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Impact
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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He was the most authentic, genuine and not to mention flawless PUA


Documentaries, especially BBC documentaries are not allowed to be bias to sides, but rather give the equal truth as it is with its shape and feel of the story presented. If it was my reputation as Impact to go out there with the BBC hanging off my shoulder, I would be pressing them to depict my life as accurately as they can, and especially that of the community, simply because I value everything we are all doing here as a whole.

Humans are inherently flawed creatures, to expose the truth about us and our actions is a far greater goal and achievement then to hide them and pride ourselves on superficial means. To imply we are flawless is often a sign of a delusional mind!

As a PUA I can read "behind the lines" in every interaction, if a producer had told me to say lines or he wont feature me on a documentary, id tell him that I hold the credibility of the community which I respect very deer, and I further hold very high respect for my achievement through which I instruct others today. I cant let that respect and trust go, and for me to say his lines would be going against everything I had learned. If that means no documentary, then so be it.

He’s basically saying “Jump doggy or you won’t get the treat” I can see that so clearly, would a flawless PUA jump through that hoop? or any hoop so willingly? I don’t know about that..

Lets just show things as they are, learn from them, and learn from ourselves, lets all drop the bullshit and gain value and respect from what we have.

Then again all of this can be very easily countered if AFC Adam replied to this post, he could have had ulterior reasons for accepting this, for fame or exposing the community, I personally haven’t had the pleasure of talking to him, so I can’t confirm or deny anything. All I can do is pose a ulterior argument.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've read a couple of places that this was labeled wrongly, and that it wasn't a BBC documentary and it does not have BBC anywhere on it. I tried to find out of that was true, but couldn't. But that's besides the point.

BBC has been blasted for bias on religion and Jews in the past. I'd be curious to hear AFC Adam's comments of it as well.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Realz wrote:
I dont think Adam looked bad on it at all,
but they other two guys came off as creepy
especially the one with the hair.

and
Is Adam still dating that girl?


When I saw him a few months back, she was there too.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its not BBC as it was on 4OD (channel 4's on demand thing) for the americans the bbc has strict guidelines so has to be fair ch4 only have very basic rules to follow and make all their money from advertising. So sway more towards sensationalist programming, with crap like "9/11 why it was the -insert racial minority-".

Good channel, biased programming.

As for the documentary I think it was quite good apart from the odd lines thrown in for effect, like the one that implied there is some kind of rule against having a girlfriend. Also do you think that girl really had a picture of I am the future next to her bed?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Realz wrote:
I dont think Adam looked bad on it at all,
but they other two guys came off as creepy
especially the one with the hair.

and
Is Adam still dating that girl?


Yeah he's still with her but it definately doesnt take away from his skill or what he brings to the community.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jaybot wrote:
Its not BBC as it was on 4OD (channel 4's on demand thing) for the americans the bbc has strict guidelines so has to be fair ch4 only have very basic rules to follow and make all their money from advertising. So sway more towards sensationalist programming, with crap like "9/11 why it was the -insert racial minority-".

Good channel, biased programming.

As for the documentary I think it was quite good apart from the odd lines thrown in for effect, like the one that implied there is some kind of rule against having a girlfriend. Also do you think that girl really had a picture of I am the future next to her bed?


you say they tend towards sensationalist programming then make the leap that therefore all their programming is biased.

They've had some misguided ones ("the great global warming swindle") and many great ones (see the james randi or richard dawkins ones). The emphasis is on entertainment but the BBC has definately had it's biased shows.

As for the show, i can tell you that Ian has told me that nothing was staged it was a true representation of his skills.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LatinLover101 wrote:
Realz wrote:
I dont think Adam looked bad on it at all,
but they other two guys came off as creepy
especially the one with the hair.

and
Is Adam still dating that girl?


Yeah he's still with her but it definately doesnt take away from his skill or what he brings to the community.


Haha I was just wondering because she was REALLY hott and seemed
equally cool
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i just hope people don't watch this and assume they know all the facts. that's mostly why i'm here. i watched this and i wanted to do more research. just irks me when people take one side and think they know the whole story.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gilf wrote:
It's nothing to do with the BBC but good nonetheless.

I'm friends with Ian, he's a member of my lair but hes just as bad now as he was when he did this


Interesting, was that as a result of sub standard training or another reason? How did he feel with hindsight how they portrayed him. Particularly the "roofie" (rohypnol) line.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 8:49 am    Post subject: screw the video Reply with quote

Guys. who cares about that damn video. Pick up first started because guys wanted to defy the odds and get the girl. Wink , and whatever that video shows fUck it. i dont like the notion's conveyed by the documentaries from BBC anyway. they are all dry boring, and SCARY. if you dont believe me, look at 'you are what you eat' !! that shit scared the hell out of me in some episodes. media thrives on keeping us entertained. scaring us is part of it i guess.

i came to learn about PU because i want the girl. At the end of the day i still do my home work and i still hang out with my friends.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Derren guy dresses like Russell Brand. He has the same hair as well. It looks like he's coping Russell Brand.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is the shitttt son.

Touch my elbow and let's get hot.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

both those dudes were super creepy. AFC adam looks great as usual.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting. Been a ten minute clip on YouTube for ages. Nice to see the full thing.

As for the dark side of it all, focusing all your life around pick up is not going to lead to lead to something good. If your whole life revolves around fucking and using girls, I'd call that unfulfilling shows the kind of prick you are.

I like to think personally I have more to my life than just girls and I do anyway. As I said before this was one aspect of my life I wanted handled, but I have other interests such as art, music, reading and general self improvement.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Solid vid .
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