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Hey Adam, I just wanna say first that I love your material, I listen to you every day in my car. Thanks for all you've done man, seriously.
My problem isn't with approaching, opening, or comfort building. I have a SERIOUS issue with LMR. I can get girls into a room, and make out for as long as I want, but I'd say that 75% of the time I don't get further than that. I'll go for the button on her pants and she'll take my hand and put it somewhere else. This gets incredibly frustrating and most of the time i'll just leave. This happened to me last night. Happened to me two weeks ago, and at least 4 other times in recent memory. So, as I'm typing this I have 4 hickeys on the right side of my neck, but did not get laid last night. How can I break down this resistance? Thanks in advance.
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Hey Adam, general questions:
1. I am playful and a funny guy, but to be "that person", I need to be in state, which not a state that I'm always in. If I'm not in state, my teasings become insulting and it becomes a little bit difficult. So how do I "pump her state" a.k.a being fun in moment like this?? Can I pump her state or add value by giving a lot of fun topics to talk about instead??
2. For social circle game, do I have to get close to each person in the circle? Or having them as hang out friends is enough?? Because getting close to each of the entourage member is too tiring and time consuming.
Thanks for this one, mate!!
Best pal,
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Ok, just copy/pasted from FB
Hey Adam,
first of all, congrats to you and Amanda for getting married, best wishes to both of you,
second, i have a question that would kinda suit your style of game (social proof, social circle, etc). I work as a bartender and "party guide" (like tour guide for big dance events like Sensation White and stuff) from time to time so i keep in touch with a lot of hostesses and other good looking girls, but its always a 1 on 1 interaction. I was planning to throw a house party when i'll have the house to myself (ye well, i'm 19, don't have my own place), to kinda create a new social circle (my old one is like 75% guys and they are terrible with women. And no, i dont want to make them wings.) So what should i be aware of when putting a bunch of hot girls who don't know each other in the same room for the first time? Is it even a good idea? And what should i do with my old social circle & how to keep them away from the party so they don't "leech" off my value? They know the party will be happening and all want to come, but cant really "contribute" anything to it...
Thanks in advance man, you are a real inspiration.
T.K.
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Social proof rocks, especially when your date is late and when she comes you are already sitting down with a FHM girl (With who you arrange to go partying the next week) |
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Hey Adam, hope ur doing well.
I've got three questions I'm hoping you're able to answer.
1. How do I act positive/add value without being the guy thats too pushy or too dancing monkey like. Because it seems that when I try to be those things, I seem try hard or maybe too pushy.
2. what do I do when I ask compliance from someone and she refuses to comply?
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| Angelz wrote: | AFCAdam
Thank you for the reply for my previos quesiton, it makes sense now. But I have a new one. Is it normal for a girl to flirt around with other guy despite the fact she is your girlfriend and have a really strong relationship with you. Also how do you handle her doing such things?
I know you said that a strong relationship is all about trust and confidence but this is such a senstivie matter can easily be mistaken if brought up in a relationship. I am jus asking to make sure.
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Hey Angelz,
Glad I could help you on the previous question, that's why I'm here! OK, now this one can be tough and I definitely see how it is a sensitive matter. If you and your girl are in a completely exclusive relationship, then NO it is not normal for her to flirt with other guys. Not only does it make you look bad, but it weakens the trust in the relationship and leaves you questioning if there are other motives behind it.
If it bothers you, which it obviously does, you need to bring it up. It's going to be awkward and uncomfortable, but you need to tell her how you feel and that you don't like it. Decide if it is a deal breaker... if it is then tell her it needs to stop or you won't want to be in the relationship anymore.
That's the only way to handle it. Good luck with this one, mate.
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| Top-Hat wrote: | hi Adam
i started gaming online wot do u think of this conversation and how could i improve the conversation and where should i go from here
cheers in advance mate
ME hey wts up dude
HB heyyy nothing much really you ? xoxo
ME im jus chillin, surfin around tryin to chat to some cool ppl
HB i think we are pretty cool (Y)
ME i hope so Razz, as long as ur not a sick pervert we're all good
HB nah im not a sick pervert lmao
hehe Smile
sooo... Smile
xxx
ME are you a bum or do you do something when your not on here Smile ???
HB huuuh ? am i a bum ? lmaoo
x
ME lol, ur not good at reading r ya Razz
wt i ment was do u do nethin cool when ur not on this site Smile
HB lmaooo ahhh reet i go on msn or facebook ...or listen to music Smile
you ?
xoxo
ME well im a bit mor active than ya,
usually im out riding my bmx with my m8s, going out shoppin, basically havin loads of laughs with the guys
atm im at college tryin to get through a levels
u go school???
HB i thought you ment what you do on the comp lmao ... yeah i go out with friends ive just finished school ... i applyed for college and an nhs cadet course which you work in a hospital for three days a qweek then college the other two day and i got intothat .
ME you must be a very considerate person??
HB lol you got msn ?
xx
This conversation then went onto msn messenger
(14:13) ME: hey
(14:14) HB: hiii:)
(14:14) ME: found ya Razz
(14:14) HB: Razz
Woop
(14:15) ME: so y familychelsi
Razz
(14:15) HB: i dunno i made it when i was 12
:L
or 11 cant remeber
(14:15) ME: ok we'll leave it at that
lol
(14:15) HB: lmao :L so dont be put off lmao :L:L
(14:16) ME: hehe
(14:16) HB: Smile
(14:16) ME: so wts u bin doin whilst ive been aWAY
(14:16) HB: erm nothing much working Sad
(14:17) ME: thats kool
(14:17) HB: lol :W
(14:17) ME: is work hard or borin
(14:17) ME: or both
(14:17) HB: both haaaa
(14:17) ME: get pay???
(14:1Cool HB: i get paid monthly which is even shitter lmao
(14:1Cool ME: lol
id prefer that actually
(14:1Cool ME: means i dnt spend it all
every week
(14:1Cool HB: yeah
lol
(14:19) HB: were bouts you live?
(14:19) ME: luton blad
Razz
(14:19) ME: how bout u
(14:19) HB: preston :W
(14:20) ME: fun?
(14:20) HB: no l ol
(14:21) ME: it got ne good shoppin centres
(14:21) HB: ermm yeah there okay .....
do you liive near bluewater?
(14:21) ME: not too far
bout 1 hrs drive
(14:22) HB: .i LOVEEEE bluewater
(14:22) ME: init man
its awesome
(14:22) HB: lool
(14:22) ME: used to go to cinema there shoppin
(14:22) HB: :W :* Wink
(14:23) ME: im goin out soon btw
(14:23) HB: okay Sad
(14:23) ME: it's ok dnt cry Razz~
(14:25) ME: u gt ur hols yet
(14:25) HB: yeahh :
Smile
(14:25) ME: wt u plannin on doin
(14:26) HB: i dunno i like im staying in london at somepoint
well kent
(14:26) ME: used to live in kent
(14:26) HB: Razz
(14:26) ME: it's an ok
place
(14:26) HB: yeah
(14:26) ME: stay in london it's awesome
(14:27) HB: most of my famly live there and in gRavesend
(14:27) ME: used to pass through ther on the train
(14:2Cool HB: Smile
(14:2Cool HB: asif you live soo far away
(14:29) ME: huh wts that
(14:29) HB: you live so far away lol
(14:29) ME: nah m8
(14:29) HB: huh
(14:30) ME: my family is colse to there
stoke
(14:30) HB: near to preston ?
(14:30) ME: think so
(14:30) HB: hehe ;)ayy
(14:30) ME: im goin there next wek
(14:31) HB: ohhhh Razz
(14:32) ME: gt many friends
(14:32) HB: huh? :L
(14:32) ME: do u hav alot of freinds or r u an unsocial bastard Razz
(14:33) HB: i have quite alot Razz
(14:33) ME: lol
(14:33) HB: :L
(14:33) ME: lie
(14:33) HB: :-O
(14:33) ME: jkin dnt cry
(14:33) HB: :L
(14:34) ME: do u stay fit?
me likes random questions
(14:35) HB: haaaha hmmm.... yeah i go on my tredmill :L
(14:35) ME: wt like once a year or is that too much Razz
(14:36) HB: haha :L nah i go on it about only 3 times a week because i work quite alot
(14:36) ME: koolio
yh i jus go bmxin
(14:36) HB: cool (Y)
(14:36) ME: i dnt work enuf
(14:37) ME: so dats wt im doin most of the time
(14:37) HB: hehe were do you work
?
(14:37) ME: i wash lorrys (Y) ^o)
(14:37) ME: for my m8s dad's company
(14:3Cool HB: cool ... haard work ? there massivee !
(14:3Cool ME: hehe
not hard work
(14:3Cool HB: :L
(14:3Cool ME: once u gt the mind set it's easy
^o)
(14:39) ME: where do u work btw
(14:39) HB: you know midland hotel have you got one were you live?
(14:40) ME: hmmm no
(14:40) HB: ohhh yeah i work there ... it well hard ..
(14:41) ME: wt u do
(14:41) HB: work functions weddings and stuff like that but its 4 or 5 star hotel so we have to be really good and the shifts are all like 14 hours
im like :S
but its £6.50 so im not that fussed
(14:42) ME: fair enuf
(14:42) HB: Razz
(14:42) ME: it sounds so fun
(14:42) HB: ...no lol
(14:42) ME: lol
(14:43) ME: my works way mor fun than urs
(14:43) HB: im only working there because its 6.50 an hour lmao
lol i bet it is
(14:43) ME: it's sposed to b stressful
(14:43) HB: lmaoo
(14:46) HB: byeeeee talk to you later Wink xoxoxooxox
(14:46) ME: bye
(14:46) HB: Smile
(14:46) HB is now Offline
Session Start: 11 July 2009
(00:33) ME: hey
(00:33) HB: hiii
(00:33) ME: jus get back from work???
(00:33) HB: nah i finished at 7 today Smile
(00:34) ME: kool
y u up so l8 then??
(00:34) HB: i cnt get to sleep Sad
(00:34) ME: is sum1 still havin nitemares
(00:35) HB: hehe no but you can come over if you like then i wont have them
(00:35) ME: so wts ur address Razz
(00:35) HB: Wink
(00:35) ME: dw i'll keep u safe
(00:36) HB: Smile woop hehe
(00:37) ME: we'll jus pretend im there
(00:37) HB: loool Smile
(00:37) ME: but dnt hav an orgasm on me
please
(00:37) HB: :L:L:L dont worry i wont lmao
(00:3Cool ME: so wt uber cool things did u do today
(00:39) HB: erm work Sad ahhaa you do anything fun ?:L
(00:39) ME: alton towers....yhhhhh
(00:39) HB: :-O jelous much !!!!!
(00:39) ME: sorry forgot to invite ya
(00:39) HB: hmf
:L
(00:40) ME: Razz
(00:40) HB: :W
(00:40) ME: im sure it was much mor fun at work
im jelous
(00:40) HB: nahh it was shite
(00:40) ME: dont b so negative
(00:40) HB: lol
:L
(00:41) ME: hav u got a cam
(00:41) HB: yeah but i look eugggh
(00:41) ME: do u think i care
(00:41) HB: yh
(00:42) ME: im sure u'll b very good looking in any state
(00:42) ME: mayb even sexy Razz
(00:42) HB: hehe no honestly i look horrible lmao ill go on tomoz i promise Razz but oli if you have cam i only go on wen other people do
(00:43) ME: erm well showing my face would me not very mysterious
be *
(00:43) ME: but for you i may hav to
your very easy to talk to
(00:44) HB: am i Cool
:L
(00:45) ME: of coursealthough u seem to find everything i say funny
(00:45) HB: im sure putting that laughing face is a habbit
(00:45) ME: ok...course it is
(00:46) HB: ... yup
(00:46) ME: if i wasnt funny y r u still talking to me...hmmm
(00:47) ME: hmm
(00:47) HB: Razz
(00:49) ME: hmm im tryin to figure out wt colour eyes u hav
(00:49) ME | - is now Offline
(00:49) ME | - is now Online
(00:49) ME: sorry my internet is poo
(00:50) HB: tha might help you
(00:50) ME: huh
(00:50) HB is now Offline
(00:50) HB is now Online
(00:51) HB: lol sorry bout that
(00:51) ME: better b Razz
(00:51) HB: :L
soooooo...
(00:51) ME: its blu on my screen
(00:51) HB: yeah i ahve blue eyes
(00:52) ME: thats cool i do prefer green thou
(00:52) HB: cool
(00:52) ME: Razz
(00:53) ME: hav u been alton towers b4
(00:53) HB: nope
(00:53) ME: lame
i'll take ya 1 day
(00:53) ME: although i hav no car
(00:54) HB: haahaa hm.. yeah when you have a car Smile come and get me Smile
(00:55) ME: will u b expectig a sports car or a limo
(00:55) HB: any;P
(00:55) ME: okie dokie
(00:55) HB: Razz
(01:00) ME: brb
(01:00) HB: oakii
(01:05) ME: bck
(01:05) ME: hav u fallen asleep yet
(01:05) HB: nopee
(01:06) ME: so wat was soo shite about work today
(01:07) HB: erm we had an afternoon tea its were they have tea and coffee and food like scones and then they had a tour around the hotel but that ended really quick so then we had to sset up for a wedding tomoz and i had to polish cutlery
(01:0Cool ME: that doent sound too bad
(01:09) HB: lool
(01:09) ME: do u not like scones or somethin
(01:09) HB: we dont get to eat them Sad lol
(01:09) HB: sooo im spending tomoz night cleaning up glasses woop
(01:10) ME: yay...sounds awesome
(01:12) ME: so wt u doin tomorrow
(01:13) HB: ermmm im gonna go into toen with friends then at night working Sad you ?
town *
(01:14) ME: going to try and avoid helping the parents clear out the loft, and then go out
ooo wt u buyin???
(01:15) HB: i dunno yet
(01:16) ME: well go and treat urslef
(01:17) ME: i wont always b there to treat ya Razz
(01:1Cool HB: ayyy Wink
(01:19) ME: well neway i gta go
(01:20) HB: okay byeeee xoooxx
(01:20) ME: bye
luv ya Razz
(01:20) ME: o and get to bed
(01:20) ME | - is now Offline |
Hey TopHat,
I'm going to be completely honest with you and say that I did not read that. I have way too much ADD and too busy of a schedule to read entire conversations that span over 6 pages of text. If you have a specific question or a sticking point then I can help you out!
Try asking about a certain aspect of game and I would be more than happy to help!
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| Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:18 am Post subject: Re: Seriuosly considering your NYC BootCamp |
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| SAF12 wrote: | Hello Adam
My name is steve i live in NYC I am new to this game but find the whole concept of pickup is very intriguing (for reason that go beyond simply bedding lots of women).I never though Id ever want to take a BC but ive seem your videos and you seem different from most of the other guys and now you BC is a serious consideration. Im 19 and Though I have some disposable income $1,000 is still alot. Now im in no way trying to compain since I know your BC is much less than most others out there. Ive read the few reviews ive seen online and my only concern which seems to plague most bootcamps of MPUAs from what I read is am I going to be taught by you specificlly or am i goign to hear you talk for an hour or two then get an instructer for the rest of the time? I realize that you have 13 other students but are we all goign to et one on one time or are yougoing to be mor elike a colleg professor who has the TAs deal with the stuents (which from what Ive read is what lots of guys in the buisness are doing today).Even though your answer may be byast from what I have read your a good guy whos not out there just to make money liek some of the other MPUAs in the game so I figure youd give me a pretty honest answer. I know you have a GF and for that reason you no longer do live pickups (understandable). I liek your style of Game and you seem to be a person I could introduce to my friends without a wierd "why the fuck are you friends with that guy" look whihc is exactly the type of PUA I would liek to be. (sry extreme peacokcing is just not for me). Also your NYC BC is on the same day Im supposed to go back to school so id have to drive 3 hours there then 3 hous back then another 3 hours there agian and miss my fraternitys firts party of the semester and considering Im the guy in charge of runnign our parties that could be no bueno. I remember you saying your in a fraternity in one of your videos so you undrstand fraternity politics. Anyway what i mean is will you be having another NYC BC whihc I may attend any time soon or is this the last one in the near future? |
Hey SAF12,
Thanks for your interest in a bootcamp! I have a team of instructors who are also on the courses to make sure that everyone gets personalized attention throughout the whole weekend, but I actually do teach on my own bootcamps. Drop an email to my partner and she will be able to fill you in on an all of the bootcamp questions you might have. Feel free to just copy and paste your questions from this thread if you need to. Reach her at torres@attractionexplained.com
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| Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:18 am Post subject: Re: Need help on what to do next!! |
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| Amaranth101 wrote: | Hey there Adam! How ya doin brutha! Well, here's my issue:
So I get this girl who I initially approached maybe an hour after I re approach her on the dance floor with her friend( who was interested in my best friend, which worked out for me) and we get very sexual on the dancefloor. It would actually be worth mentioning that even before this encounter on the dancfloor, she approached me while some guys tried to dance with her, then left while saying "we'll be back". Didn't buy it. So when I saw them on the dancefloor again and re-engaged them, my best friend occupied her friend, and I got my target. Like I said, we dance very sexual, she let's my explore her body without resistance, I kiss her neck, turn her around and look at her as if i want to kiss her, but doesn't let me and looks up, so I go back to her neck again. She turns around and has her back to me still dancing as sexy as can be, then i do more exploring and kiss and bite her neck. I yet again, turn her around, look at her, go for the lips, lets me kiss, but looks up again and once again I go to the neck. This goes on for at least 15 minutes and then her and her friend say, "were gonna go upstairs, we'll be back!"
My question is: How do I get her to make out with me without resistance, and what's the proper way with handling the " we'll be back" B.S?
Thanks for everything Adam!
Victor (LA bootcamp) |
Victor!
Mate, sooo good to hear from you! OK, if a girl is letting you get very sexual but won't kiss then skip the kissing stage and go further. Don't think of sexual escalation as a 1-2-3 process that needs to go in order. It's ok to skip something and maybe go 1-3-4 and then go back to 2. If you and the girl are all over each other and your hands are down her pants she will kiss you, trust me.
The “we'll be back” one is iffy. Good that you saw them and reengaged them. The best thing to do is to talk to other girls and build up your social proof while they disappear. They will then see you later in the evening, hopefully with a bunch of females, and then reopening will go a million times easier. You will often find that they will open you and fall into your social proof trap.
Sounds like things are really progressing with you. Have fun mate !
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| Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:19 am Post subject: Re: Question For Adam |
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| indianlatin wrote: | Wow! man I gotta say your a true fucking legend and I really dig everything you have done for the community, so that's why I now seek your advice.
As of right now I'am in los angeles, paying my way through college, I live in a very tiny room in a backhouse shared by 3 other people, and I have an average entry-level job that supports me and leaves very little left at the end of the month.
So I was wondering if there is a way to build a female social circle, without inviting them to my place and also without having to cost me too much?
Also I was wondering if you have any specific techniques or guidelines that can be used with or without entourage game to game a super rediculously retarded hot girl that is a true HB 11 (think as if the girl is megan fox, with all the perks,confidence, and people trying to get with her)
PS I know it's an insane question, but I thank you in advance for trying to answer it , and I know I should not be outcome dependent, but my whole goal with pick up is to get to the point where I can get any girl I want 90% of the time, and again thank you |
Hey indianlatin,
Yes, there is a way to build a female social circle without inviting them to your place or spending much money. A bar or lounge near your college is a great place to start. Pick a day to hold a weekly event where you can invite everyone you know for happy hour. It is a public place so you don't need them at your place and since it is a bar they will all be buying their own drinks at cheap happy hour prices.
And yes, there are specific techniques to gaming 10s+ but to be honest mate, it is far too lengthy to teach over a forum post...I teach weekend bootcamps on that specific topic so it's a 3 day event. The short answer is already the path you're going on and that is social circle.
Cheers mate!
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| desertfox565 wrote: | Hey Adam,
Thanks for all of your advices mate, thanks for answering my field reports, etc2. And congratulations on your marriage too! Have a happy and blessed new life.
So Adam, if you noticed my posts in your thread, for the last 8 months, it's revolving on the same one girl. I know, maybe yourself will be like "that's too long" or something, but I believe she was attracted to me. And thanks to your method, and your simple book "Principles of Attraction", she was the 1st girl ever that I've ever been on an instant date, she's the 1st girl that I attracted in a correct away, etc.
So Adam, it was all beautiful moments, if it's not because of the logistics (she can't drive, and her chauffeur is sick when she's able to meet me, and I can't pick her up, because I can't drive either!!) she would be fallen in to arms. So after that 1 failed attempt to hang out with her, I went out of the town for 3 weeks, and what I thought is I messed up in this "keep in touch before attempting another try to ask her out" period.
I was needy because I deeply fell in love with her ( we haven't got together yet, but I know she is attracted to me, judged from her compliance and investment in me), so I sent needy texts, implying that she' more commited than it is, etc. So until one day, I texted her "You know, it sucks that we have to say goodbye so soon, and it's really rare to find somebody who I actually want to hang out with, somebody who's actually interesting. I've met a lot of girls, (she knows that I have a lot of female friends) and there's just something unique about you. So that's why I invite you for a final hang out with us (me and my best friend Grace, we've been out once).
(she's moving to another city, so I told her it might be the last hangout). When are you free?"
And she was like "IDK, I feel so happy that we have to say goodbye so soon, haha kidding XD.. seems like you're busy eh? Talk to you later and I'm never free.. hehehe.... good bye!".
I thought "game over". It's not funny at all,and she reacted really differently now.
So Adam, I'll be seeing another girl, dating another, but maybe I won't find a girl of her quality (intelligence, dilligence, etc.). Maybe I will, but it would never be the same.
Is it still possible to recite her interest?? I know that this things happens, because girls are all about emotion. She'll be moving out of town, so is it possible? Long long before, I've managed to get a high value guy in her eyes, she complimented my honesty, understandings of women, etc, and she's even still interested after I told her that I'm a student of yours (I recommended your method to her too . Is it the same way as getting your ex back??
Thanks a million, mate!!
Best pal,
Steven |
Hey desertfox565,
Yep, this one is tough. In a situation like this the best advice I can give is don't chase a dead set. You asked her to hang out one last time before she moves and she just about flat out said no. If she's moving away to a different city then it will be a LOT harder to see her then... If you're not getting compliance when you're near each other then you will not get it when you're far away.
She might have been interested initially but from what you said it doesn't seem like it now. So like I said, don't chase a dead set. Instead of putting time in and investing in this girl find 5 more and start all over again with them. It sucks, but it's the best thing to do.
Hope this helps mate.
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| chevylover wrote: | Hey Adam, I just wanna say first that I love your material, I listen to you every day in my car. Thanks for all you've done man, seriously.
My problem isn't with approaching, opening, or comfort building. I have a SERIOUS issue with LMR. I can get girls into a room, and make out for as long as I want, but I'd say that 75% of the time I don't get further than that. I'll go for the button on her pants and she'll take my hand and put it somewhere else. This gets incredibly frustrating and most of the time i'll just leave. This happened to me last night. Happened to me two weeks ago, and at least 4 other times in recent memory. So, as I'm typing this I have 4 hickeys on the right side of my neck, but did not get laid last night. How can I break down this resistance? Thanks in advance.
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Hey Chevylover,
If you're able to get a girl back to a spot where its' just the two of you and your isolated then there should not be a problem with LMR. Getting back to your/her place is about 80% of the battle, so there is no excuse to fail on the last 20%.
One of the best ways I have found of making sure you don't get LMR is to have a justification of what you're doing. For example, when you are in your bed and making out saying something like “I love that you're so carefree and comfortable with your sexuality. That's a big turn on” will let her know that you won't judge her for her actions so she will be comfortable with it. Even something simple like opening a bottle of wine to share when you're back at your place will help... The point isn't to get drunk but it will give her a justification in her head. She'll be able to think 'oh, we were just at his place drinking wine and it just happened!'
Try these out, they should definitely help. Good luck mate.
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| desertfox565 wrote: | Hey Adam, general questions:
1. I am playful and a funny guy, but to be "that person", I need to be in state, which not a state that I'm always in. If I'm not in state, my teasings become insulting and it becomes a little bit difficult. So how do I "pump her state" a.k.a being fun in moment like this?? Can I pump her state or add value by giving a lot of fun topics to talk about instead??
2. For social circle game, do I have to get close to each person in the circle? Or having them as hang out friends is enough?? Because getting close to each of the entourage member is too tiring and time consuming.
Thanks for this one, mate!!
Best pal,
Steven |
Hey desertfox565,
I'll be honest here, I'm not a big believer in state. Yes, there are days where your attitude is better than others and days where even the smallest thing can make life difficult, but that should not effect your ability to game. You don't need to be high energy and happy all the time. There is such thing as low-energy game so maybe for the days where you don't feel “in state” so use that to your advantage. No need to try and run around being the fun guy all the time. Allow yourself to chill and build deep, genuine connections through conversation.
And for social circles, no, you don't need to be BFF with every person. Choose who your close friends will be and then allow the others to be surface friends. It's ok to have a lot of acquaintances, just make sure that you are still able to add value so that you don't get the reputation of being someone who uses people.
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| theTK wrote: | Ok, just copy/pasted from FB
Hey Adam,
first of all, congrats to you and Amanda for getting married, best wishes to both of you,
second, i have a question that would kinda suit your style of game (social proof, social circle, etc). I work as a bartender and "party guide" (like tour guide for big dance events like Sensation White and stuff) from time to time so i keep in touch with a lot of hostesses and other good looking girls, but its always a 1 on 1 interaction. I was planning to throw a house party when i'll have the house to myself (ye well, i'm 19, don't have my own place), to kinda create a new social circle (my old one is like 75% guys and they are terrible with women. And no, i dont want to make them wings.) So what should i be aware of when putting a bunch of hot girls who don't know each other in the same room for the first time? Is it even a good idea? And what should i do with my old social circle & how to keep them away from the party so they don't "leech" off my value? They know the party will be happening and all want to come, but cant really "contribute" anything to it...
Thanks in advance man, you are a real inspiration.
T.K.
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Social proof rocks, especially when your date is late and when she comes you are already sitting down with a FHM girl (With who you arrange to go partying the next week) |
Hey TheTK,
Yes, it is an amazing idea to put a bunch of hot girls in the same room! That is where your preselection will be skyrocketed and, as I've said a hundred times before, preselection is the only psychologically proven trigger of attraction.
The good thing about girls is that they entertain themselves. Be a good host by introducing some people that might not know each other... for example if you know that certain girls have something in common then introduce them and they'll keep each other occupied all night while you get to socialise with everyone.
In terms of your friends... tell them they can only come if they bring 3 girls themselves (ny rule used to be 10 girls but I had big parties in big nightclubs). That will weed out the ones that can't contribute and the ones that can bring the girls are the ones you won't mind being there since they're adding value.
Have fun with this mate!
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| thepaper wrote: | Hey Adam, hope ur doing well.
I've got three questions I'm hoping you're able to answer.
1. How do I act positive/add value without being the guy thats too pushy or too dancing monkey like. Because it seems that when I try to be those things, I seem try hard or maybe too pushy.
2. what do I do when I ask compliance from someone and she refuses to comply?
.. and how do you deal with someone who takes advantage of your good intentions of helping out? maybe they constantly ask you ro do favours, or something like that. How do I prevent from becoming a pushover? |
Heya Thepaper,
The easiest way to add value without coming off like a performing monkey is to build that social life. If you're the life of the party or, more importantly, the dude who organised the party everyone will be too busy sucking up to you to worry about whether you added value or not.
If you don't get compliance, simply shift back a gear and go for a smaller level of compliance. If they won't walk with you to the bar perhaps they would play a game of thumb war to decide who is going to carry the drinks from the bar...there is more than one way to skin a cat, if she loses...she's coming with you.
Don't do someone favours unless you really know them well and don't mind helping. You shouldn't be doing favours for girls you don't know.
Hope this helps!
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Hey Adam,
first of all i wanna thank you for all your hard work you put in this forum and answering all of our questions!
Now here is my question:
im 20 years old and in college, now this is the time where everybody is getting drunk all the time and everybody thinks thats cool. Well, i dont drink and everytime i talk to a girl she ask why i dont drink. They think this is just lame and a big turn off. How do you handle it when a girl asks you why you dont drink?
Many thanks,
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