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Carlos
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 Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 5:57 am Post subject: XFman's Ring Routine |
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I found this in an ancient thread with a lot of other drama in it, so I'm giving it its own thread. Now I'm curious about peoples' thoughts on this routine:
Have you tried it?
How did it work?
Do you think it's good/bad?
For what reason?
Are these reasons based on your intuition, expert advice, or personal experience?
Which expert's advice or personal experience are you deriving this from?
Personally, I have no experience and am afraid it's too long. I really like it though, but I'm wondering if maybe I should shorten it and only tell her about the fingers she wears her rings on. Thoughts?
Thanks in advance.
| xfman wrote: | Ok here it goes :
Notice a gleam of metal on her fingers (a ring) and ask “I have to ask before I go with my friends:
*Why did you chose to wear that ring on that particular finger….interesting…..do you always wear those rings on the same fingers?” (Most of the time they were one or two fingers but in the same fingers , because is the finger where the ring fits.)
Option one: (if she is wearing a ring.)
“I have a friend named Nicole who is the spiritual type of girl and she was telling me that the finger you choose to wear your rings on says something about your personality.”
Option two: (If she isn’t wearing any rings.)
“I notice you aren’t wearing any rings, that’s unusual for a woman (neg). -Oh thats because... Okay so when you use any ring in wich finger you use it ? -answer- Oh...“I have a friend named Nicole..."
“Each one of these mounds (the pads on the palm where the finger joins the hand) is represented by a different god and in Greek culture you wear a ring on that finger to praise that particular god, to pay homage to that particular god.
For example the thumb represents POSEIDON (Neptune) which as you will know is the god of the sea and he was very independent. He was the only god that didn’t live on mount Olympus, he did his own thing. And the thumb kind of sticks out, it kind of does its own thing. People that wear thumb rings are therefore very individual and independent and generally do their own thing. They don’t follow trends preferring instead to set their own.
The index finger is represented by ZEUS (Jupiter) Zeus was the king of all gods, and the God of Thunder and Lightning. That’s a very dominant finger, and having a ring there means you tend to be a more dominant person. Wave your index finger at them like “no no no” or “don’t do that”. It represents power and immense energy.
Your middle finger is represented by DIONYSUS (Bacchus) which is the god of wine and partying and is a very irreverent god – So if you have a ring there you tend to do what ever you want and are less sensitive about what others think. You then lift your middle finger up on its own and give the bird and say “its like fuck you to the world”. When they are wearing a ring they always laugh at this remark.
Your ring finger is of course represented by APHRODITE (Venus). She is the goddess of love and that is why we wear our wedding rings on that finger. You can give all sorts of “you are looking for romance” type lines “when you fall for someone you tend to fall completely for them” type lines. You can add that interestingly it’s the only finger that has a vein that goes straight to your heart without branching of and so putting a ring on that finger is actually making a direct connection with your heart. If she is comfortable you Kino from her finger up her arm.
The pinky is represented by ARES (Mars) who is the God of war and that’s why you see mobsters wearing pinky rings, it’s a kinda like hidden violence. It represents conflict so if she is wearing one say “did you buy that yourself or did someone give it to you?”. So if she bought it herself it means she is kind of at war with herself, she has some inner conflict, maybe an emotional conflict or something she is not comfortable with herself about. If she was given it then ask by whom and make up some conflict line about having some tension which may be below the surface between the two of you, some unresolved problem that you just haven’t solved etc.
If she has a ring on her wedding finger say “is that an engagement ring or do you just wear that to keep the womanisers away?”
This can be used in comfort although I usually use it in A1 - almost immediately after the opener. Its a great way to start to rock out of the set at the end of the opener, then "notice" the ring and transition into the routine.
Credit to: Style
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xfman
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| Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 1:16 am Post subject: |
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 This is not my routine, but thanks anyway 
The Ring routine was created by Style, not me.
In the other hand answering your questions about it...
I think it is a great routine, but use it on the comfort phase. I had used this routine long time ago and it worked perfect just before isolating a girl, you get some kino and you can get more when talking about the Venus/love finger , following your touch from the (4th)*Ring Finger to the shoulder and a little bit of chest.
In the other hand it maybe over used because it is a canned material from the second generation... (I think I'm going to establish a division from the PUA generations in another post.)
I always used the routine as written by Style and it worked perfectly if you have the time use it as written. |
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| Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 1:23 am Post subject: |
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I used it the other day. But I knew the girls personality before hand so I caterd the reading to what I knew about her. I threw in my own spin about a girl with 2+ rings having conflict in their personality.
Ex. The girl I did it on Had a ring on her middle and ring fing (Right hand). I concluded she had an internal conflict still bearing on her between her love life and her independance. But I knew she had recently broken up with her LTR B/f. Prior to the test she said it was probably bullshit(failure on my inner game presentation) but by the end she was quite interested enough to DHV me.
So would I use it again? Hell yes, but I have a bunch of cold reading routines memorized so I'm not dependant on it. |
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| Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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| that is amazing i wonder if any of that is true or if its all bullshit |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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| wow this shit got me interested so i guess its some what good. HAHA good post. i will use this |
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Sal L.
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| Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 3:02 am Post subject: |
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| that actually seems like it would work pretty well. I'm gonna need to try it out if I can remember everything. |
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| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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sparknotes to remember:
Thumb - Independent
Pointer - Power
Middle - Partying
Ring - Love
Pinky - Conflict |
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| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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If I've never heard it, it's new to me. 
Granted I haven't used it yet, I like this routine. I can see
myself telling this stuff to a woman.
I don't think you have to be right on the money as far as
cold reading her either. Tell it as a story as opposed to a
reading and if certain things ring true, than all the better.
You can play it up.
Using mnemonic devices to remember which finger goes
to which trait (i.e. The thumb being the independent finger)
it's pretty easy to remember. All you have to do is brush
up on your Greek/Roman Mythology and learn to ad lib a
little and you're set.
Thanks for finding and reposting. |
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i tried this tonight but a simplified version. it was at a house party and it went over ok, i think i could have done better, but keeping this girls attention was difficult i may have used it to early in the game. some dude also fell on the floor mid story making it difficult to continue.
all in all no number, i had to dip out because the cops came. my afc self should have tried to isolate her when she kept moving in to hear me, or talk to me because of the noise, i should have moved her to a quieter spot. one thing i did notice though was the amount of time i spent with the girl i tried this on, made a few other girls jealous enough to come up to me or try and get my attention.
tonight was officially my first night out trying to sarge, no wingman, just myself meeting people at a house party i knew maybe 5 out a the 50 guests at, it was no doubt intimidating. i did get to try a few decent openers, and i have a great ability to remember names so when i saw people multiple times during the night, calling them by name also leaves a good impression
sorry to drop a field report like this in the middle of a post, but i also met up with a friends ex girlfriend, she is smokin 10 easily, they never really clicked, she was more of his trophy or so he says, i opened her friend and said to her, and whos this? to get the girls name. i wasnt thinking i should have said, where are your manners, introduce me to your friend! or something of the sort. once i got her name she gladly included that she used to date my friend, i said, ohhhhh ive heard alot about you! total neg, i could see her reaching for things to say and feel about it, so i came back with, hey come on now, whats with the face, there were plenty of good things and that it was a pleasure to meet her.
the biggest problem i am facing right now is what to say to people not only as openers, but to keep the conversation going, there is always the what do you do where are you from bullshit, but thats not what i want to talk about, i want to be able to leave a lasting enough impression that other guys don't.
back to the lab tomorrow night, if this girl i did the ring thing to isn't around ill be sure to try it out another time. hopefully with someone i can isolate to a better spot.
THIS SHIT IS AWESOME THANK GOD FOR THIS FORUM |
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| Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 10:16 am Post subject: |
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| used this again tonight, simplified, but i involved both girls i was talking to, it worked great for stealing the spot light and getting everyone interested. excellent routine! |
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| Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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If it was your first night out, and you were able to even just do an opener, that's great. Try not to have major goals, like getting a number.
This stuff takes time. Work on each part of the game, and before you know it, your game will get better and better.
Most of the AFC's I know start out just trying to do openers. After they open, or when they run out of material, they say "thanks" and move on.
Once they get comfortable opening, then they'll try to add stacking routines, and building attraction...
And so on.
You want to avoid doing the "where are you from BS, because those are more comfort questions..
You need to build routines that DHV. I know people like the "canned" routines, but I think creating your own is better because they come off more "real". If you're reciting the standard routine, you run into a couple of problems.
First, you risk the material coming off as being fake and rehearsed.
Second, you run the risk of doing a routine that someone else has already done on that target.
Read The Game and The Mystery Method a COUPLE of times. Highlight the key elements needed in a story that DHV's.
After you do an opener, a great lead in to a story is:
You know, you remind me of someone I once knew.... Then go into that story.. something funny, something exciting, something that DHV's you without coming across like you're bragging. |
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| Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 3:15 am Post subject: It doesn't work |
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| Im a girl, someone said this to me today. He traced he finger all the way up the arm to my chest. Everyone told me it was a pick up line so I looked it up. I feel violated and pissed off that I was tricked. Girls are smarter than you think, pick up lines dont work. This is the stupidest thing ever. |
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