces and dance playfully with me, but is not in the sexual trance as she was before breaking it.
How do you get back into the sexual tension after a sexual tension break and how you increase it.
Thanks in advance. |
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Madals
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| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 11:18 am Post subject: |
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THREAD RE-OPEN FOR BUSINESS
| TVA_Oslo wrote: | I got a question. kinda interested in your view.
I approach a girl and generate some sexual tension, I am only on the ST (sexual tension) level 1, and she breaks the tension. How do I rebuild the ST for reaching a higher level of ST (ST level 2...)
Like i generate the tension, and then she starts laughing and doing goofey faces and dance playfully with me, but is not in the sexual trance as she was before breaking it.
How do you get back into the sexual tension after a sexual tension break and how you increase it.
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Right, firstly I am going to suggest WHY she is breaking the sexual tension.
Without knowing how your current relationship is going, it sounds like she is getting carried away in the moment (getting into that "sexual trance") and then suddenly realises she isn't comfortable with how sexual things are becoming and therefore tries to kill it by going back to flirty and playful.
To help you more, could you answer these:
Have you done much to make her feel special and wanted, rather than just a lay?
Where do you normally go together and where do you build this sexual tension?
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jhoffa
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| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Harleystcool wrote: | | Hi i'm harley, i was wondering, if you tell a lie, is it true that your pants are actually on fire? or is that just a myth? |
HAHAHAHAHA!!! That caught me totally off guard. I trust it was written in good spirits. It's good for people to put some humor into this forum. I think that we are all so very focused on reaching our goals that some might lose sight on what this is all really about. HAVING A GOOD TIME Cheers to Living Attractions for this thread. Great work fellas. |
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