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Warped Mindless
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| BadolzoN wrote: |
1) You have to show her how good you are, if you're rich and nobody knows it - who cares?
I don't have to show her anything. Feeling as though you HAVE to show her is needy and validation seeking. Also, what does being rich have to do with anything? I'm not after gold diggers.
2) Don't DIRECTLY say you're great, EMBED them into DHV spikes in stories or in speaking.
Again, I don't worry about DHV stories. Why should I? I tell stories to have fun and self amuse. I don't need to prove I'm high value, that again is validation seeking.
3) "If you're Alpha people will just know it" This is completely wrong, you somewhat convey Alphamale characteristics through actions and words.
I never said anything about being alpha.
4) If you convey disinterest, she'll want to convey interest more because she's fighting for you back. She may SUBCONCIOUSLY know you're interested in her, but if you show her conciously that you're not that
The theory behind direct game is that showing desire for the woman will increase her desire. A recent scientific study bascially proved that theory. As long as your not a chode and you show desire for the women, it will increase her desire for you.
5) You're not trying to convey superiority - you just want to be the guy that makes her days better and you want to increase your value. Nobody should be BETTER than each other in a relationship - nobody wants to feel inferior.
I agree.
6) On the contrary, when you approach a girl, your value is lowered. YOU HAD TO APPROACH HER, therefore you're lower value. This is why you're trying to gain attraction and value through stories.
I didn't HAVE to approach the girl. No one is holding a gun to my head and forcing me to approach. Second, I'm not trying to gain attraction, I just assume attraction. I'm also not attached to any outcome, I just have fun. Third, if anything, approaching would raise your value because you did something most other chodes wont do, approach. When I approach I dont worry about value though, my mindset is that our value is equal.
Listen to any Mystery Method videos and you'll know what I'm talking about.
Look outside the box and you'll know what I'm talking about.
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bradjackson
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| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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I'll pipe in real quickly on some aspects of this.
Yes Gambler is releasing this report and the new Video for Free because he is launching a product called Stealth Attraction.
The new video is here: [link]
Yes, it's marketing where he gives away a lot of great and useful information in order to build value before asking you to buy an undoubtedly expensive (though valuable) course.
But what's wrong with giving out free information to build trust and rapport with everyone?
It's just like "pick up."
You show a girl your best side. You seduce her with your charms, you DHV. You bring your wit and you even take her out on dates.
You're building up her buying temperature right?
Well what if you do all that and the girl doesn't become your girlfriend, sleep with you or marry your ass? Did that stop her from getting value out of the interaction?
Nope. Not at all. She's all the better for it.
Rich takes his time to produce high quality training products. How many of you do that? Why shouldn't he get paid well if he produces good stuff?
He's not forcing you to pay a penny for anything. He gives away more quality nuggest for free than most people do for money.
You're being marketed to every single day. You're not complaining about free samples at the supermarket in order to get you to buy their food are you?
I'm glad to hear all the good responses from people who actually enjoy what Rich is doing.
Here's that video again, he literally just released it 30 minutes ago.: [link] |
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| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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I read it today, most of it was nothing new. A decent read for a beginer but he really doesn't explain specifics just general idea's. The most value I got out of it was how he explained pattern recogntion, and the value of going about things with least effort.
I've been in the field long enough to know that if your talking to a girl she knows the deal, & even if you can play it off as the cool friendly social guy and go in under the radar you lose the ability to flip a lot of attraction switches & you are going to have to shift at some point & it only makes it harder IMO.
I just think go strong and direct at this point, and the mindset of the selector. That's where I got the value of his pattern recognition. Yeah shes been approached 100's of times so learn how to walk up strong in a way that the top 1% did. |
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PUAdave
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| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Hmm I watched the video. I found the "hey how have you been" opener interesting for managing to swipe girls out of big groups or with their BF's standing right there. Has to be primed of course. Basically you open a set, & wave at another girl like you know her. If she reciprocates you walk over and say hey how have you been loudly. People in the group think you know her, you game. Interesting. Cuts down on choding about by yourself which is positive to. You can bounce from set to set. Could be some value in that. |
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wolf101
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| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:28 pm Post subject: i read it to |
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| there some interesting points in it i like idea of being able to move for one set you the other without the long pause inbitween. i think also get the "hey how you been" for you reason firtly it stops cock blocks and puts the HB into soical complance mode. |
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arnolfo
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| Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 10:40 am Post subject: |
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i have one question for you guys
gambler do this special offer "stealth attraction" in wich he gives for free:
3 dvds
a ticket for a seminar
a month subscription
sounds cool isn't it?
but what can he get from this offer?
i know he try to show you his product for free and then you will keep buyng that because you saw they were good product
but are you guys sure this isn't a trap....i mean after receiving the product you have to pay something every months without the possibility to cancel?
p.s i'm not here for hating.i like gambler and i bought his book and i think his stuff are good.
i'm just asking because in this world you can't trust anyone and to be onest receiving dvds,ticket etc for free sounds too much for me and i just want to understand |
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