how much does the mystery method work

bluethunder371

hey guys im pretty new to this so im like an rafc, and i havent really sarged in real life anywhere. that being said, i was wondering how much this works, like what percentage of the time can u guys number close. (im in highschool so im not looking to fclose or kclose). and what percentage of girls are just like "fuck u loser." or something like that.
thanks

Blues · Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 2:20 am Post subject:

Mystery Method is tried and true, and if you look at naturals who have never even looked at it chances are they follow pretty close to the M3 model without even realizing it.

The skill level on this forum varies quite a bit, but even the people with the most basic knowledge of MM will do better than they did pre-PUA.

If delivered right you shouldn't be offending your targets to the point where they are the ones ejecting. Either you were negging too harshly, you were incongruent or something else went wrong in your delivery.

burtcocaine · Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 7:23 am Post subject:

i was skeptical too man, so maybe my experience will help you out.

a buddy of mine showed me the book "the game", and i didn't believe it, and he never tried it out either, but im a pretty outgoing guy, so i decided to field test it.

i copied one of mystery's routines (and whole pickup) exactly. (which i dont recommend doing, because things are situational, and this may have been blind luck) but i ran through it, and was making out with this girl 15 minutes after meeting her, and she was about an HB8.

i was sold.

do a little research, then try it. find out for yourself.

Sensual · Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 4:21 pm Post subject:

This method is really gr8 because you can always escape from title "being boring"

kodierer · Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:58 pm Post subject:

Watch those geeks on his VH1 show get play, and you'll believe it.

Heres my experience with it. I've been able to recapture interest from both ex-girlfriends, and get interest from girls who had once put me in the friend zone.
I notice if I sarge 4 women one will give me a number, and the other 3 will at least have a good conversation with me. I feel as if I am never really rejected though.

Example if I run an opener on a girl, make her laugh, then neg her. I can then proceed to run a routine, and after a routine is run. I can get a conversation going, and make an effort to relate and comfort.
If you forget to neg, then you never make it to routine with some girls, because the neg destroys the bitch shield. Some girls are nicer/more interested than others to begin with.
If you fail to open with a time constraint, they may never allow you to open, or if your body language is wrong you can blow yourself right out of the set. So for me a lot of it is checking my body language, remembering a time constraint to start to start.

You would be surprised how rude you can be when you neg and have it work. I put on my sunglasses where one lens had broke and told a girl I could now only be in half the matrix. She said those aren't matrix sunglasses, and I said they were too, because if they had those massive rows of guns, then they probably had massive rows of sunglasses too. She said so what are my aviators matrix sunglasses? I said yes, but no one had the bad taste to choose them. She threw her pack of cigarettes at me, and I said ooh thanks. Then teased her with them in a playful way.

M.

Ezoghoul · Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 5:32 pm Post subject:

Err. No, I disagree...

Mystery method... it works man!

I open sets easily, not just reciting an opener but know how to. I havent crashed and burned in 6 months and I open every single set without any problems. I have a #-close frequency of about 30% and in almost all sets, I manage to build attraction.

It does not always work but it gives you a huge advantage over the AFCs.

Lets just make a poll of this...

Ezo

thatkidej · Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 1:02 am Post subject:

It works, but so does every other method. I liked reading "The Game" more than MM, just because it's more in story form and there are concepts to pick up from it. MM is more like a play-by-play, although it's still a cool book. I haven't quite finished it yet, but I will soon!

Chris Badass · Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 6:09 am Post subject:

MM is all about the structure and science of attraction so it helps a lot for the guy who can actually internalize all of it into daily life but if your not so much of a book nerd it can be a bit daunting so if your more into something in the normal venacular try reading a juggler book, I would suggest reading MM first for a more technical base for your game and to fill in the holes it may leave with a juggler book. I did and it definately helps out if you read both MM and Juggler method.

Captain Tightpants · Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 6:21 am Post subject:

What is a good Juggler book for me to check out? Because I've been reading the MM handbook and it's been a bit daunting for me because of those exact reasons you've specified.

KevinS · Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 7:03 pm Post subject:

MM from what i hear is the most powerful system out there.

MM can be used to pull stripers and really hot women. I saw a guy open a group of girls last night with

"Who lies more"

Despite this being used so many times he got the group of girls interested and negged the target and within 15 minutes he was kissing the hot girl.

So I think that MM is very powerful

FreeLife · Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 7:47 pm Post subject:

It is my opinion that MM makes you think to much. You don't need all that theory and structure in order to get good with women. In fact if you are thinking to much when you are in a set instead of just being in the moment it is just another form of acceptance-seeking. When you use routines and etc. then you aren't presenting your own personality and that also damages your game.

If you want to have a more natural style that is more fit for different situations then read some Juggler. "How to be a pick up artist" by Juggler/Wayne Elise is quite good because it gives you the basics and presents a good philosophy.

The Libertine · Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 1:33 pm Post subject:

I'd read other books like Robert Greens the Art of Seduction, that really helped me generate interest but I never got any further then that.
I then read the Venusian Arts Handbook (the first real modern PUA book I ever came accross) and I f-closed the first night I went out after reading it. THE FIRST TIME I EVER SARGED!
Which also happned to be "my first time"...
after I got into the MM I never looked back.

Anticipation · Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 2:15 pm Post subject:

many methods work but it seems that the mystry method is the easiest one to learn i think.

Ezoghoul · Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:40 am Post subject:

Art of seduction did not really give me much...

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