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Warped Mindless
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| That whole report was a fancy way of telling you to be indirect. |
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JSolo
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| It's more the techniques he will use to keep it stealthy that i'm interested in. I don't necessarily think it will be a whole new method as he makes it out to be, but rather a useful tool that people can add to their game. Either way i think it's too early to say yet, can't wait till he releases more. |
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trixsta
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| Not as good as I expected. The nurse thing he gave was basically david deangelo. |
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He actually told me a few of the real techniques he uses in this recording of an interview I did with him a few weeks ago.
Here: [link]
I didn't even know he was working on the Stealth Attraction program. We're collaborating on a new project together so I clipped out the audio from that and posted it if you want to hear more. |
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BadolzoN
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| Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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| bradjackson wrote: | He actually told me a few of the real techniques he uses in this recording of an interview I did with him a few weeks ago.
Here: [link]
I didn't even know he was working on the Stealth Attraction program. We're collaborating on a new project together so I clipped out the audio from that and posted it if you want to hear more. |
Thank you!
Very informative.
Keep up the good work and I hope to see more from you and Gambler in the future.
And, yes, this was a fancy way of saying "be indirect" haha
A lot of instructors talk fluff (like 90%)
If you've watched any 21convention, they talk like 90% useless stuff, that's just nice to hear, and 10% I actually take away and is useful.
The better the instructor, the less fluff and more information (Adam Lyons for example, and Mystery) IMO |
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I'm on rafiels side on this one.
That exact font and highlighter technique, and, I'LL GIVE YOU IT ALL FREE! Marketing tech is rife on the net, mehow has used it, and plenty of online self defence courses use it.
I've spent 8 years in martial arts and the latter is usually just praying on insecurity and desperate hope.
I am not saying that is what gambler is doing.
But if their is a way to make me think your hypeing up something mediocre; then it will involve that marketing strategy of....
From the super secret lairs of..... will make you more......... all for free.... life-changing results....... I'm giving it to you personally..... revoloutionise...... the secrets which the experts don't want you to know...... all for free....... yes free.... just add your e-mail......
*average->poor fluff pamphlet sent*
.....Great news guys my book will be on sale.......
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But hey that marketing strategy must work, otherwise he wouldn't be using it. |
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BadolzoN
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| Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Fin wrote: | I'm on rafiels side on this one.
That exact font and highlighter technique, and, I'LL GIVE YOU IT ALL FREE! Marketing tech is rife on the net, mehow has used it, and plenty of online self defence courses use it.
I've spent 8 years in martial arts and the latter is usually just praying on insecurity and desperate hope.
I am not saying that is what gambler is doing.
But if their is a way to make me think your hypeing up something mediocre; then it will involve that marketing strategy of....
From the super secret lairs of..... will make you more......... all for free.... life-changing results....... I'm giving it to you personally..... revoloutionise...... the secrets which the experts don't want you to know...... all for free....... yes free.... just add your e-mail......
*average->poor fluff pamphlet sent*
.....Great news guys my book will be on sale.......
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But hey that marketing strategy must work, otherwise he wouldn't be using it. |
LOL
COULD NOT AGREE WITH YOU MORE.
I laughed so hard reading this because it's so true.
Funny because it's true.
It's as if all these PUAs stop giving us information but rely on their reknown to make fluff speeches that I, and anybody else, could do to get money out of people.
I can talk about PUA for literally probably 5-6 hours straight, psychology for days, just come up with stuff and observations etc.
Is what these speakers do - fluff.
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I think I must be missing something when i read it.... it just seems to be the indirect approach method with the word "stealth" put before everything!
But hey, it will work for lots of guys. It is tried tested and proven. |
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My opinion is that, beyond all the marketing BS, some people actually need this change and have new light shed on a somewhat used topic. My case, for instance, is that my inner game has been suffering lately for reasons unknown to me and it's very frustrating and damaging to your life and game. Then I see this ebook and start to apply some of these methods to the 'fresh' layer of my memory and it's way more beneficial than I could think.
So I download new music, get a haircut, and wake up tomorrow with a hypothetical STEALTH stamped on my mind. Now everything occurs in this fresh, new and exciting zone, which is where MY game operates the best.
Ya digg? |
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I read the report and have a little bit to say about it.
First, Gambler is right - rejection hurts. It's the main reason we fear the approach: being shut down in an embarrassing way, not knowing what to say, having an awkward moment, and ruining your chances with anyone watching you fuck up. But dealing with rejection is an important part of a pua's development. Telling yourself, as skywalker says, that "rejection is nothing as all girls are disposable!" is an essential internalization.
What kind of boyfriends/husbands/men will stealth method make out of people? I'm very interested in that, because pickup doesn't just change your odds with women, it can (and must) change your life. A method that skirts rejection also eliminates the need for a strong inner frame and inner game. I try to prove to myself daily that I can handle rejection, that it's nothing.
However, what actually excites me about Gambler's little write-up is that it is an answer to the paradox of opening. You want to DHV, communicate disinterest, etc. But by not approaching and opening in the traditional way, you can have all of the confidence in the world, but to your target, you're no different than the losers and AFCs who are too afraid to say anything. But byy approaching and opening, you give away some of your power and value to her, while simultaneously trying to convince her that YOU are better than HER. That is something that has always bothered me, but that I haven't read much commentary on until now.
So, the cliche marketing gimmick's aside, I think the rejection report is novel for that reason.
Some of you might think differently, and that's fine =) |
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| amazing! |
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Warped Mindless
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First, Gambler is right - rejection hurts. It's the main reason we fear the approach: being shut down in an embarrassing way, not knowing what to say, having an awkward moment, and ruining your chances with anyone watching you fuck up. But dealing with rejection is an important part of a pua's development. Telling yourself, as skywalker says, that "rejection is nothing as all girls are disposable!" is an essential internalization. |
I agree.
| Quote: | | However, what actually excites me about Gambler's little write-up is that it is an answer to the paradox of opening. You want to DHV, communicate disinterest, etc. But by not approaching and opening in the traditional way, you can have all of the confidence in the world, but to your target, you're no different than the losers and AFCs who are too afraid to say anything. But byy approaching and opening, you give away some of your power and value to her, while simultaneously trying to convince her that YOU are better than HER. That is something that has always bothered me, but that I haven't read much commentary on until now. |
Stop letting it bother you. Dont give a fuck about DHVing yourself. High value guys knows their high value, they dont worry about demonstrating it. Second, why communicate disinterest? A girl know sthat if your talking to her, you are interested in some level. Third, how do you give away power by just approaching and opening her? I'm the chooser. If I don't like her I walk away and give some other woman the lucky chance to be with me. I still have the power. Next, I'm not trying to convince that her that I'm better than her. My only focus is to have fun. I'm not out to prove anything.
Reframe stuff and it wont bother you.  |
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BadolzoN
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| Warped Mindless wrote: | | Quote: |
First, Gambler is right - rejection hurts. It's the main reason we fear the approach: being shut down in an embarrassing way, not knowing what to say, having an awkward moment, and ruining your chances with anyone watching you fuck up. But dealing with rejection is an important part of a pua's development. Telling yourself, as skywalker says, that "rejection is nothing as all girls are disposable!" is an essential internalization. |
I agree.
| Quote: | | However, what actually excites me about Gambler's little write-up is that it is an answer to the paradox of opening. You want to DHV, communicate disinterest, etc. But by not approaching and opening in the traditional way, you can have all of the confidence in the world, but to your target, you're no different than the losers and AFCs who are too afraid to say anything. But byy approaching and opening, you give away some of your power and value to her, while simultaneously trying to convince her that YOU are better than HER. That is something that has always bothered me, but that I haven't read much commentary on until now. |
Stop letting it bother you. Dont give a fuck about DHVing yourself. High value guys knows their high value, they dont worry about demonstrating it. Second, why communicate disinterest? A girl know sthat if your talking to her, you are interested in some level. Third, how do you give away power by just approaching and opening her? I'm the chooser. If I don't like her I walk away and give some other woman the lucky chance to be with me. I still have the power. Next, I'm not trying to convince that her that I'm better than her. My only focus is to have fun. I'm not out to prove anything.
Reframe stuff and it wont bother you. |
Everything you said completely goes against what PUA is.
You have no idea what you are talking about - instead, stop giving false information to the posters here, and, rather, learn something from people who know what they're talking about and THEN try to help people.
One of the worst things you can do is teach false information.
Not only does that set people back, but it's worst than if they had not known it all at!
1) You have to show her how good you are, if you're rich and nobody knows it - who cares?
2) Don't DIRECTLY say you're great, EMBED them into DHV spikes in stories or in speaking.
3) "If you're Alpha people will just know it" This is completely wrong, you somewhat convey Alphamale characteristics through actions and words.
4) If you convey disinterest, she'll want to convey interest more because she's fighting for you back. She may SUBCONCIOUSLY know you're interested in her, but if you show her conciously that you're not that
5) You're not trying to convey superiority - you just want to be the guy that makes her days better and you want to increase your value. Nobody should be BETTER than each other in a relationship - nobody wants to feel inferior.
6) On the contrary, when you approach a girl, your value is lowered. YOU HAD TO APPROACH HER, therefore you're lower value. This is why you're trying to gain attraction and value through stories.
Listen to any Mystery Method videos and you'll know what I'm talking about.
Now stop posting. |
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| BadolzoN wrote: | | Warped Mindless wrote: | | Quote: |
First, Gambler is right - rejection hurts. It's the main reason we fear the approach: being shut down in an embarrassing way, not knowing what to say, having an awkward moment, and ruining your chances with anyone watching you fuck up. But dealing with rejection is an important part of a pua's development. Telling yourself, as skywalker says, that "rejection is nothing as all girls are disposable!" is an essential internalization. |
I agree.
| Quote: | | However, what actually excites me about Gambler's little write-up is that it is an answer to the paradox of opening. You want to DHV, communicate disinterest, etc. But by not approaching and opening in the traditional way, you can have all of the confidence in the world, but to your target, you're no different than the losers and AFCs who are too afraid to say anything. But byy approaching and opening, you give away some of your power and value to her, while simultaneously trying to convince her that YOU are better than HER. That is something that has always bothered me, but that I haven't read much commentary on until now. |
Stop letting it bother you. Dont give a fuck about DHVing yourself. High value guys knows their high value, they dont worry about demonstrating it. Second, why communicate disinterest? A girl know sthat if your talking to her, you are interested in some level. Third, how do you give away power by just approaching and opening her? I'm the chooser. If I don't like her I walk away and give some other woman the lucky chance to be with me. I still have the power. Next, I'm not trying to convince that her that I'm better than her. My only focus is to have fun. I'm not out to prove anything.
Reframe stuff and it wont bother you. |
Everything you said completely goes against what PUA is.
You have no idea what you are talking about - instead, stop giving false information to the posters here, and, rather, learn something from people who know what they're talking about and THEN try to help people.
One of the worst things you can do is teach false information.
Not only does that set people back, but it's worst than if they had not known it all at!
1) You have to show her how good you are, if you're rich and nobody knows it - who cares?
2) Don't DIRECTLY say you're great, EMBED them into DHV spikes in stories or in speaking.
3) "If you're Alpha people will just know it" This is completely wrong, you somewhat convey Alphamale characteristics through actions and words.
4) If you convey disinterest, she'll want to convey interest more because she's fighting for you back. She may SUBCONCIOUSLY know you're interested in her, but if you show her conciously that you're not that
5) You're not trying to convey superiority - you just want to be the guy that makes her days better and you want to increase your value. Nobody should be BETTER than each other in a relationship - nobody wants to feel inferior.
6) On the contrary, when you approach a girl, your value is lowered. YOU HAD TO APPROACH HER, therefore you're lower value. This is why you're trying to gain attraction and value through stories.
Listen to any Mystery Method videos and you'll know what I'm talking about.
Now stop posting. |
You know that ego thread by Chief? You really need to read that. If you disagree with someone, present an alternative, which you just did but without attacking the poster. These forums are made up of great guys who like to challenge opinions without being offensive, something which you are not currently doing.
If you're as good at psychology as you say you are you should realise that what works for other people does not work for others. Most obvious eg, MM is not my style and doesn't work as well as other stuff. |
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Warped Mindless
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| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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| BadolzoN wrote: | | Warped Mindless wrote: | | Quote: |
First, Gambler is right - rejection hurts. It's the main reason we fear the approach: being shut down in an embarrassing way, not knowing what to say, having an awkward moment, and ruining your chances with anyone watching you fuck up. But dealing with rejection is an important part of a pua's development. Telling yourself, as skywalker says, that "rejection is nothing as all girls are disposable!" is an essential internalization. |
I agree.
| Quote: | | However, what actually excites me about Gambler's little write-up is that it is an answer to the paradox of opening. You want to DHV, communicate disinterest, etc. But by not approaching and opening in the traditional way, you can have all of the confidence in the world, but to your target, you're no different than the losers and AFCs who are too afraid to say anything. But byy approaching and opening, you give away some of your power and value to her, while simultaneously trying to convince her that YOU are better than HER. That is something that has always bothered me, but that I haven't read much commentary on until now. |
Stop letting it bother you. Dont give a fuck about DHVing yourself. High value guys knows their high value, they dont worry about demonstrating it. Second, why communicate disinterest? A girl know sthat if your talking to her, you are interested in some level. Third, how do you give away power by just approaching and opening her? I'm the chooser. If I don't like her I walk away and give some other woman the lucky chance to be with me. I still have the power. Next, I'm not trying to convince that her that I'm better than her. My only focus is to have fun. I'm not out to prove anything.
Reframe stuff and it wont bother you. |
Everything you said completely goes against what PUA is.
You have no idea what you are talking about - instead, stop giving false information to the posters here, and, rather, learn something from people who know what they're talking about and THEN try to help people.
One of the worst things you can do is teach false information.
Not only does that set people back, but it's worst than if they had not known it all at!
1) You have to show her how good you are, if you're rich and nobody knows it - who cares?
2) Don't DIRECTLY say you're great, EMBED them into DHV spikes in stories or in speaking.
3) "If you're Alpha people will just know it" This is completely wrong, you somewhat convey Alphamale characteristics through actions and words.
4) If you convey disinterest, she'll want to convey interest more because she's fighting for you back. She may SUBCONCIOUSLY know you're interested in her, but if you show her conciously that you're not that
5) You're not trying to convey superiority - you just want to be the guy that makes her days better and you want to increase your value. Nobody should be BETTER than each other in a relationship - nobody wants to feel inferior.
6) On the contrary, when you approach a girl, your value is lowered. YOU HAD TO APPROACH HER, therefore you're lower value. This is why you're trying to gain attraction and value through stories.
Listen to any Mystery Method videos and you'll know what I'm talking about.
Now stop posting. |
Lol, I love the whole "go learn MM" line. I know MM, and could probably recite you the book word for word. I used to use it a long, long time ago. The tips I posted (that you so ignorantly bashed) has worked out better for me than MM ever did. Guess what? They have worked out for all of my students too. I invite you to come take a free bootcamp with me if you like, it would be fun to meet another person from this forum. PM me for details and I'll fit ya into one of my upcoming classes. Your stuck on some bad mindsets man and I want to help you. |
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